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- KyleRayner, on 10/12/2007, -16/+166Why all the dodging tactics? What exactly do you have to hide? You, sir, must be a terrorist.
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+99Never trust a company who's logo is the Death Star.
- Paktu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+98AT&T: Your world. Wiretapped.
- Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -4/+88No, this is a jump of about 8,000 miles. Welcome to China.
- ITDefPat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+69this is them collecting data about you, and how you use their products/services. This is BAD. Next they will claim that your identity is theirs! This is a jump backwards about 5 or 10 years!
- blong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+65I have not paid for an AT&T service since March of this year. I cancelled my land-line phone and I subscribe to an upgraded cable internet package. However, the Cingular Wireless phones are VERY attractive! Must resist!
- Paktu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+55Terrorists attack America because they hate our freedom. So if we just take freedom away, no more terrorists!
- member57, on 10/12/2007, -1/+52If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison, fourth US president (1751-1836)
- Tochi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+51Time to change service providers.
- laelfrog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+46Before you know it They are going to start asking for our Private keys... I am glad I am not using AT&T, I just Hope Comcast hasn't followed this path.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+45"We need to wiretap citizens, in order to protect this Country and our freedoms."
What a hypocriticical *****. I'm sending a letter to my state's representative today.
~chicken - HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+39If the data is not ours, can the MPAA/RIAA still sue us?
- veloscaper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36does that means I can party like its 1999 again.
- Drahkar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33This is how AT&T protects themselves from lawsuits over their obvious support of illegal wiretapping. Legal process. Right.
- GraceMolloy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30SBC and Bellsouth made Cingular. Cingular bought AT&T Wireless. AT&T and SBC merged and they bought Bellsouth. Thus AT&T now owns 100% interest in Cingular Wireless. Oh, and they are changing the name back to AT&T Wireless. (I used to work for them before this whole mess started)
And if they think I'm giving them a penny they're freakin nuts. - Llan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Na it's 22 years to 1984!
- dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27let's all say it together now... ENCRYPTION
- form3hide, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27last i heard cingular is changing their name BACK to at&t wireless
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Why don't they just put a big red-neon-light sign on their corporate headquarters that says "We Share Your Info With the Government!"
It would be much simpler. - 4degrees, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25wow, by that logic the state or federal govt owns my car that is traveling on their pipelines... so the govt should be paying for my oil changes, gas, and other upkeep on "their" car.
does the American actually own anything anymore? you don't own your home, the HOA does. you don't own your computer sony and their rootkits do. you don't own your data, whom ever line it came down owns it.
cashless police state here we come! - Jeremy82465, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23AT&T: Your world. (Not available in all areas, some restrictions may apply.)
- 1911wolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21I too had my landline phone disconnected last month. After the tech came out to disconnect I started to remove the wire from my house. He stopped short of calling it illegal like AT&T owns my house or something.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18what about those under thirteen or state privacy laws.. does a privacy agreement really have any weight in court?
I do think it is evil and dont think att understands the kind of backlash that can come from the internet and it's quick disemination of information.
In the old days, compnaies screwed you and if you didnt catch the one news report on it, you would never find out. I just hope people do more than just complain in digg comments. Unfortunately since when you vote you cant list reasons, i am finding i have to call all my political officials prehand and explain why i will vote against them.
I can live with conservative politics, i can live with liberal politics, I CAN NOT AND WONT STAND, corporate politics. - ScottAG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19AT&T: Your World. Ours.
- evileyetmc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Let's all say it together: Boycott.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Here is the contact information for Ed Whitacre Jr. The CEO of AT&T.
ew5410@att.com
Let him know your thoughts. - mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17^ for those that do not know, but the OP does...
Cingular was part of SBC, which SBC bought AT&T, and now is returning to its AT&T Wireless name. - sh0k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14public class struggle {
while (ourWork == theirProfit)
fight();
} - aviat0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13There are reasons that the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) exists. Do your research. What AT&T is attempting to do sets a dangerous precedent...
- Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13"I can live with conservative politics, i can live with liberal politics, I CAN NOT AND WONT STAND, corporate politics."
Wonderful quote, both for this and all the BS going on with the MAFIAA. We ought to put that on bumper stickers and T-shirts so we can get the attention of the non-geek world that has no idea this stuff is going on. - pairanoyd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Actually, you don't own a damn thing at all.
Try not paying your property tax and see what happens. You may have paid off the loan to "purchase" the land you are on but you still pay a lease on it through property taxes, hence, you do not and never will own your property.
All the license fees you pay to use all the things you "bought" ?? Try operating your vehicle, boat, motorcycle etc without paying that yearly license fee and see what happens. They'll take your stuff.
And you poor, poor windows users. You don't own that copy of Windows, you pay a license fee to USE it. Same with all the other Windows programs you use, you are licensed to use something that you don't own, the software companies retain ownership and can revoke your license on a whim.
The days that you actually OWNED your property went bye-bye about 150 years ago or so. - qwickone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13@ Tuba: I thought they had to have a subpoena to do that?
- sh0k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13How many headlines do you have to read before you come to the conclusion that we need to take direct action?
I've been flyering my city since the USA today story broke; I'd encourage others to do something, anything. If it upsets you, let others know.
Stop bitching and start a revolution. - analdisco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"Always the eyes watching you and the voice enveloping you. Asleep or awake, working or eating, indoors or out of doors, in the bath or in bed -- no escape. Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimetres inside your skull."
No prizes for guessing what that's from. - nilobject, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I encourage everyone to make a point by cancelling their services and explicitly stating the reason for their cancellation. My e-mail to the above named man:
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It frustrated me when AT&T cooperated with the illegal wiretapping of innocent U.S. civilians. It angered me when AT&T denied any wrongdoing. It really flipped my lid when AT&T was shown to be in bed with the government and used esoteric and rarely-used provisions to attempt to dismiss a righteous lawsuit while claiming innocence all the while.
The breaking point came today when I read the following article in regards to AT&T's change in policy to no longer protect its customer's privacy.
[link to SFGate article]
I will be canceling all AT&T-related services as soon as I get home from work. I don't care if no one can call me for a month. I will never again allow my money to be used for an AT&T service.
I'll be encouraging my family and friends to do so, as well.
-[my name]
Student, web developer, and all-around freedom-loving, constitution-loving proud U.S. citizen, except when it comes to the destruction of freedoms by corporate greed. - SuperGhost, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Corporate America makes the big bucks which buys off the politicians (remember being a politician is a job) which screws the hard working people.
- sleepless, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Unfortunately, it will be hard to change where some places have no alternatives.
- KSiegel, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22Go ahead and buy a phone from Cingular Wireless. Remember, Cingular bought AT&T's wireless division. That means it's a part of Cingular now and AT&T is a seperate company.
Though, honestly, T-Mobile has much better rates and phones. - Krush, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I won't be using any AT&T services until they change there views on my personal data. No money for companies that don't believe my privacy is important, you just can't trust them.
- info, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@Krush:
https://www.eff.org/support - mpancha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Im glad I left ATT years ago.
"AT&T says it's spending $4.6 billion to roll out TV programming to 19 million homes nationwide. "
How is ATT or any other telco spending any of their own money? We've had many digg articles about how they collected money in the form of raised fees for services not provided. Mainly, the digg articles of past focused on our lack of Fiber to the curb.
ATT also says "AT&T's Britton said the 1984 law doesn't apply to his company's video service because AT&T isn't a cable provider. "We are not building a cable TV network," he said. "We're building an Internet protocol television network."
Going b y that logic, its IP related, so it relates to their network, for which the american taxpayer has already paid for.
What we need is a healthy dose of swift kick to the arse for ATT. - thatsiebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9What does this mean for data entering their network from a different provider, whether its to one of their customers or not?
So now you don't actually own the property your house is built on - the city does, you just rent it, and they can tell you what you can and cant do on it, as well as take it away from you for their own use (imminent domain). Your house is owned by your bank, as is your car. Your phone service is tapped so the government can do anything they want with your data, or the phone company can sell it off. Your means of TV is monitored and your viewing habits sold to targeted ad companies. Your buying habits are monitored by your Credit Card company and the stores you shop at, who then reports your habits so others can offer you more debt. Oh, and now you can't deny the public utilities or else you are thrown in jail. And all those movies, cds, software, hardware you paid for was just for the right to use and can be taken away if used improperly. Soon it will be illegal to encrypt your data beyond what the government can crack or else.. Funny how everyone else can do what they want with you, your data, your property, your privacy, and your rights so they can make a buck and cover their asses.
I think there's something wrong with a company writing your rights out of their service agreement so they can protect themselves from your rights.
Times just keep getting better.. - 1DNA, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12The Revolution is coming and ***** like this will fuel it.
- dustedbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I love the part about "to protect its legitimate business interests, safeguard others, or respond to legal process."
In other words. "We don't want to get raped by the RIAA". - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Idea: send a notarized letter to AT&T (return receipt) stating that you assert copyright on all of your personal information -- you can easily prove you created the information yourself before they claimed ownership. You agree to license it to them for their own internal use only insofar as it enables them to serve you, but they are not licensed to give or sell it to any third party under copyright law. If they then do so, you can sue them for copyright violations.
- pairanoyd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+105 years ago after getting ass raped by SBC on DSL and phone service I told them to stick it up their ass and I went outside with a pair of bolt cutters and CUT THE WIRE at the pole and at the house. I rolled the wire up and put it in my garage.
I removed the gray phone box from the side of my house, I ripped all the phone wires from the walls inside and out and threw all my phones in the trash.
When they sent me a final bill I told them to stick that up their ass sideways.
I'll never pay those sorry sacks of *****, ever. ***** theives.
I had cable internet installed and got a good cell phone and I've not regretted any of the things I've done for a single second. I do just fine with cell phone only.
I don't have voip and could give a crap about it. I use a single cell phone for home and business and I'm well pleased with it.
FU AT&T..... - Seidoger, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15hmm.. Go[l]d Bless America?
hehe. - gregorypierce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Contact you local congress critter and local government because that is reason for them to no longer be allowed monopoly status in your area.
- elamr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Is freedom still free if there is no right to privacy?
Freedom is not free... at least not in America. - eatmorgnome, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13I'd hardly call millions of nerds whining on their blogs a Revolution.
They can even get off their butts to vote, so do you think they would do something which requires more effort?
Complaining isn't activism. -
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