What is Digg?88 Comments
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35No, it didnt. It's stupid as hell.
- biff198, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32fta:
"I use the MOM test when creating URLs.... if my mother understands the URL then I go with it. "
If I used that test, I may as well give up on the internet all together...
fmm (From my mom):
"Do I go to wwwgoogle.com or wwwDOTgoogle.com?" - Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32"Yeah, go to centernetworks dot com, slash top hyphen three - no, the number three, not the word three - reasons hyphen to hyphen use hyphen clean hyphen urls. No, U R L S."
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I always like:
Me: "Go to mail.mailhost.com."
Them, typing as they speak: "Okay, W W W ... what now?"
Me: "Did I say WWW? No, I didn't. So why'd you type it? STFU n00b." - armbar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Same rehash anyone worth their salt in web design should know already.
- NJank, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15top 3 reasons to digg-proof your server...
- biff198, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12http://duggmirror.com/programming/Top_3_reasons_to_use_clean_URLs
- XtremeBug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Ilhyftntaayshtewtaamaw (I love how you felt the need to abbreviate and yet still had to explain what the abbreviations actually meant after words.)
- rh387, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13http://duggmirror.com/programming/Top_3_reasons_to_use_clean_URLs
- CeeJayDK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@luckyllama : So now she's typing URL's into the MSN search input instead ? :-)
- luckyllama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I tried to get my Mom to use firefox. She eventually stopped using it because she typed everything into google search input (on the default homepage) and not the address bar and didn't get where she wanted. ::sigh::
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5No, the Digg link contains underscores. The centernetworks.com link contains hyphens.
- memerot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Umm.... one of the top 3 reasons to use clean URLs is to "show off your dopeness"? Wow. What am I, like 12 years old? Dude, my URLs are so dope. In fact every URL I have must contain the word dope at least once. site.com/iamdopebitches, site.com/doperthanyou, site.com/dopetasticporn, ....
- armbar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Go to http://ask-leo.com/does_iis_support_url_rewriting.html and look in the comments.
If you have the option, I would install Apache though. - hansamurai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://organicstats.com/suspended.page/
Now that's a clean URL! - chrismm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hey guys, this is the admin of the box here. I've done what I can to make sure this customer is up. SQL has been offloaded to a spare server, and an emergency ram upgrade should do the trick. BTW, the "how to survive a digg" article sucks. :) If you all are interested, I can toss something together, as this is the 3rd or 4th digg i've had to deal with.
If interested, drop a reply here and i'll put something together and post it for you all. - ElMoselYEE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@luckyllama.
most of my family does that, too. i tell them i have a website, and they go search for it, and they're like...your site must be broken, i couldn't get to it...cuz they always use the google search not the address bar. honestly i don't remember ever being that incompitent. - pred8tr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5C'mon guys! It's not like we all don't know Kevin's real plan was to build the worlds largest DDOS system anyway. Way to go Kev! Mad props. KUTGW.
j/k - tzmguitarist, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9And how do you really feel?
- DesireCampbell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ ElMoselYEE
I actually do rmember being that stupid. Granted I was 7 or 8, and had never be taught anything about computers before.
Though, in all fairness, searching for "www.ytv.com" ususally brought up a link to that site on the results page - so I never failed to geet where I was going, I just took the scenic route, so to speak. - Colindean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I read a link on Digg a few days ago that proved #2 to be false, i.e. search engines don't care about clean URLs. I can't remember what the story was, though.
- Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -0/+3But it's a good reminder, something newbies might not have considered, and a site to which you can point others when you're trying to explain the upside of URLs and are drawing blanks for reasons.
- lazlonger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Assinine. ANYONE knows these "tips". Not to mention the original link is, as stated above, is trashed into a bunch of code I confess I don't understand.
Don't use long url's because
1. They're annoying
2. They're confusing
3. They make you look confused and annoying.
STOOPID. F%$#in' bloggers suck. - Soulhuntre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2While you mentioned PHP, be aware that ASP.NET 2.0 supports url re-writing natively as well.
- buba69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Original site back up, after host discovered dugg'd site...
Use original link - http://www.centernetworks.com/top-3-reasons-to-use-clean-urls - Flukey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You're right. I mean when you look at forum thread urls listed in google, they're like index.php?id=45&thread=2 etc...
- till, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hey Chris! Please do.
- honds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@riklomas
If you actually read his comment you will see that mod_rewrite is right in his comment. He obviously knows about it.
@Lycander
I prefer to use a custom 404 error page. Kind of a round-about way to do it, but here is how it goes:
1) Set the .htaccess file to use your 404 which is in reality a PHP script.
2) Catch the actual URL sent to the script. I can't remember the enviromental variable for this off the top of my head but there is one.
3) If the URL is bogus display a real 404. If it is not, look up the real page in the database, set your variables ($_GET["x"] = "y"; will work and to your script it will look just like it was passed via GET). Then finally do an include.
Not the best way but it is quick, dirty, works and doesn't use mod_rewrite. - jibijibi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I honetly think digg is not what it used to be. It got lamer and lamer over this with links like this one.
- Flukey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Please, for all of us, keep your pathetic opinions to yourself. However, it'd be interesting to see if your hosting package could handle digg. It's been mirrored, so stop moaning. Jesus.
- memerot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well that's because search engines are lame and don't care about dopeness. But you care about dopeness, right? Don't be a dope, use dope URLs. Like site.com/ismokedopealldaylonganddontknowhowmylamearticlegotdugg
- erestar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We use ISAPIRewrite.
The idea to use 404s is really a bad one. Like another user mentioned, those return codes mean something. Having ever page go to a 404 to server content can only be considered a hack, and when there are more robust and proper ways to do things its normally best to go with them. - carguy84, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3File:
www.domain.com/se-friendly-url
Folder:
www.domain.com/se-friendly-url/
Search engines do catalog these 2 URLs as unique URLs. IIS will automatically 301 redirect /se-friendly-url to /se-friendly-url/ but only if that folder actually exists. If you are using a rewrite or a custom 404 page, then the URL won't be redirected and you'll have to do it manually in your code.
Take if from some one who got slapped with a duplicate content penalty!
Chip- - Haplo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I've recently "clean URL'd" my site now, so it is http://www.richgentlemenhide.com/comic"
I still see dirt (www). How to remove this, see: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2004/04/12/rewritingurlsforgoogle.html
FTA: "firefox0dayhoax" and then it talks about SEO. For SEO I would recommend: firefox-zero-day-hoax though.
Finally, if you redirect, use a 301 (*Permanent*) redirect via Apache instead of index.html files that redirect using meta refresh, or even php files that 301 redirect. See: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2006/08/18/ - Haplo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No disadvantages other then that we might lose the double you double you double you in commercials :-D.
Also, I understand that it might combine PageRank. If you have a www version (actually a subdomain) and a non-www version, each has it's own PageRank value. By always redirecting (301, permanently) the www version (for example) to the non-www version you combine those two. - Flukey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm going to move my hosting soon to a Linux platform running PHP instead of Windows 2k3 running PHP. However, for the meantime, as a future reference, do you know of any means to have clean urls using php on IIS running Win2k3? Cheers.
- bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ummm... I did?
Well maybe I'm just not as smart as you are sir, and I need you to spell out the security concerns for me, so that I am better prepared to refute them. - ziggystardust, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The mom test? This isn't any new ground breaking data. Its called common sense.
- inmatarian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I prefer tiny urls. Or tinyurls. The point is, they're shorter.
- bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What the heck does security have to do with clean URLs?
And, if you are using Apache, once you learn the ins and outs of mod rewrite (which can take some time depending on your apache skills, regexp knowledge, etc) it's in fact very easy to change the urls of an entire site very quickly. - bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2since armbar knows it already it shouldn't be on Digg, DUH
- honds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@DontSayFanboy
header('HTTP/1.1 200 OK');
will fix that problem nicely using PHP. I will have to test again it to make sure but if I remember right it also takes care of the log as well. - malliemcg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought that #1 would be - more traffic.
After I switched from ?id=123 to /topic-title I got more google search results :D
M - Obsidian743, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1bpapa, I think you answered your own question.
- buba69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1GoDaddy=Decent host service?
...does not compute... - splintax, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Sweet?
- marcamillion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Chris, please post a good article about dealing with the digg effect.
Thnx - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Use tinyurl for those long URLs when sharing them. :)
- armbar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1bpapa, it's not because I know it already; it's because you could accidentally trip over the same story 200 times with casual web design-related searching.
- frukt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if ($HTTP_REFERER == 'digg.com') drop_connection();
or along those lines
not too difficult, really -
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