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- MattS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@jmullman
You are very wrong about this... The image (fingerprint, iris, face, etc.) of the biometric is never used... A template of the relevant information collected from the biometric is what is stored. I'll email you my biometric templates now... They are useless to you or any hacker... - interglenn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just think of those movies where they knock out the guard and chop off his *something* to use on the identity scanner.
If I were a guard I would not work where there's a colon scanner. Not sir - sandburn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2These types of biometrics are much more robust than many others - its not subject to the "gummy bear" or "playdoh" hacks, and they can tell if the finger actually has blood moving in it (i.e. its not cut off).
Beyond that, it can actually tell how stressed you are by reading blood flow in smaller vessels and capillaries and comparing that to blood flow from larger vessels - the kind of thing that would happen if someone had a gun to your head, telling you to "open the safe" - YourTechSupport, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Damn. We really need, like, a spy tech blog or something to keep up with all this.
(note: Digg's spellcheck doesn't know the word "blog", or "Digg's") - MattS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Retinal scanners are no longer in wide spread use. As a matter of fact, I don't think there are any retinal scanner manufacturers in business any longer.
That technology has been replaced with iris scanning - which is performed at a distance (con tactless)... www.iridiantech.com - YourTechSupport, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been waiting for these. Our hands are already unclean most of the day, so we don't have to get pinkeye (or worse) from retinal scanners. Or some STD from those colon mappers. Article doesnt say if this is 'contactless' or not. I know I heard of something like these being installed in some hospital.
- JackCrowley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ah that's just beautiful, I can imagine someone carting arond a bag with a pump, blood, and a severed hand to do a black bag job now. Lets think of an example, since the bank manager is so stressed, the safe wont open, guess we'll have to kill him and use a pump on his hand to simulate realistic and relaxed blood flow. Yay for technology!
- Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2with all these biometric tools coming out, soon your entire body and brain structure will be mapped every time you walk through a door
- WVUChrisF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, but fingerprint scanners can be duped rather easily. They do research on it in the biometrics lab here at WVU. Its much harder to dupe more advanced biometric devices.
- JAKN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Gattaca....
- OptimismPrime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2um.... NON-Digg, because it's NON-News
This was talked about by Alex on DiggNation so long ago, i can't even tell what other stories were in that episode from memory... - missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Obviously, your blood vessels don't roll around in you, but their paths can change. You grow new vessels when you gain a bunch of fat, for example. It seems to me that like bone density, your blood vessels will change more than your fingerprint or iris/retina.
Fingerprint scans seem too easy to dupe, but what about iris or retina scans? Non-contact iris scans seem to be the way to go. - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2At this rate, it's only a matter of time before biometric computers will suck out our blood and just read our DNA.
- strumer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1These things have been at the biometric events for about a year or so. The claim is that the vein patterns in one's hand are unique to that individual. However, I have seen no independent testing of this claim.
The CEOs comment about beating out fingerprint and retinal is funny. As another poster said, retinal has been perty much replaced by iris. There has been alot of iris testing / verification (see any of the Daughman papers). As for fingerprint, maybe when people start leaving veins at crime scenes fingerprint will be replaced.
There is a huge difference in biometric systems which perform verification of an individual (1 to 1 comparison) and an identification systems (1 to many comparisons)
I'm not saying that this is not a viable technology, just that it hasn't been tested enough at this point. - gol706, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2These scanners have been around for at least a decade. I had to put my hand in one once back in 98 when I toured a nuclear power plant. Not exactly new tech.
- jmullman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The real problem with biometrics is that you can't change them like you can a password of a pin. If someone gets your information (or substitutes them in a database with someone else's identity) you are screwed.
Continuing this line of research is futile, at best, and a misplaced trust in technology at worst. - whitter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Phillips wouldn't reveal his pricing plans but says he'll be competitive with other biometrics tools, which run from $400 to $1,000."
Erm... fingerprint scanners cost a LOT less than $400. You get them on half the latest notebooks for a nominal charge. Oh and by the way, a photo is a biometric recognition device. About 10c then?
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