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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0what about super dopper rader systems that the weather people use.
time for everyone to wear a tin foil hat.
no digg headline saids more than the link. - MODERATOR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0RFIDs are used for a lot you guys. Does anybody here go to ASU? RFID is used for EVERRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYTHING here..
and guess what....they don't use any encryption schemes! :-D!
/served. - b0rkb0rkb0rk0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hi Janice - i suggest you edit your post to add a link to Prof. Shamir's talk itself:
http://media.omediaweb.com/rsa2006/1_5/1_5_High.asx
He starts on at 6:15, but the entire hour is very interesting! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Interesting idea, creating a unique hash for each person based on their posessions and clothing. How many pair of jeans do you own? Anonymity = clothes-horse and your posessions end up owning you anyway.
Personally, I like the idea of muggers with RFID scanners pre-screening their marks... and interm idea that will exist before we go completely cashless. - schwit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The rfid readers that are on every street corner that can scan the tags in everybody's clothing or on their cars. A database cross references the codes with who bought the product. Voila, people tracking.
- AnimeRules15421, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0(sarcastically): Oh joy more technology G.W.Bush can use to spy on us! Oh wait he's not spying he's "locating" his "terrorist's." Well wake up! If anyone is it's Dick Channey He's going to take us all "hunting." and "accidentally" shoot us.
- chicagobiker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I still dont understand what the big fuss is about RFID security. I mean who cares if someone knows that you just bought milk and eggs or that you are carrying around the latest Playboy. "
Umm, do you have your Mobil *SpeedPass* on your key chain? How 'bout your Mass Transit Monthly fare card (at least in Chicago). Both which have your Name, Address and Phone and account number and maybe your e-mail address.
How many of these tags are on the inside of really portable expensive items in your home or apartment (TV, Stereo, iPod, Computer) and how many *modified* readers are thief's in your neighborhood driving around with aiming at your doors and windows to see which house/apartment to hit next? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Solution: (... kind of) http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/208/48/
- jumjum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0RFID is a really good tech. Unfortunately, people are evil.
- anthony1124, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Also, the SpeedPass gas got to be linked to your social sec. #.
Which means
+ID Theft - chicagobiker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh yeah, and to add to the ASU guy - how many hot chicks at High Schools and Colleges have their Name, Address and Phone number embedded in their RFID school ID card that you can read out of their purse by just walking by them or with an amplified reader from across the street?
- D43PAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I do'nt understand why people want to have their everymove traced. The negatives here far outweigh the positives.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Solution: (... kind of) http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/208/48/
- sofa0ne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I still don't understand what the big fuss is about RFID security. I mean who cares if someone knows that you just bought milk and eggs or that you are carrying around the latest Playboy. What could be tagged with RFID that people would so desperately need to keep private? I think that people are wrapped a little bit tightly around the issue. Very nice technique is detailed in the article though :)!"
The big fuss isn't about how RFID is currently going to be used but it's potential.
I am not one of the foil hat wearing people but I think it's important that people discover the weaknesses of these systems before installing something in a store that a cell phone could dupe.
From a store owners point of view this would be an issue.
There has also been talk of putting them in passports not exactly your playboy or milk but a the idea of a cell phone being able to screw with it kinda makes it a big deal... - ghorsey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"So if I buy some jeans for my teenage daughter, this becomes part of MY rfid profile? Seems kinda flawed since not everything you buy is for yourself. I'm more concerned about the ID theft if it can be exploited more easily through this technology. Guess I will need to read up on this some more."
This is where you begin the possibility of tracking relationships. For example assume your daughter purchased shoes for herself on her atm, your wife bought her shirt on her cc, you purchased her pants and she's wearing a necklace from her boyfriend. Now as soon as she walks into WalMart (largest pusher for RFID tags in retail) and is scanned, all these relationships can be assumed. As more data is gathered (thanks ChoicePoint - www.choicepoint.com) the assumptions will become more and more accurate. - bobbywan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So many big words....
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I want a proof of concept..for testing purposes.. > : )
- MondoMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So if I buy some jeans for my teenage daughter, this becomes part of MY rfid profile? Seems kinda flawed since not everything you buy is for yourself. I'm more concerned about the ID theft if it can be exploited more easily through this technology. Guess I will need to read up on this some more.
- dwhitbeck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Who is pushing for 5 cent RFID tags? Walmart.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> As more data is gathered (thanks ChoicePoint - www.choicepoint.com)
> the assumptions will become more and more accurate.
...or more delusional.
I live in a country where it is impossible for me to get a loan and my credit rating is so poor in my "home" country that even my mother would laugh at me if I were to ask for a loan.
...still, you would have a extremely hard time convencing the person that I brought my house from that I'm a credit risk.
> "So if I buy some jeans for my teenage daughter, this becomes
> part of MY rfid profile?
No, it becomes an entry point by which she can be tracked.... I assume that she's the type of girl the wears cloths when she buys things. - BlackFlag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0And they want to put these RFID tags in our passports?
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/11/5/5010/82876 - sstidman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Corporations want RFID tags so they can streamline their inventory checks. Supermarkets want them so they can have instant checkouts. That's all fine, but I think they could get around all the fuss if they didn't attempt to hide the RFID tags. If they were easily removed and attached to bright orange stickers then everybody would be happy. I think, though, that stores see these as part of a theft deterrent, also, so that's why they want to hide them. Hiding the tags is what causes all the alarm.
As far as using RFID tags to keep track of people, that is mostly a lame argument. I say that because most of us already carry around a device that is able to transmit a unique id more than a mile. That device is our cell phones. I also carry around a two way pager, another device that could be used to track my movements. Using triangulation, those devices could track our movements from miles away. Not true with RFID tags, which only transmit a few feet. If the gummint or someone else wants to track our movements, we've already given them what they need to do it, so that concern about RFID tags doesn't hold water. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you see an RFID, kill it.
- sporkwitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0On top of all these uses, they're also used for security. RFID tags used as security checks in offices and other secure buildings. You can even buy RFID locks for your home. I dunno about you, but I know a few people I'd like to NOT be able to use their cell phone as a key to my house or the door to the gun-safe at the local factory.....
- jfelectron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I still dont understand what the big fuss is about RFID security. I mean who cares if someone knows that you just bought milk and eggs or that you are carrying around the latest Playboy. What could be tagged with RFID that people would so desperately need to keep private? I think that people are wrappedd a little bit tightly around the issue. Very nice technique is detailed in the article though :)!
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