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- eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -7/+155A female hacker with a sense of humour? Marry me.
- Muzical84, on 10/12/2007, -5/+82I'd be surprised if it didn't have some bugs, really. I'd also rather see this stuff found and fixed NOW before it's on many computers.
- zonk3r, on 10/12/2007, -3/+70Sorry for the retardedly long URL's...
Here's some pix of her:
http://photos.hackinthebox.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=HITBSecConf2005-Malaysia-Post-Conf-Party&id=DSC_0013
http://photos.hackinthebox.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=HITBSecConf2005-Malaysia-Post-Conf-Party&id=DSC_0014
http://photos.hackinthebox.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=HITBSecConf2005-Malaysia-Post-Conf-Party&id=DSC_0017
and here's a picture of Ubuntu Linux install disc porn:
http://photos.hackinthebox.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=HITBSecConf2005-Malaysia-Post-Conf-Party&id=DSCN1687 - norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+66Everything is hackable.
- trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -11/+65"A female hacker with a sense of humour? Marry me."
And don't forget she is actually cute too. - daveddd, on 10/12/2007, -10/+63thumb wrestle you for the chance to marry her
- drewman77, on 10/12/2007, -11/+58Windows was hacked today. In other news, water is wet and Jessica Alba - still hot!
- scott1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37"Remember mission impossible?"
I'm not worried about scientologist hacking into my computer. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31quote "I'm quite confident that you can't hack this without some sort of hardware alteration:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/TI-30X_IIS.jpg" /quote
types 5318008
turns upside down.
Ha, porn. All your calc are belong to me!
www.ticalc.org - scott1, on 10/12/2007, -13/+39Expect if your comptur has no internet acces and you keep in a vault all the time.
- lunchbox170, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26*Expect if your comptur has no internet acces and you keep in a vault all the time.*
Remember mission impossible? - hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23does your keyboard have a period key by any chance?
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+29No, that is not true. Security is a process, not a state. Vista will definitely improve on some of Microsoft's previous poor design decisions, but it will not change the company itself. Microsoft has not shown that they are willing to improve the process with which they handle software security. They have clearly shown that they hide bugs, lie about bugs, fail to fix bugs, release incorrect patches, hold back patches, don't take bugs seriously, and implement design choices that have no hope of being secure.
OpenBSD has the security process just about right and everybody else is well behind them. - benshariff, on 10/12/2007, -10/+29Cool, "Microsoft spent a whole day "
Nice effort
/sarc - pcheaven2k, on 10/12/2007, -35/+51You guys are ***** morons....
1.) Microsoft does this so people THINK IT IS SECURE when it hits the market.
2.) But NO BLACKHAT HACKER ON EARTH is going to show MICROSOFT everything....PERIOD!
Which means that the REAL SECURITY FLAWS will still go undiscovered by MS and unpatched and when it is released the BLACK HAT HACKERS will still have CONTROL OF YOUR *****! - Cerberus047, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23Ok someone please explain... I thought black hat hackers were the bad ones and the white hats are the ones you higher to see if your software is secure???
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16They're white hat. The Conference is called Black Hat. God, Why does this ***** have +28? I guess Caps Lock is cruise control for cool.
- SniperX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Give Microsoft props for coming out and inviting hackers to pen test their product though. It's win-win, they either prove their claims, or find their holes, and, hopefully, fix them.
Good effort in the very least. - masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21I'm quite confident that you can't hack this without some sort of hardware alteration:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/TI-30X_IIS.jpg - Serinox, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18just ruin the dream why don't you...
- smtelegadis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18I don't think any one is "knocking" MS for trying to be more secure.
What we're knocking is that for a company worth roughly 44.28 Billion USD you would think they would have a better product. - duke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Joanna Rootkitska!
- maximinus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I seriously can't read this comment. It's full of the atrocity "ppl" and other "txt-spk" - which makes it completely unreadable. I don't have the patience to sit here and decipher this crap in order to determine whether there is actually a valid point amongst it all.
- maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11OS and web hacking are two different beasts, she may know her way inside and out of th e SDK of windows. But she may not know squat about HTML, javascript, SQL, and the other exploitable webcode.
- Wang, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12We all know Vista won't have perfect security (hey...what OS does??)....but I for one am not going to knock Microsoft when they are moving in the right direction (i.e. adding more security features, and thinking about security).
Thumbs up MS. - weareglass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I think the important lesson to take from this is to use the Wait-and-see™ approach with MS' claims of security. Sure the company says that it's fixed up its OS security, but the only way to know is to go six months down the line and see if anything has really changed measurably. And certainly the fact that some of the holes MS claimed to have plugged are still in some manner open well before the OS' release leads me to think this will not be the last vulnerability we hear about.
Bottom line, no matter how much effort is put into making improvements, this is still an OS so stuffed full of bloat and legacy code that it's going to take a miracle for it to be anything approaching secure. For all our sakes I hope they pull it off. - verifex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10It seems like all this craze about virtualization with everything is going to start biting people in the ass.
- Magadass, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Shakin,
Please learn the truth before you post random thoughts from your head! First off Microsoft has completely restructured their code review procedures, all code must pass a thorough security check, also the security team doing these checks has a high power of authority and can delay a product if the security checks do not pass. On top of that Microsoft has implemented ALL industry standard security practices for coding, in addition they are holding security conferences twice a year to keep developers up to date. To add even further they have hired some of the leading security experts in the world to help them secure their software!
So why is it still insecure? Because they are the largest software maker on the planet, they have more lines of code than most software companies combined. They have some of the oldest code bases in existence, Microsoft Office is written in C, not C++ but C!! Its not feasible to rewrite it, would cost to much money and would take to long! So they are attempting to secure this system the best they can and port it piece by piece over to c++! First off this is good news, this is MUCH better than it was in previous years, and the attacks are much much harder to do now! Obviously there is still a great deal of things needed but then again thats why they hold these conferences, outside the box thinking that hackers do is hard to protect against, its like trying to imagine every single venue of attack from nearly 100,000 entry points. - TeMerc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Here some content the Internet News didn't report:
As corporate vice president for Microsoft's STU (Security Technology Unit), it is Fathi's responsibility to deliver on Vista's security promise, and Rutkowska's claim—complete with live demo—that a key anti-rootkit feature can be easily defeated could be a public relations nightmare.
But Fathi was unperturbed. Almost unnoticed in the crowd, he paid close attention to Rutkowska's slides and didn't even flinch when the room erupted in applause as the demo succeeded in loading unsigned code into Vista Beta 2 kernel (x64), without requiring a reboot.
"This is the reason we're here. To see the advancements in research and work closely with these guys [white hat hackers] to figure out what's working and what's not working," Fathi said in an interview with eWEEK immediately after the presentation.
"We've already fixed that path [of attack] … It's beta software that will have bugs. That [attack scenario] has already been fixed in later builds," Fathi said.
Link:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1999241,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K0000614
Whether or not this is actually true is another thing entirely. - pbjorge12, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Could you explain to me what the difference is between OpenBSD's security implementation and other Operating Systems?
I checked in google but I couldn't find anything of use... - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10So just because it looks like XP and feels like XP, it must be XP. Sounds like some sound logic, if you had any way of making proof to your claim which you don't. Because you haven't seen the source code, you can't compare the XP ntdll.dll file to the Vista ntdll.dll file. So, you can stop with the "speculative" ***** and give it up, because i can't prove it's new and you can't prove it's old. So, do yourself a favor and give it up.
And if it's any consolation to my arguement, the XP windows folder is ~2.5GB, vista is 6.5GB+, now, you tell me that 4GB of extra data is "just a patch". - wisedude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11This is good. Now Microsoft has a list of more glitches to fix, which means a more secure final product.
- Obsidian743, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Magadass is correct. All the bandwagon Microsoft bashers obviously have no clue what kind of task it is to maintaing THE de facto operating system of the world in which pretty much all the de facto software run. Of course it's going to be time consuming. Of course they're not going to advertise certain bugs to the known world on a proprietary product. Of course ***** is going to break. Of course more ***** will be found because it sticks out like a sore thumb.
- WiskyDrinker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Check out Episode #50 of Security Now - ' Vista's Virgin Stack '
http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm
According to Steve Gibson, It's impossible that Vista will be secure... - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14@zemkacz
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say you're drunk, brain damaged, or can't speak english, all which make you a detriment to this planet, kill yourself. - proidiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Cerberus047:
in this case, "Black Hat" is referring to the security conference that happens right before DefCon - lunchbox170, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Did you guys even read the article?
"Joanna Rutkowska, a security researcher with security firm Coseinc, spent a day picking it apart."
Yeah, I am sure she is not going to tell MS everything, because a respectable security researcher from the security firm Coseinc is always up to no good.
Honestly, come on...have some fath. - Robyr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8You are not a hacker, please shut the hell up. At worst you are just a wannabe, below even the likes of script kiddies, and at best your a follower using binaries you found on some "HAX 4 WINDOWS!!!!1!1" site. Get lost man, the computing world doesn't need more of you.
- zonk3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Obviously the next concern is to build in better security to the virtualization framework to keep track of what's going on at that level. Of course for every new trap there's a smarter mouse waiting...
- websurfer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I'm working for a company that's not paying enough for my hard work. I didn't tell them about every vulnerability so I may use this knowledge later if I don't like the boss.
- Wang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Better in what way? Every OS has had serious flaws, and Microsoft in some ways has the toughest job of all (the most scenarios/customers to support, the most applications to support, the most backwards compatibility to maintain). I think they've done a pretty good job overall.....lets be honest, it could be FAR worse ;)
- EvolvedAnt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6As if a cute intelligent girl who can hack would ever have a problem getting into any of our systems.. What average digger here would stop her from getting into their system? Honestly now...
- deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"worth roughly 44.28 Billion USD"
Add a 2 in front of the 44. - Dotnetsky, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9It's good to see Microsoft is man enough to put it out on the line so they can make it even better. Hope they take their time and do a good job.
- reversial, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@maximinus:
Don't worry, you didn't miss anything. - coolbru, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@ridgelawrence:
"1. Learn proper grammar.
...
3. Stop acting like your a hacker."
Um, "you're". - ridgelawrence, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Heres some things to do so people will actually read your comment instead of thinking "Who the hell does this 12 year old Aim fanatic think he is".
1. Learn proper grammar.
2. Drop the "I just figured out what instant messaging is" way of abbreviating.
3. Stop acting like your a hacker.
Do those 3 steps and maybe, just maybe, people will respect you. - Obsidian743, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5First off, Vista pretty much IS starting from scratch. Rewriting the #1 OS isn't that simple. It's been over 20 years since they introduced MS-DOS and they are still weeding out old code in which Vista is supposed to finalize. Think about compatibility, the amount of software being developed out there and the types of users they target. When Windows NT/2000 came out it had a hell of a time running 16-bit software because they got the guts to rewrite much of the kernel and people slammed them then, too.
For the record, OS X wasn't built from "scratch" either. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"I'd be surprised if it didn't have some bugs, really. I'd also rather see this stuff found and fixed NOW before it's on many computers."
The vulnerabilities she found aren't even bugs, she just used standard Vista API calls. If the API allows ways for a cracker to load unsigned code into the kernel then that's a design flaw. -
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