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- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8this is software engineering stuff. software testing. whitebox testing involves testing a system that you can look inside, so you know how it works and test its features as such. blackbox testing means you don't know whats inside.
basically the gyst of the article is, "***** you, i'm not testing all possible inputs, that would take forever" and "here are ways you can do that". those ways being testing random stuff until you find a problem, testing combinations of variables, and weeding out inputs that are equivalent to some tested input. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I see someone has been putting the random scientific paper generator to good use.
- JohnnyVu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's kind of hard to believe that you're an instructor at a college with a name like '2phat4u2'.
- lahuard, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9I think I speak for most of digg when I say- Huh? WTF?
- psykr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Even if you were a teacher at CMU it doesn't justify your flamebait comments and willingness to stoop down to nailbunny's level. Please don't go around using your "position" to justify your behavior.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4sorry, nothing yet. you're getting close though
- CrackHappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow - and I moved to Digg from Slashdot because I thought the articles were generally better and more interesting to a tech geek like me. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against all the articles that aren't tech related, as it has been said before that Digg is no longer just tech stuff.
But come ON. Anyone who writes software or even pretends to write software has to deal with testing of some kind automated or not at some point. I should just shake my head and walk away from the high school crowd that seems to have made Digg over in its image. - Cerberus047, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4and why the heck did kevin rose digg this????
- Pulse_Instance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@nailbunny: You are one of the people who actually understand the point of this article, from the summary I am assuming that he is proposing that when testing software you create blackbox tests that you write as if you were writing whitebox tests. This task can get even easier if you are a tester that works with the same developers for awhile as you get to know what they know and what sort of mistakes they tend to make then you can concentrate on the things they don't know as well and the sort of mistakes they tend to make. This does not mean that you should only test those areas but that you should definitely concentrate on them.
As to almost every other person who has posted that this article is useless and pointless and has no place on digg, my last job was a software tester and this article is extremely well written and contains a lot of good information for anyone who is or may be a software tester. If you are in Comp Sci or Comp Eng there is a pretty good chance that at a some point in time you will be writing some tests, and this article can help you improve what you do. - 2phat4u2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Clearly it's racially motivated.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3the moment you make a good joke, i'll find it funny.
that will probably be around the time you figure out how to reply. - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2lots of coding stuff on digg, i see a lot of ruby with a smattering of c c++ and java
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Because most people Digg articles based on name only. Do you really think 202 people have read this article?
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you just made my morning, thanks
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2please don't tell me you've taken a computer science course and you still can't figure out how to reply to a message properly.
did you pass this course you took? - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3constant time in worst case is pretty good, even with rather large constants, sometimes
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2i resent that
- jcmia1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0and you can automate testing with STAF, an open source from IBM. Here is a great article about it and sample code. also good for performance testing.
http://www.performancewiki.com/performance-staf-jmeter.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1that is the ONLY reason i read this... just because of Kevin... WTF!?
- augsod, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12 million is generally not that large of a number in computer science. Granted, it quickly becomes difficult to test 2 million if you are testing something that might take some time (web queries, for example).
That said, I think this article would be more at home on http://www.codeproject.com or something. Although interesting, I'm not sure it's at home on digg. - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3some general advice for your field, find a job site and look for job descriptions, take classes that come closest to those. then you go to teacherreviews and avoid the C and D guys.
- Cerberus047, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2So is it school testing or computer bug testing????
Am i the only one who was hoping for some tips to getting an a for an exam??? - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3rtfa, stfu, stfd
- JohnnyVu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Oh brother
- JohnnyVu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2well, that clarification helped. now, i want to read the article since it deals with software engineering.
i'm majoring that in that field after all. - empiget, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1blah blah blah
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Peesha, i'll just use my Sidekick when I need help on a test.
- 2phat4u2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0I actually teach CS at CMU, but not to knuckleheads like you (with no sense of humor).
- 2phat4u2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0"nailbunny"? Somehow I think PETA would object
- 2phat4u2, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1>>2 million is generally not that large of a number in computer science
I take it you never actually took a computer science course. - Aurarch, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1digg is corrupt!
- 2phat4u2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0I thought time was constant anyway.
- JohnnyVu, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1You got my vote.
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4The submitter of this is the author of the article. He's posted his site to Digg before, to no success. It's a random article which makes no sense to post on Digg.
WHO is this article targetted at? Why do you have to go through all 2 million choices? What is the purpose?
This guy has no idea what he's talking about. He uses Dell's laptop configuration as an example, which has over two million possible combined choices. He then states that for some strange reason, they have to test all two million configurations... Why? - JohnnyVu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1So this article is stating that 'White'box techniques are far superior to 'Black'box automation? What?
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