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- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38dead site..
- JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30isn't that the definition of a speed trap? a place where officers hide because they know people speed there? if you know of another definition, i'd like to hear it.
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -12/+30*****. The normal flow of highway traffic is 75 mph, so anyone driving at that speed is not really speeding. Highway patrolmen are armed tax collectors engaging in the selective enforcement of an unjust law. Many accidents are indirectly caused by the few idiots who drive exactly the speed limit no matter what, because normal drivers have to engage in unnecessary lane changes to get around them.
- DerekJ212, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24Tell me again how photo radar catches murderers, rapists and thieves?
- jbinl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19I thought a "speed trap" was a place where speed limits changed (for instance, from 70 to 55 on a highway) with only a small sign. Cops sit on the "55" side, and wait for people who are going above that speed, which had been legal only feet before. There are a few of these near Cleveland, OH, where small townships (I think that is the proper term) have a portion of their land jutting into the highway, so they can set the speed limit for that small part.
- wto605, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23never mind, bury me
- crimpshrine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Nice idea, poor way of doing it.
Am I supposed to look through every city on the way to a destination 800 miles away?
In my experience over the years the speed traps I have encountered have been more interstate related while traveling, easy way for some of these small towns to make some money on people passing by. - Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21Hmm, so citizens should obey every law the government passes, and the police have a right to enforce every law? That kind of thinking leads to concentration camps. Laws should exist only to catch and punish the unavoidable deviant minority of a society. Any law which the majority of citzens break on a daily basis is unjust.
- AndrewJC, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20Speeding laws exist for only one purpose, and that is to generate ticket revenue for police departments.
- Cadaver69, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Sorry to hear about your brother, but are you sure it wasn't alcohol related? Or some other cause, like erratic driving. There is a difference between speeding and erratic driving. The accident rate is lower in Germany where they have much higher to no speed limits on the autobahn. The biggest problem I see is people sitting in the left hand lane and causing others to pass in the right. This happens a lot in Connecticut due to all the left hand exist.
- crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12and replace "180" with "the mayor's daughter."
- zdislaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13While that certainly meets my definition of a speed trap, I think often speed traps involve areas where the speed limit suddenly drops AND there are officers waiting to catch those who don't notice.
There was one such place in Cincinnati where I managed to get out of the ticket because they clocked my speed coming in to the trap (toward the officer who was waiting at the beginning of the trap). All I had to do was show the judge the ticket that said the officer clocked my speed coming toward him. I pointed out that that was before I even entered the zone. The judge sort of rolled his eyes, looked at the officer like "duh" and threw out the citation. - JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I find that there's an "acceptable level" of speeding on most highways which tends to be anywhere from 10-20 mph more than the posted limit. It's not outrageous to go 70 in a 55 if it's the NJ Turnpike and everyone else is going just about as fast. It is outrageous to go 45 in a 25 near a school or highly residential area. You just need to use common sense and be careful.
- Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I would say the biggest difference between the US and Germany has nothing to do with speed limits. It's with driver training. Here, anyone can get a license with no training or experience at all for less than $30. There it takes months of hard work and thousands of dollars. You can lose that license with minor infractions too. So there's a real incentive to drive well over there. Here the incentive is not getting in an accident. And alot of people dont so much care because they think they're a good driver while they drive along in the left lane 10mph slower than the flow of traffic yet speed up whenever you try to pass on the right.
- marinist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Sure, but the speed limit is not enforced consistently, but usually limited to these "speed traps".
Most speeders are seldom ticketed, and those who are often feel it's arbitrary.
I don't care about people who drive 10 mph over the limit, but those who drive unpredictably and recklessly (at any speed). - JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11sweet 8 lb 6 oz jesus
- blackkbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Me too! But replace highway with sidewalk.
- JibberGeorge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Ricky Bobby would disagree with all of this... so would baby Jesus
- johnnyrotten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The problem with speed traps is that they are usually set up in places where it's convenient to catch people, and not in places where speeding is neccessarily dangerous. The trap just east of Concrete, WA, for example, is at a point where the speed goes from 35 to 50 on a steep downhill, and most of the tickets are written for under 45. They're catching people traveling through the town to go to a vacation spot because the locals already know about the traps. I'd rather see them catching people driving 35 through a neighborhood where the limit is 25, but those aren't convenient.
- HolyJaw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9HAR HAR HAR COPS AND PIGS LIKE DONUTS YAHAHAHAHA
Am I popular yet? - nuclearpenguins, on 10/12/2007, -16/+23After almost having lost my little brother to an accident related to speeding I'd rather have everyone get caught and be taught a lesson, but hopefully not the lesson my brother was taught.
- rlbigfish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Sure, you risk lives when you speed in your car, but guess what? You risk lives just by driving a car! Driving, in general, isn't safe.
Also, chasing after a speeder who as of yet hasn't caused an accident...get this...GREATLY INCREASES THE RISK OF AN ACCIDENT!
So what's more dangerous? Letting one ***** do 95 in a 65, or chasing that guy at the same speed with 3 squad cars? - Gryffydd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Actually, he is mostly right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_trap#United_States
A speed trap is usually something a bit more sinister ;)
Edit: looks like everybody and their brother beat me to it....I've got to not go to the bathroom before finishing my post... - harley999, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Also here is another link that shows speed trap locations, pretty accurate for my area.
http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/stetlist.asp - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Traffic cops don't have time for this stuff dude, you aren't living in our reality.
Justice? I see cops speed all the time, just driving through traffic, nobody watches speed limits. I think speed doesn't matter, it's knowing your vehicle that matters. You can be unsafe at slow speeds if everyone is going fast. Idiots following too close, not using blinkers, acting rash, etc... they are the ones that are wrong. I always stop at stop lights, right on red, blinker, etc. everything perfectly, but I also always speed but I increase following distance, watch mirrors and everything that goes with it. Speeding isn't a crime! - joshd2189, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7the location of speed traps should be a standard feature in GPS navigation systems...
Annoying navigator voice: "Decrease speed by 30 miles per hour in 1 mile"
of course you need to have a way to stream in updates from a site like this... - therealrico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Guys, speeding limits really came into place during the gas shortages of 1973. They did this cause the slower you drive the less gasoline you use. After the shortage towns and state governments realized what a good income stream it is they kept up the speed limits. The fact of the matter is speed limits were put in place not because of the safety of people, but because of our country trying to save gas. While I support speed limits in such places as school zones, back roads, and so forth, I feel the speed on US interestate highways is unjust and wrong.
Studies have shown that most people without a speed limit would drive 75 MPH, regardless of a speed limit.
My point is this, people who say it is the law, are ignorant of the fact that the speed limits for the most part were put in place for something completely unrelated to helping save human life, and kept in place for profit. - Qenton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7That's a bad way of thinking. Just because everyone does it doesn't make it right, you might need to draw the line somewhere. Laws are often about social engineering. But before you digg me down there are many laws that are on the book that people don't follow and should be removed because they cause more problems than they fix.
Take California speed limits on interstates. I've seen from states that have a 75 mph that most people are happy with that. Since California chooses from 65 to 70 on average most people feel compelled to speed. What happens is that when someone decides to speed it is usually 80. Now you got people who are obeying the speed limit 0f say 65, out of state people who drive 75 and the speeders who drive 80. Now put that on a 4 lane (2 in each directions) and you got people constantly trying to overtake other vehicles, this causes bunch ups and when they do get free they speeders want to drive even faster.
In other states where it is 75 and most people are happy you just need to overtake the slower trucks and since everyone else is going at 75 it makes it much easier to set the cruse control and just concentrate on driving. - Soldierboi, on 05/09/2008, -2/+8While I didn't learn any new speedtraps in my area, I did learn that there is a "Hicksville", Ohio.
- Teague, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Speeding is not categorically unsafe, and auto accidents that result in death very rarely result from speeding alone. You walk across the highway and get hit by a drunk driver at 75mph, you're going to die, and you're not going to die any less if you get smashed into at 55mph. Speeding has nothing to do with it, and the only time it DOES have anything to do with safety is when you need to stop suddenly and don't have time to, - which is not even a speed issue, but a following distance issue.
Car accidents result from unsafe driving in general, which is made up of bigger fractions of not paying attention, not anticipating the stupidity of others, intoxication or inadequate following distance, and only a very small fraction of actual *speed.* - iTorrey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This guy isn't completely incorrect. A speed trap is often where the speed limit changes drastically in a short span. An example would be a short, mostly straight freeway offramp that has no light at the end and the speed limit on the exit's road is 35mph. Drivers take the exit at the flow of traffic (around 60mph) and then are almost instantly speeding.
Another example is when going from 45mph to 25mph for a school zone that lasts all of 500 feet. Cops will sit there mid-day when no children are even around and pull people over for not slowing to 25mph.. and they give an extra large ticket because.. well it's a school zone and all. - blackomegax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5you mean "bad drivers"
speeding doesn't kill. people kill. - crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@AndrewJC
Actually, the ticket revenue mostly goes to the state, not the police department. - kevincw01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4horrible interface. My city is mentioned twice and the same comment is posted like 50 times in a row. I thought "what jerk did that?" Then I added my own comment and it was duplicated in different spots among the other comments 7 times? Also, they escaped my quote with ' but then they didn't unescape it when they printed it! lol, these guys are either horrible programmers or don't care and just want to click on their lame ads.
- crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5http://www.duggmirror.com
(you have to type http:// or else it wont link it) - Moebaca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Thats a damn good idea! I'll go in it 50/50 with you
- dhulser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@tenlow
there's been a few studies out that have shown that in average instances, speeding by 10mph (average) will only save you a minute or two on a 1 hour drive - kitchenfairy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not in Seattle....those bastards will get you for 5 over. No joke....bastards.
- SpeedyG, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Gerz, congratulations on the Godwin's Law invocation!
- thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4wrong.
you don't get pulled over for flashing your brights because it is obstruction of justice, you get pulled over for it because it's "Improper use of auxiliary driving lamps" or something similar. - blastin311, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Being digg-bombed really sucks. People need better hosting plans.
- wto605, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
if they go after people who flash their brights to warn people of a cop around the corner I'm sure they'll go after these people - sirloin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3there are many levels to speed traps
you do have the extreme speed change, i always laugh as you exit sc and enter GA, the lanes increase by 4 to 8 and yet the speeds drops from 70 to 55, it is an easy place to make up money when the town needs it but i dont call it a speed trap because they wont always pull you.
for me a speed trap is more like the small town near me that will pull you for going 1 mile over the limit, or for not using blinkers or for having stickers on your car.. these are more taps, because you get caught everytime you break the law and even sometimes when you dont. - DPyro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@KidVicious
It's more dangerous to go the posted speed limit and be 20 under everyone else, since scores of endless cars have to weave around you, then going 20 over but the same speed as everyone else
Lane changes are more dangerous than going 20% faster on the highway. I'd rather go faster and spend less time on the highway, and therefore spend less time in danger on the highway. - admirabumblebee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Point is: They will pull you over and give you ANY (and all) ticket(s) they can.
- admirabumblebee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4When im in the left lane, it's because I intend on passing everyone else :)
That's how most folks in florida drive - HolyJaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@dehulser
I speed a lot and often reflect on my speeding.
The speed limite is 65 MPH here in so cal along the freeways. I go 80 with the rest of traffic. I drive 30 miles.
At 65 MPH, 30 Miles takes just under half an hour, .46 hours actually, or 27.7 Minutes.
At 80 MPH, 30 Miles takes .375 hours, or 22.5 Minutes.
So by going 15 MPH than the posted speed limit, or just over 25% faster, I'm saving only 2.2 minutes off my drive.
Sure, to the normal person that's not worth it.
but to the people that drive freeways for extended periods of time every single day, twice a day (or for me sometimes four times?)
It's hella worth it. That adds up over time, and on top of that after a week or two, those self-righteous soccer moms that like to take their time and swing right in front of you and awit 10 miles to get into the carpool lane? Well having murderous thoughts doesn't help a speeding problem, trust me. - SavageOwnage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4HolyJaw
Its 5.2 minutes not 2.2 minutes saved. - blackkbot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I always keep a spare dough-nut around for those damn speed traps. What you do is wait for the cop to come up. Then, offer him a dough-nut. When he accepts (and you know he will) you give it to him. Then gun it and you shouldn't get a ticket. Works 100% of the time.
- war59312, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Site is dead and duggmirror never seems to help any as every time this happens it seems it never has a working mirror of the article. :(
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