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- AceyS, on 01/09/2009, -3/+87"Realistically, you won’t be able to use these on your everyday client projects for another few years..."
That's only if you give a ***** about IE users! I'm using rounded corners NOW, and there's nothing you can do about it! Muhahaha! - Radan, on 01/09/2009, -1/+66<!--[if IE]>
Burn in hell IE users! BURN AND SUFFER!
<![endif]--> - PinkyTheWinky, on 01/09/2009, -2/+40Dont be such a negative nancy. IE users don't belong on the internet.
- marcoionox, on 01/08/2009, -7/+43That's a pretty good article! Future, here I come!
- dollar0dot02, on 01/09/2009, -1/+34i am pushing my web design into the future by slacking and procrastinating.
- MrVeal, on 01/09/2009, -2/+32I was sold once I saw the custom font called in url() !
- mitch37, on 01/09/2009, -4/+30What the point when no one updates from Internet Explorer 6. If you build your website with CSS3, no one will be able to view it. CSS3 wont be implemented for another 5 years atleast...
- WafflePirate, on 01/09/2009, -4/+26Why? CSS3 isn't fully supported just yet. I don't advise moving to CSS3 until its nearly fully supported and implemented.
- annjay, on 01/08/2009, -7/+27I am trying to move on CSS3 and this post is perfect for me.
- Proz, on 01/09/2009, -2/+16Yes! Let’s all use a non-standardized version of CSS! What could go wrong?
For now, I think I'll stick with CSS2.1 since alle the major browsers now support it, more or less... - HonoredMule, on 01/09/2009, -0/+14The problem with the future is that your audience lives in the present.
- VictoryGin, on 01/09/2009, -0/+13Considering the number of people STILL using IE6.... It will be about 10 years before you can drop support for people still not using a browser that supports CSS3
- mitch37, on 01/09/2009, -0/+11No idea why you are being dugg down. It is a sweet feature, but as mentioned in the article below, it might make for some VERY annoying websites with web designers going to town.
http://typographica.org/001112.php - Meocross, on 01/09/2009, -1/+12I felt a sudden jolt of pain when i saw the code sheet, what sane human being is going to be shifting the X Y positioning of over 180 objects? @_@
- ArielMT, on 01/09/2009, -1/+11aiiiIIIIEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee!
*ahem* Actually, if the IE8 beta is to be believed, IE will finally catch up to Netscape 6 in CSS compliance.
IE's compliance with CSS3 can't be more than 100 months away. - MWeather, on 01/09/2009, -1/+10If Google can drop support of IE6, I'm fairly sure the rest of us can.
- aussieNickuss, on 01/09/2009, -1/+10Now we just have to wait a decade and a half for Microsoft to update IE with CSS3...then we'll be all good to go.
- tolgafiratoglu, on 01/09/2009, -0/+9I hate the idea of inserting n lines to create a rounded corner for n browsers.
- mithrasinvictus, on 01/09/2009, -0/+8I gave up on waiting for IE to catch up. They'll just start work on some new set of activex filters that nobody needs.
Visitors get the type of experience their browser can support. Some get nice extra's, some get a functional site without the extra's. - inactive, on 01/09/2009, -0/+8progressive enhancement, baby, read it an weep!
- TheSpook, on 01/09/2009, -2/+10> "If you build your website with CSS3, no one will be able to view it."
If that is the case, you're using CSS wrong. The content should still be there.
If someone is still sticking with IE6 by that time, they should be used to messed up web sites in general and obviously don't care. - svivian, on 01/09/2009, -0/+7Rubbish. You can put CSS3 rules on your site and just have "graceful degradation" for older browsers, e.g. for border-radius, IE6 will just show it square. No problem with that IMO, people still using IE6 don't deserve pixel-perfect web sites. As long as they function OK.
- chorny, on 01/09/2009, -1/+8IE6 is now only 20% of all users. IE7 - less than 50%. So, there are 30% of users that have good browsers.
- phrozen755, on 01/09/2009, -0/+7I LOVE the custom font functionality. Finally, websites can stop using flash to display article post headlines!
- gsnedders, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6That's in CSS 2.0, FWIW.
- godsdead, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6Finally some features that have been "bodged" for years to accomplish lol
So now he IE6 fixes are going to have to be more horrific than ever =o
I love using opacity in my designs, and this has opened up a ton more oppurtunities. - solidwhetstone, on 01/09/2009, -1/+7I will digg anything good related to CSS.
- MediaCrisis, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6Can't we just send an angry mob after IE6 users? I want this to be standard noowwww :(
</whiny bitch> - Meep3D, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6If I am making a site for money, It works in IE6. If I am doing it for the fun of it, it gets blocked.
- michaelphw, on 01/09/2009, -1/+6It's a shame for design in the workplace also, a lot of businesses use IE6 still, forcing me to steer away from PNG's and nice CSS styles.
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -0/+51000
- mikusd, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5Indeed! Now i won't need to throw sIFR around as much.
- phenom2k7, on 01/09/2009, -1/+6Why did they decide to get browser statistics from a website that's solely aimed at learning to design / develop? It would be nice for a realistic percentage of who's using what browser. Unless your designing to showcase to other designers there really isn't much point.
Also, w3schools has nothing to do with the W3C? - Fantikerz, on 01/10/2009, -0/+5<!--[if IE]>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox"> <![endif]--> - DPRVig, on 01/09/2009, -1/+6You can use both PNG's and CSS styles with IE6. You just may have to make a separate ie.css file to compensate for the brower. As for the PNG's, I'm assuming you are talking about the transparency problem, just read this article: http://nettuts.com/videos/screencasts/5-easy-ways- ...
- iPanda, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5It'll probably be 2020 before IE fully supports CSS3, so you got lots of time to implement it.
- bobjohnsonmilw, on 01/09/2009, -1/+6Seriously? IE6 should be banned from existence. Maybe if people would just ***** stop supporting it, it would FINALLY DIE.
I second the notion that IE users shouldn't be on the net anyway. - 7aji, on 01/10/2009, -0/+5prepare for a new cornery shadowy transparency filled design nightmares soon!!
- LowRentDiggs, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5Depends on the site. The site I work on mostly has 40% IE6, 50% IE7, 8% FF
It's a nightmare and doesn't have an end in sight.... - seedsofwar, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4hey, i hate IE nearly as much as the next guy, and i think all browsers should stick to standards and implement them fully and as quickly as possible. however that's obviously not the reality. you can't punish users for that, at least not in a commercial site. instead, try your best to educate the users, and get involved with the browser vendors. get in their face, give them feedback, tell them that you demand standards compliance.
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -1/+5I can't wait to use this in 7 years when most of IE's base supports it.
- adampassey, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4I can't wait until these become industry standard and I can finally stop loading browser-specific css files.
Would have been nice to see something about css3 gradients in there, as the only documentation I've stumbled upon has been for webkit: http://webkit.org/blog/175/introducing-css-gradien ... - grantmoore3d, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3Finally, my dream of creating shadowy wingdings can now be a reality!!
- Proz, on 01/09/2009, -1/+4Wait, we are complaining that IE6 and to a large degree 7 are not standard compliant. Then it certainly doesn't help to start using a CSS scheme that is still in draft and thus fragment the web once again.
I would love to use CSS3 but it’s not happening until it has been standardized and implemented in all the 3 big browsers. - inactive, on 01/09/2009, -0/+39000
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3I already use the curved corners - none of the others. I have compliments from users who can see them, and the ones who don't, seem to enjoy the "uncurved" corners I've left for "graceful degrading" so, we can work it out. Fun stuff.
- cubicledrone, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3"I'd like to start using style sheets on the company web site."
"Did Bob sign off on that?"
"No."
"Bob has to sign off, and he's in an all day meeting today. Tomorrow he goes on vacation for six years."
"Our site sucks."
"It's all part of our strategy."
"What's our strategy?"
"To keep smart programmers like yourself frustrated, isolated, politically impotent and constantly on the verge of being fired." - gsnedders, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3CSS 2.1 is no more stable than some of the CSS 3 modules — heck, things like CSS 3 selectors are probably closer to being published as a REC than CSS 3. Also, almost nothing published by the W3C is strictly a standard, it is a specification which the consortium recommends.
- Petronious, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3You are correct, sir, and in addition to the points you made, transparent PNGs don't work well without IE6 hacks. But man, it's better than trying to force two absolutely positioned elements to fit together.
- billrdio, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3@Petronious
Yep - good point and I have used that as a solution as well as multiple DIVs and absolute positioning. But using PNGs isn't a perfect solution.
If for example you use a semi-transparent PNG to create a semi-transparent box for content, to change the color of the box you have to open up your graphics program and create a new PNG. I would rather just change the background color for that box in my CSS. Or what if you want to dynamically change the color of a semi-transparent container via JavaScript - can't do that if you are using a PNG. -
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