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- skara, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Drupal is by far the best CMS for any kind of website [from blogs to portals]
With the new E-Commerce system is unbeatable ;-)
Drupal rockz! - seanmc303, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Drupal does rock, but I will give you a fair warning. I have been working with installing the ecommerce module for the new Drupal 4.7.2 and it is far from bug free. I have been working with the developers, and they have been extremely helpful and quick to respond. This is a project that seems to have a lot of momentum, but not all of the bugs are worked out yet. I'd wait at least a couple days or a week or two if you want a seamless solution.
- rickvug, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Before this story gets inundated by wise ass grammar comments ("Its" not It's") let it be known that I did catch that... when it was too late.
- AaronD12, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9We got tired of osCommerce and just wrote our own. If you've ever tried to follow the cryptic osCommerce code, you'll understand why.
-Aaron- - panatlantica, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I can only agree. There is no other CMS that is a) more flexible, b) more modular, c) more advanced, d) more "advancing communication of your users on the site" and e) more fun to work with - both professional as well as for fun. Probably there come a lot of f), g), h) and i)s as well ;-) I just love it and having had a first look at eCommerce, a selection of modules suitable for any kind of E-Commerce web site, even auction sites etc.: it is again the best you can get: you won't find a more modular approach giving you just what you need for YOUR site, a more international approach, with all the APIs available to work with almost any shipping or billing system around the world, and: there has often been the wish by customers to have a true combination of content management AND e-commerce application, with content and offers mixed and matched in any form. Drupal with eCommerce will do that just brilliantly fine!
- xptical, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6How about using it for a small-community trading post. Something like a nice "craigs list" style replacement would be nice.
- darkmisery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6There's a great store based on osCommerce, which I found to be a lot more flexible and stable. It's called Zen Cart (http://www.zencart.com
- avPaul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Learn to READ! See the very first comment.
Maybe if you weren't so fixated on your chance to be critical you'd find time to read what others have written. - johnnybravoh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5osCommerce is pretty nice "out of the box", but if you try to do anything beyond the simplest of customizations, you're in for a nightmare. Modules are installed by searching through existing code in certain files and pasting in bits of the module code. This makes it a kludgy mess when trying to add functionality to osCommerce. Also, all the layout is table based. No css for layout at all. It really really really really needs to be updated to continue to be relevant.
Again, if you don't mind what you get when you install it and you're not looking for anything beyond, osCommerce is nice. If you need to customize, look elsewhere. - ecstaticist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4No need to say WordPress is better than Drupal. They are different. Completely different. I use WordPress for my personal blog and Drupal for community oriented websites, particularly the Organic Groups modules. It is truly brilliant. So is WordPress. I'd say they are in different lanes.
- Valence, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Good catch on the "it's". Too bad you didn't catch "comerce". In the future, padawan, you must avoid wise-ass spelling comments as well ...
- berkes, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7A biiiit pretentious.
Yes. Drupals ecommerce is a nice tool. And together with some other nice modules you can build a nice shop. Especially if you look for something to **start developing with** it is great.
But please; people, don't make it sound like it can compete. The amount of payment apis cannot get close to the ones OScommerce offers. The amount of features, the widespread support, the ease of use etc, all make OScommerce a MUCH better Out Of The Box tool.
So, yes, Drupals ecommerce has a lot of nice things, and its power for developers is its main feature. But don't expect it to get even close to what OScommerce can do.
We; the Open Source world should stop presenting or tools as competing OSS apps, and focus on the differences. Not present Drupals ecommerce as OScommerce killer, but present it as an alternative, *under certain conditions*. - jzimmerman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Does this mean you are volunteering to "clean up" the code?
- robertDouglass, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@berkes "We; the Open Source world should stop presenting or tools as competing OSS apps, and focus on the differences." -- excellent quote, man. The amazing thing about open source is that there are *so many* projects, many of them very good. I can't help but mention, though, that if and when Drupal's E-Commerce packages are on par with OS Commerce, the fact that you can have the rest of Drupal's functions on the same site at the same time do make it a very attractive package.
- seanmc303, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you want an extremely basic shopping cart with some very basic ecommerce functionality, Drupal's ecommerce module is for you. If you want anything more, consider something else.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Though Drupal has been making progress, we've been slowly moving away from it. Drupal may have many features, but installing and maintaining it is painful to say the least. It is highly dependent on specific versions of PHP and MySQL. For example if you want to use it with mysql 5+, you will need to start mysql with the MYSQL40 behavior option otherwise drupal won't work. It also dies with PHP 5.1.4 and needs a heck of a lot of work before it decides to behave. Sorry but no dice.
- berkes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sure, but we did not yet compare any payment, shipping, orer management etc features in OScommerce! Drupals ecom only has one paymentapis (paypal) while oscom has around FIVE hundred (I have no clue if they actually work all of them)! Drupals Ecommerce has very rudymentary tracking features (one, simple module), OSCom offers full blown shop management tools, and about 200 additional addons for this. Drupals ecom can only offer you simple shops, the potential (Nodes!) is there, but *is not yet utilized*. Sure Drupals ecommerce might *become* great, but oscommerce already is great :)
so yes: in potential it is great. But it *is* not yet there. Far from! - idreamincode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use zencart also, great cart, easy install, and cleaner interface.
- seanmc303, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One more word of caution.
If you download the ecommerce tar file yesterday, it has been updated today, but it has the same file name. Keep a close eye on the date that the modules were released because you would never know from the file name. The 4.7.0 in the file name does not reflect the version of the module, it reflects the version of drupal it will work with. The ecommerce module I was using yesterday didn't work at all. Today's ecommerce module (with the same file name) works fine. Just a heads up :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@pickupman
I've been coding in PHP for 6 years now. osCommerce *still* has some of the ugliest code I've ever seen. - BryanSD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes berkes, you're right the Drupal e-commerce module has a way to go to be as popular of a shopping cart as osCommerce. However, I think the competition is a good thing. I've wanted to like osCommerce...but every time I dig into it...the code seems to really reflect more of a legacy application than a current or upcoming application. Hopefully osCommerce starts feeling the heat and decides to push back with some fresh approaches.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Zen Cart > osCommerce
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1With all the whining about osCommerce, why has nobody mentioned ZenCart? Isn't that the offspring of osCommerce with true modularization and CSS support?
- blackmath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is Drupal good for just a random personal website like a blog or something? I have gallery set up for an image gallery but the rest of the site sux. Somethin like this could make it really nice if done right. Anyone have examples?
- EdgarVerona, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Man... my hat's off to the Drupal community. They've really maken, I feel at least, a revolutionary product with the whole line of plugins and the base system. Years ago programmers had to create custom solutions for a variety of purposes... I remember at one point in my life programming five different websites for five different clubs at my school.
With Drupal, you just point them at the Drupal website. It has everything any community/group based organization could ever want for a website, fully customizable with minimal technical skills. Makes people like me obsolete, but I'm okay with that... I couldn't stand it after the first time I coded a site like this myself. =) And now it seems they have E-Commerce solutions too. Drupal is where it's at. - bean1975, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0dies with 5.1.4 and MySQL 5.0? let me see what I have:
ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.1.4-1.dotdeb.1 PHP 5 scripting language - apache 2.0 module
ii mysql-server-5.0 5.0.21-3ubuntu1 mysql database server binaries
tell me more. Or file bug reports. - nerddiver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Stupid reading and stuff!
Look under "Ecommerce package showcase"
http://drupal.org/project/ecommerce - paragonconcept, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2osCommerce was overkill for many of my needs, and it looks like drupal will be as well. Are there an open source projects out there that act as simple payment gateways? I don't need a top-notch CMS - that's what Perl/mysql/css/xhtml are for. So far the only thing Ive found is Merchant Order Form. While this has worked well for my needs, and is rather affordable, it has a very small user community, and the development team has seemed to moved on to bigger and better things.
- terssi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2to Dracos:
Yes, Xaraya is very promising CMS-framework (state-of-the-art, I think), but some of its' modules (e-commerce, XMLHttpRequest, ect.) are basic and need way too much tinkering before being productive.
I hope that they get more programmers behind the project. Their core team is very capable, but too small.
- ajlowe, on 10/24/2007, -0/+0Ubercart, http://www.ubercart.org , is another good Drupal E-commerce solution.
- akmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> Drupals ecom only has one paymentapis (paypal)
http://drupal.org/project/ecommerce : The system can use paypal, authorize.net, e-xact, C.O.D or you can roll your own. in http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/modules/ecommerce/contrib/ , you can find ccard, E-Way, iTransact, WorldPay. and more to come. - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I like Virtuemart for Joomla better.
- Skilaq, on 08/14/2008, -0/+0We have an ecommerce package based on osCommerce its called Digistore http://www.digistore.co.nz/
- gnomex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have no experience with Drupal, but I find Joomla and typo3 to be very professional.
- basicus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0VirtueMart for Joomla is a more mature project, and really deserves to be checked. However, the VirtueMart code is not the cleanest. But at least there is a broad userbase, and a very active dev. team.
The last time I checked Drupal's e-commerce module, I wrote an article on it at http://webshopadvisor.com/content/view/33/73/
Drupal is a wonderful tool, but you need to invest quite some time into getting a grip on it. - Phew, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I recommend Virtuemart (http://www.virtuemart.com/). It has a lot of features and its very easy to customize. I haven't tried drupal e-commerce (yet!) myself but i have watched some examples on the drupal website.
It looks to simple. It looks to blogwise. I think we have to wait a couple of weeks or even months before it really gets on going and more functionality will be added. I will stick to Virtuemart for the moment. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@nailbunny
I'll probably be burried for provoking a troll, but credit where credit is due: you are a hillarious bastard. - Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I originally thought the same when I started working with OSC, but over time it all made sense. It's not perfect code and no idea why he used classes for some things but not for others, but you can't beat its stability, security, and scalability. It does make sense, you just have to spend the time learning it.
- Visceral, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Joomla is also a good CMS system. I havent tried Drupal yet, so I'm not sure about it.
- pickupman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I have coded a few contributions for osCommerce, and have helped debug others. Not too sure what's cryptic about php & mysql. That's one thing I have like about osC, CREloaded, & ZenCart...seem pretty easy to mod.
- bean1975, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"Have you guys actually looked at the Drupal code? I have, in fact, seen worse - but not very often. That thing is a revolting mess of insecure binary offal. " the security team, security@drupal.org eagerly awaits your security reports.
- staan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Drupal... eCommerce? No, no, no. Oh, no. Oh, ***** no.
Have you guys actually looked at the Drupal code? I have, in fact, seen worse - but not very often. That thing is a revolting mess of insecure binary offal. If you choose to use their eCommerce code, and your business is based in California, start writing your public notices about stolen customer data now. You'll save time when you get hacked. - Dracos, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3http://www.xaraya.com
- nerddiver, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Has anyone setup a test site yet, using these items? Screenshots would be overkill, but it is always nice to see what Drupal has to offer that osCommerce does not.
- investr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0www.cubecart.com
nuff said. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Buy a mac! Then you can listen to iTunes on your iPod or use iChat to talk with your iFriends on the iWeb.
- Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2BTW, obviously, there are also things you don't see, like AJAXed default admin iface for wordpress or the AJAX Edit'N'Place plugin, etc, etc. I would argue that the wordpress community is much broader than drupal's. But hey, it's just my opinion.
- Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Please don't call drupal the best CMS. Please. Take a look at wordpress (.org) and then you will see what a CMS is supposed to be like (yes, I tried both). Seriously. BTW, here's wordpress in action, just what blackmath needs, as I set it up for a personal site. I chose not to use gallery and instead went with a faster approach using Lazyest gallery that integrates into wordpress.
http://beerpla.net (work in progress, 3 days) - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2its too late!
- Sibertank, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1ahhh!! why is everything e-[insert word here] now a days. I really just cant stand it anymore... Ok.. I'm done
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