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- riskable, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9jkfan87 said, "And, um, no riskable you stupid *****. The president did not admit to illegally spying. As commander in chief during wartime, he is doing it legally."
As much as I hate to reply to childish comments such as yours, I have a few things I'd like to point out to you...
1. Only Congress has the power to declare war.
2. Congress has declared war exactly 11 times.
3. Congress never declared war on Iraq (they did, however, authorize the President to use force in H.J. Res. 114--which was a compromise to prevent him gaining additional power as a result of a full war declaration).
I will not deny that we had "war-like" relations with Iraq over the past decade. However there is no denying the fact that, technically speaking, this is not a wartime president and thus, he was never granted the powers you speak of (which were added during WWI). Also, I challenge you to point out the "extra" powers that are granted to a President during wartime. You'll be searching a while before you come up with anything remotely resembling, "During wartime, the President is given the authority to spy on whoever he chooses without any judicial oversight or due process."
Besides all this, I'm a firm believer in that old document called, "The Constitution" (the pages of which many forget about). Remember now, laws made in violation of it's rules can be found null and void by the Judicial branch.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Pay attention to that "Oath" part, then think about the oath the President takes when being sworn into office...
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Since the courts have ruled numerous times that searches (monitoring is a search) without warrants are illegal, we have here a pretty solid case that what the President has done is illegal.
Also, since Congress issued articles of impeachment that declared Nixon's wiretapping without a warrant illegal, we have yet more precedent...
Nixon: Wiretapping without a warrant
Bush: Wiretapping without a warrant
It is all moot anyway. You're never going to change your mind on this subject. It was clear from your language (and the length of your post) that you have no intention of real debate. When you declared me a "stupid *****" and followed up with nothing more than baseless hearsay (with not so much as a link supporting your argument), you gave us all a clear representation of the merit of your argument.
-Riskable
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"I have a license to kill -9" - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3imagine being sued for copyright infringement over your computer downloading movies because it's zombied, if this becomes a big thing, it could get to the point where you can plead ignorance for downloads
- amitrix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DIGG+ for piping Mr.Bean...lol
- madeingermany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't care, as long as it speeds up the download
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hmm, evil but ingenious...
- Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That will teach those leachers...
- Stranger678, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In the US at least, you can be convicted and have your property taken from you if people use it for Drug Trafficking, with or without your knowledge, this law could conceivably used to continue prosecution for copyright infringement without knowledge. They can take all your stuff, and they never have to prove that you committed the crime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_forfeiture - carlosreif, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1interesting...
digg!! - schrags, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would have to agree with kitak.... why didn't i think of this.
- dharm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1botnets are controlled from everywhere, saying its being controlled in the middle east makes it no different than being controlled by some kid down the block...
the only somewhat new thing that was mentioned was getting rooted over IM... but thats not all that hard to figure out... (quick google search can give you tutorials on how to...)
and then the rest is just standard stuff that happens when you get rooted
just cause some person doesnt write a article about it, doesnt mean its not happening all the time...
sidenote: botnets are created through many exploits using many rootkits... becaause people building botnets want to get all the suckers... not just ones with a single vulnerability... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1scary? i'm thinking this is what we in the biz [of...pirating?] call "plausible deniability" :D think about it, any movies you get busted for get blamed on some gosh-durned botnet :D
- Mr.Glass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"if this becomes a big thing, it could get to the point where you can plead ignorance for downloads"
lets hope so - dharm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i cant believe that people JUSR realised this ***** was happening...
its not like all warez distros have legit hosts..LOL
same ***** as being rooted on IRC and your comp is a silent XDCC bot
or you get rooted and now your comp is a ftp dump site...
or your comp is http server...
get the point? anything used to share files will be installed on your comp without your permission, if you get rooted...
also, why is it pointed out "As a new technique used by the bad guys", this ***** aint new... if you arent a nub online and you hit up torrent dev places, you obviously known this ***** has been happening since the dawn of the torrent...
aardvark... just cause you use linux, you can still get rooted... and all they gotta do is screen in and out your comp =p - tobtoh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1heheh - it would be even funnier if your PC started distributing pirate movies/music because it was zombied caused by security vulnerabilities caused by the Sony DRM - cough - rootkit software :)
- AeonTorpor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@jkfan87
Owned!!! - HighDecibel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sounds bad, but now the RIAA also has to sift through legit and illegitimate "illegal" downloads. Not sure whether to love or hate the creators in this case.
- Ravenlock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1riskable - way to completely own jkfan.
That's all I have to say on the subject. ;-) - EyeDye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"some other hacking groups have picked this technique up, and will be running with it shortly."
How long before they have the MPAA & the RIAA unknowingly distributing pirated movies, music, & more?! :) - kandresen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am not so sure how great this is for those really downloading illegal content, however I see terrorists finding an easy attack against US in particular due to the legal system. Terrorists can this way get two things accomplished at one time - They can get huge corporation to sue other Americans to waste money and resources for nothing, and two they can spread fear of getting sued for something not committed...
Terrorist objective would simply be to make RIAA++ to fire off law suits.
It could also of course be used to download content that would trigger FBI investigations such as downloading information on bomb making, revolutions, communist material, or whatever else seem to trigger fear in the government enough to cause massive economic harm and cause officials to waste valuable time on nothing causing less chance for detecting the real threats... - nonokiaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just give everyone EVERYTHING and a computer with FAST internet access.
Maybe that's the idea?
Or to spread Mr. Bean (TV Show - not the crappy movie) buzz again? - JAWA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is a good argument in court when the RIAA busts down your door.
- sdbryan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Of course, the ultra left morons submitting to Wikipedia treat it as if the government can, and does just randomly go up to people and take heir stuf and then make them prove that they did not commit any crime. Hasn't happened once yet, and never will, but that is not good enough for the ultra left.
Off the top of my head there is the notorious case detailed here: http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/SJG/
Before pontificating and showing what a clueless fool you are it would be useful to have some cursory famliarity with well known cases. There is also an entire book by Bruce Sterling on all details of that case "The Hacker Crackdown : Law And Disorder On The Electronic Frontier".
It didn't happen in the US though it was certainly part of an MPAA crusade which led to the seizure of Jon Johansen's computer and property in the case lost by the MPAA in Norway (they actually lost twice). - dizdaz89, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"its not like all warez distros have legit hosts..LOL
same ***** as being rooted on IRC and your comp is a silent XDCC bot"
Exactly my thoughts when I saw this article. XDCC bots are literally taking over IRC... - jamiejamez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+01. create Rootkit and install it on purchased cds
2. create trojan downloader that exploits your rootkit
3. Scream piracy at everyone who bought you rootkitted cds and are now . infected with trojan
4. Profit... twice
wouldn't doubt it - VelvetNightmare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Absolutely hiliarious! I'd like to employ the same strategey against hard-core leechers!
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- uber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All future Piracy will now be the fault of Microsoft ... not taking the proper measures to prevent people from downloading illegal obtained IP can be a bitch.
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0borged seeder and borked spammer boxen unite!
- madeingermany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Damn, the comment system ate my satire-tags ;)
- MalDON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0its not hard to install bittorrent without permission. I did it at my school. They use a program called deepfreeze, but the only problem with their security is they give you all the space you nee don their servers, and i get outside access. So, I just installed to the network drive and walla.
- rtcreg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The game is extortion. You turn on your PC one morning and find 6 copies of "Plan 9 from Outer Space" cluttering up your hard drive. And... if you don't pay off, they start sending you the uncut version of "Heaven's Gate".
- dharm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0JUST*
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You've got to be a complete noob not to notice a bittorrent client downloading stuff on your PC! Such people are internet roadkill, utterly hopeless. They should stick to cell phones and PDAs for their internet access.
Why the terrorists chose Mr. Bean and Disney... the implications of that I don't understand. Some sort of symbolism related to the UK and US perhaps? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0torrent users arnt terrorists, its the morons that have monopoly over everything, and the idiots that support them
- sub-seven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"also, why is it pointed out "As a new technique used by the bad guys", this ***** aint new... if you arent a nub online and you hit up torrent dev places, you obviously known this ***** has been happening since the dawn of the torrent..."
Well that's cool, except I haven't actually seen it written about until now. Greatest secret of the internet age ;)
And actually, this HASN'T been done before - massive global botnet, powered via the first rootkit sent around by IM, controlled out of the middle east and now they start throwing bittorrent into the mix on top of everything else?
Yeah, we see that kinda thing all the time! - behemothaur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Unreal - +digg - not only is it really sneaky it will provide more seeders that would normally not even leech which is mega!
Also *deniability* peeps!
/installing non-malignant rootkit as we speak - xerox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I am not so sure how great this is for those really downloading illegal content, however I see terrorists finding an easy attack against US in particular due to the legal system. Terrorists can this way get two things accomplished at one time - They can get huge corporation to sue other Americans to waste money and resources for nothing, and two they can spread fear of getting sued for something not committed...
Terrorist objective would simply be to make RIAA++ to fire off law suits.
It could also of course be used to download content that would trigger FBI investigations such as downloading information on bomb making, revolutions, communist material, or whatever else seem to trigger fear in the government enough to cause massive economic harm and cause officials to waste valuable time on nothing causing less chance for detecting the real threats...
kandresen posted by kandresen (0) at 09:12 PM 12/20/05 "
OH NO! its a big conspiracy to make us all sue each other! - zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Mr. Bean they could have picked something better.
Oh well. I usually don't like root-kit makers but this is totally cool.
So at last people are putting zombie computers to a better use. - michaelsb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Those "noobs" are the majority of the people using the internet. I agree their skill level is lacking, but that doesn't take away from the fact that most people have no clue how to use their computer or the internet.
I don't think there was any reason for using Mr. Bean, other than testing a concept. Which they did. I think all of this activity is just testing the waters for something bigger in the future. - sub-seven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, its great that they steal all your personal data with the rootkit access before they pump some crappy films onto your pc. great trade!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lol. I love mr.bean
not in a gay way though
+digg, scary stuff, but makes downloads faster! - wbxhc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't feel like reading all the comments but I am sure you could get sued over this by the RIAA and MPAA. If your PC is being used as a zombie it is YOUR fault. I thought that the law was YOU are RESPONSIBLE for your OWN network.
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