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- jms38, on 10/12/2007, -5/+192KILL THEM
- rudy23, on 10/12/2007, -15/+103better yet. Invite them for a quail hunting trip with Dick Cheney.
- theragu40, on 10/12/2007, -6/+59I'd like to sign up to help kill these guys. Where can I do that?
Anyone else with me? - Sarki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+52The actual story:
http://www.securitypronews.com/insiderreports/insider/spn-49-20061113TenSpammersCreate80PercentOfSpam.html - shadus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+53... Except it's NOT bs. The vast majority of spam comes from an extremely small number of people using a wide variety of methods. Spamhaus has long forwarded this idea, this is part of their ROKSO list.
Perhaps you should do a *little* research on something you're posting on before commenting that it's bs just because its from the inquirer. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+50Yes, because a bunch of frustrated computer nerds would put an end to businesses financed by organized crime syndicates in the former Soviet Union.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+42I have an idea. Let's send tons of emails to arbitrary people and ask them to join us in our fight to kill spam!
- greymarketbrain, on 10/12/2007, -5/+45it'd be nice if spamhaus published these *****'s home address, phone #'s and anything else they could find...
that'd end 80% of spam in about 3minutes - tawt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37And I still haven't received my Cia1is and V1agr@
- Odweaver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36kill one and two more will pop up to try and make it to the top ten spot, plus some of the russian ones supposedly work for the russian mob.
- JTrout, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39@JMS38
Killing them would end it too quickly. Torture them, and then kill them - combatchuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34The police are trying, but they're kind of hindered by the CANT FIND act of 2006.
- Rutje, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33"Someone needs to find them and send them away..."
Yeah, I replied their mail many times, but htey don't seem to stop... - danejaneiro, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Somebody needs to hunt one of these guys down, kidnap them, torture them, and execute them, and video the whole thing. Then release it on YouTube. Title it: Next?
- Desolite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22OK, OK... I'll stop sending it, jeez. i thought you people LIKED getting my e-mails.
- neoform, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25Someone should start an organization to help people send them hundreds of thousands of letters (the real kind) full of advertisements to help them with their obviously lacking sex life, scams, disgusting pictures and other annoying crap.
Might be vigilantism, but what else is going to stop these guys? - flernk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23@neoform
That would require their home address and sending them junk mail is one of the least effective things that can be done with their home address. - crombenevolant, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20We should throw these 10 people a party... a blanket party.
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Wow... people on digg must have all had their sense of humor surgically removed today.
- LoungeActx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Someone did that (minus filming) to a Russian spammer, there was a featured article in Wired a few months back...
- jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23I hope they die, seriously. I hope they perish in a fiery death bringing their loved ones with them.
- archlich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Do the bullets magically travel and destroy their servers too?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Looks like Spamhaus got DDoSed. It seems to be sharing the fate of BlueSecurity a while back. Too bad they "had" to take it down. It was a nifty idea. BlueSecurity that is.
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12So go hunt those down as well... no one said it would be easy.
- cybersaur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Since 2 of them are located in the U.S. you'd think that the (you) "CAN SPAM Act" would be used to shut them down...
- brianbennett, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Crap! All these people were in the same room for a photo. What a tragically missed opportunity.
- scronline, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The problem is this. Spam could be stopped by doing a few simple things. A few years ago an idea came up that is staggeringly simple, but would require all of the world's mail servers to implement. While it would be simple to do, none of them seem to be able to agree on the method to do it.
Basically it's like this. Server level inquiries. When an email comes in, the receiving mail server will take the "from" email address and query the MX record for the domain in question if it actually sent the email. This can even be done before the email is completely accepted. If the MX record for the domain did NOT send the email, it's dropped. Simple as that. That will completely and utterly stop ALL "bots" from being effective. Beyond that since using this method we are forcing ISP (and everything else) to properly setup DNS and so forth, we can simply use blacklists to block the rest of the known spammers.
There is only 1 downside which can be written into the code. A spammer COULD in theory setup a mail server to approve all email queries. Blacklisting these servers would work as well since the DNS for those kinds of mail servers would be blacklisted and thus return a 127.0.0.x IP address the receiving server would never be able to get authorization and in 72 hours (or whatever) would drop that email without delivering as well.
When you take away the fact that email spam no longer reaches the end user, it will eventually stop as there is no monetary return for doing these activities. - kaguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9No reason to be skeptical; the claim has been misrepresented. This is what the Spamhaus site actually says: "Up to 80% of spam targetted [sic] at Internet users in North America and Europe is generated by a hard-core group of around 200 known professional spam gangs . . ."
Then they list the top ten spammers. The 80% figure refers to the 200 professional spam gangs, and the 10 people are just the most prolific of that larger group. It's really amazing to me how securitynewsnow, the inquirer, and all the of the commenters on digg didn't just read what the source actually says. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I'm down with that.
Except im not using soap, im using rocks. - stenk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9What you mean no one wants a bigger Penis?
- ScottMitchell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8In less than 100 years, I assure you they will all be dead. (insert evil laugh)
- datsclark, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1110 well aimed silver bullets would take care of these guys alright.... only to spawn 10 more spammers in their place.
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Remember BlueSecurity? Who caved and shut down after a pretty heated battle with the Ukraine guy?
There's a (very slow-moving) project to do the same with FOSS at http://www.okopipi.org - archlich, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28Monty_Python%29 - kraeji, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Someone should start a fund to hire a hitman. I'll put down the first $20.
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Had Stalin been alive today he wouldn't have put up with this *****. Spamming would mean summary execution. Of course... This would mean maybe 1,000,000 or so innocent people sent to the Gulags for suspected spamming.
But what did we say about tragedies and statistics... At least dictators make the trains run on time and our inbox free of spam. - mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7A couple of years ago a major spammer in Florida (?) was taken out, and I remember spam volume dropped dramatically for a while. Spam volume seems to have really climbed recently.
- sinfree, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Baghdad even.
- andyrobo60, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6If we know who they are then why are they still alive?? If we all put in $10 I think we can afford a hitman,
- contradictator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I am Nigerian Prime Minister. I am willing to put down 43,000$ of my people's pension plans if you can cover the rest. Thank you.
- AndreGerber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7That you! I know exactly what you mean. They should all just perish. It will be for the greater good. I am a sadist when it comes to spammers. Sorry.
- SonnyW, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm offering some totally free excellent viagra with that. Just sign up here...
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Just set up a pay-pal account for hitmans and I'll donate.
- dutter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Hi Diggers,
Let me clarify, since I wrote the SecurityProNews story. I made a mistake with the title, and wrote ten instead of 200. Ten spammers are responsible for 40 percent of *illegal proxy spam*, according to Steve Linford from Spamhaus. Also, anywhere from 50k to 100k PCs get hijacked each day, based on Spamhaus data.
I apologize for screwing up the title. Dropping those top ten spammers would definitely have an impact, at least until other people or groups took their place. - floorman56, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Everyone quit your bitching and go here and help shut them down
http://thescambaiter.com/antispam/SpamVampire/index.htm
If we pull enought of there bandwith and send enought fake stuff people will stop - carbonetc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If spammers had the free reign they wanted to have, they'd choke the internet. I forget where I read the statistics, but a very scary amount of the daily internet traffic is already made up of spam.
Since trillions of dollars would be lost all over the world if the internet wasn't protected from these people, they should really be considered criminals to the highest degree. The laws against spammers of this calibre simply can't be severe enough. - thebairyhum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I know educating the masses is almost impossible but if anyone really wants to stop the problem they should set up a program to educate people (statistically older adults (viagra anyone?)) on a massive scale. If you stop the inflow of money to these spammers because people know they aren't going to get the products then this problem will solve itself.
- samcrut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm usually not a big fan of public hanging, but for spammers I'd buy a ticket.
- samcrut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Nah, not fire. You can't make out their faces when they're on fire. Hanging. Public hanging.
- Frozenpython, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What I want to know is if they have ***** PICTURES of some of these people, and they also know where they are from! How can they not do anything about this? Why the hell can't they catch them?
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