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dslinux.org — On this morning’s Click program made by the BBC, the HD-DVD key was broadcast to the nation.

Who dugg this? Made popular May 6, 2007

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  • JDWTC, on 10/12/2007, -21/+645don't forget, there is no DMCA in the UK, so the rest of the world can talk about numbers without fear from the fascist corporate controlled USA.
  • Crimsoneer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+187Unlike digg, the BBC checks its sources. If you want news on time, go to CNN. If you want real news, the BBC might be able to help you.
  • st00ner, on 10/12/2007, -4/+139gotta love the bbc sometimes!
  • ondrasoukup, on 10/12/2007, -5/+106yep, really funny :D
    It's at 8:30
  • speerross, on 10/12/2007, -4/+100We don't even have a constitution with a First Amendment in the UK, and still our free speech seems more protected than the USA's
  • GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+89Who gives a crap. They don't own the BBC and we are fortunate enough to have not capitulated to the crazy US IP reforms.
  • meez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+85I sense an angry letter making its way to the BBC office.
  • MasterJediYoda, on 10/12/2007, -5/+81"The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law which implements two 1996 WIPO treaties. It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services that are used to circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works (commonly known as DRM) and criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, even when there is no infringement of copyright itself. It also heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet. Passed on October 8, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended title 17 of the U.S. Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of Online Providers from copyright infringement by their users.

    On May 22, 2001, the European Union passed the EU Copyright Directive or EUCD, similar in many ways to the DMCA." (Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA )

    Actually there is a DMCA in Europe, it's called the EUCD.

    "The Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society, commonly known as the EU Copyright Directive (EUCD) or the Information Society Directive (Infosoc), is a European Union directive in the field of copyright law, made under the internal market provisions of the Treaty of Rome. It is intended to implement the WIPO Copyright Treaty, to which the European Union is a party.[1]

    This highly controversial Directive was, at the time, the most heavily lobbied measure to pass the European Parliament.[2] In its final form, it includes only very narrow exceptions to anti-circumvention measures and exclusive rights. As a result, it is often regarded as a victory for copyright-owning interests (publishing, film, music and major software companies) over copyright users' interests." (Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_Copyright_Directive )
  • tonich03, on 10/12/2007, -1/+75Well, it doesn't matter anyway. It's not like everyone who sees this is going to jump from his sofa, boot his Linux powered PC and proceed to hack HD DVDs.
  • Pootle4rthur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+73when they stop being under UK law
  • Shananra, on 10/12/2007, -4/+66America: Land of the free speech... unless of course what you say offends a large corporation.
  • benbread, on 10/12/2007, -2/+62Give them some credit - Click is a weekly Programme - Plus they had HDDVD code coverage on bbc news the same day as Digg.
  • radu79, on 10/12/2007, -6/+60Sometimes?
  • JamesShiell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+43Given the BBC isn't subject to US law and hence to the DMCA, it doesn't really reflect on Digg's position...
  • Godlesswanderer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40I'm going to guess and maybe say they're not.
  • fnorre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33The original Italian job was British, wasn't it?
  • SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33The real (1969) Italian Job (you know, the one set in ITALY) was, indeed, British. The 2003 film was actually set in Chicago, so I can only assume that someone decided to call it "The Italian Job" in a miserably failed attempt to capture some of the cachet of the British original.
  • r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39"Why would they? How many british movies do you see on a torrent tracker?"

    People like the British films enough to buy them.
  • Jonny0stars, on 10/12/2007, -2/+34America is "pwnd" rest of the world doesn't listen to silly DMCA law.
  • Timmmm, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37How about: Bond, Trainspotting, Lock, Stock & 2 Smoking barrels, Snatch, get carter, four weddings & a funeral, The Full Monty, Withnail & I, The Italian Job, etc.

    Ok, nowhere near as many as America but they do exist!
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35"don't forget, there is no DMCA in the UK, so the rest of the world can talk about numbers without fear from the fascist corporate controlled USA."

    Oh, we can talk about it too considering most of us don't give two ***** about any copyright laws that they can't really enforce. :D

    Plus spreading the key itself isn't illegal like most people believe.
  • matthewt243, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31DMCA doesn't apply in the UK. They are free to post it ;)

    -m-
  • drgruney, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33@metaridley

    Tony Blair is resigning??????!!!
  • tc1415, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29The BBC is *not* state sponsored. It is a Crown Corporation, separate from Her Majesty's Government, linked only by the fact they and Her Majesty give it its Royal Charter. It is paid for by a license fee under the Broadcasting Act, authorized by Parliament.

    However, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office pay for the World Service via a Grant-in-aid, but this is not on the World Service.
  • lfernandez91, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27Where have you lived the last week? Do you even know what the key is for?
  • Schwaz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30It is at 8:30 when they show The Pirate Bay.
  • generalloy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26"The key was deleted from digg not by the government, rather the admins. This is a PRIVATE site. Freedom of speech means nothing here."

    The DMCA that gives takedowns legal power...instituted by the GOVERNMENT..enforced by the government...

    sounds like an issue about the government to me.
  • tehdan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+36>> And as far as freedoms go in the uk. hahahahahahaha ::breath:: hahahahahaha.
    >> You have 20% of the world's cctv cameras, and new cameras that you're watched over in london, and you get yelled at for littering.
    >> Yeah, that's a real utopia you've got over there.

    How does having CCTV cameras make even the slightest difference to your civil liberties and freedoms? If you're not breaking the law, the cameras don't mean anything to you. They actually make me more comfortable walking the streets. I'd sooner have a few cameras than have my government listening to my phonecalls, thanks. ;)

    And, less importantly, how exactly is getting yelled at for littering a bad thing? I'd note it has never happened to me, but it sounds like a *good* thing. I'd sooner have people get fined for dropping crap on the streets than live in a city where there is crap all over the streets! That's what bins/trash cans are for...
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22I don't know if anyone has noticed, but the creative audio guru (17:29) was using audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/.

    nice of him to promote oss in a subtle way.

    Thank you mr o'toole
  • Shananra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23I'm sorry, I don't recall mentioning the government in my post. However, if you don't think the government has anything to do with the laws that allow Digg (or anyone else) to be sued like this, then I'm curious what country you live in.
  • chicoer2001, on 10/12/2007, -8/+28They're a little late
  • cyroxos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21>> And as far as freedoms go in the uk. hahahahahahaha ::breath:: hahahahahaha.
    >> You have 20% of the world's cctv cameras, and new cameras that you're watched over in london, and you get yelled at for littering.
    >> Yeah, that's a real utopia you've got over there.

    I live in the USA, and I don't see anything obstructive of being on camera. The camera **Watches** you in a **Public** place... Phone tapping in the USA listens to you in **Private** places - and has been shown to be mostly non-helpful. The litter cams are a good, progressive idea, whereas limiting protests, presidential candidates, and speech freedoms is not.
  • biffta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18I was with you all the way up until you said "the full monty"!
  • tanuki0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Well done BBC
    Some people out there are going to be annoyed, but GB isn't USA yet.
  • EvilGnome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Direct Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/default.stm
  • Azimuth1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Tony Blair announced his resignation before the last general election, in 2005. All the recent story on digg was about was that he said it was going to happen in the next few weeks; we've known he was resigning for two years now and the press has hounded him for it in that time.

    It's fair enough that you didn't know about this seeing as you're not from this country, but I'm just saying.
  • tehdan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15On the day the london bombings happened, the BBC served over 5.5 terabytes of data. At peak times, serving over 40,000 pages PER SECOND, or some 11GB/s of data... Not a minute of downtime.

    I think they can cope with a little digg hit. ;-)
  • MrSprout, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Ah... I love the beeb.
  • Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15we need the 360 private key everyone
  • lazyeyesam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@ Subiklim

    "...and you get yelled at for littering"

    What's wrong with that? Littering is just being too damn lazy to find a bin!
  • RUFiO006, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14This is a little off topic but the show reminded me... I was travelling through Canada and the US once and I met a guy who thought the singular form of 'pence' was 'pent', as in "I've only got one pent". I'm guessing this is due to the cents/cent thing, still I found it amusing. You can Digg me down now.
  • SpacedCowboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@charlesray

    Um, the edict on 'lese-majesty' was terminated along with Charles the first. This was *some time* prior to the creation of your country, as such it's your history as much as ours.

    There is a traditional area of Hyde Park ("Speakers Corner"), where anyone goes and shouts "Down with the Crown", or "To hell with the government, we'd like to come back", or whatever clever slogan they want. The only crime is when threats of violence are made, which I believe is also a crime in the USA.

    [note: it's obviously not *only* speakers-corner you can do that, but that's the place where people tend to gather to listen for some reason]

    Simon.
  • Philluminati, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@ renton. They don't do that.
  • drewpost, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12"The BBC is always late. Remember Tony Blair announcing his resignation? I heard it on Digg first. The BBC announced it several hours after that."

    Oh really? When is he leaving? Pretty sure that the only thing that's been announced is that he, eventually, sooner rather than later, will be resigning. No date has been set, hell even his home Secretary this morning said he will be resigning when Tony Blair does "sometime in June" so stuff it man.
  • tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The BBC has one of the largest internet infrastructures in use in the world, I think they're able to cope better than most :)
  • gfnw, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17You mean the cameras that the residents of these places are happy to have, as it means they feel safer walking the streets knowing someone is looking out for them? Damn this horrific violation of privacy! Damn it!
  • radu79, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I don't see how they can sue a 3rd party (Digg) for releasing public domain material on their site.
    That key was a trade secret, and guess what happens with the trade secrets that become public: They become public domain (legally, that is).
  • tybris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I think you don't understand. In the UK/Europe the legal system does make sense.
  • tehdan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9To the best of my knowledge, the cameras on our streets aren't microphone equipped. They're also mostly so high up that any microphone wouldn't pick anything up. That said - I'm in a public place, and thus the people around me can hear my conversation, perhaps tens of people at a time can hear tens of other people. There's no real expectation of privacy as such in a public place at the best of times. It would also be worth noting that at any one time, a camera operator would be watching multiple cameras, so they're really not watching "everything" any one person does - unless they're involved in an incident, or being specifically monitored as part of an investigation.

    When I'm sat in my house, having a conversation on a phone, there is an expectation of privacy. So yes, there is a significant distinction between being watched ( note: not listened to ) in a public place and having phone calls monitored.
  • cpemma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"and you get yelled at for littering."

    *I* yell at people for littering.

    And UK cops don't taser people for not jumping to attention fast enough. And jay-walking's not illegal here. Even though it could be captured on CCTV easily enough.
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