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- InorganicMatter, on 12/23/2008, -2/+24NICE! Glad to see Rails making such headway. Hopefully Merb's performance is the shot in the arm that Rails needs to go as mainstream as PHP.
- BradBrown, on 12/24/2008, -0/+17The Anderson Cooper and Ryan Seacrest of Web 2.0 programming community have announced their marriage.
- thredden, on 12/23/2008, -4/+16once again proving that the ruby community is the best around!
- bradleyland, on 12/24/2008, -1/+12Interestingly, Rails is all that much better once you get past the hype and in to the work.
- lava, on 12/24/2008, -1/+12Why does Rails have to be as mainstream as PHP?
- rumblestrut, on 12/24/2008, -1/+9This is very exciting news. I'm looking forward to what comes from this. A less resource-hungry rails would be a most welcome improvement.
- gkskillz, on 12/24/2008, -0/+7Sorry we offended you with "technology" articles.
Here are some sites you can go to where you won't have to encounter any such articles:
http://www.people.com/
http://www.usmagazine.com/
http://www.okmagazine.com/ - magic6435, on 12/24/2008, -1/+8but the important thing is… what does zed shaw think??? :D
- Kragnerac, on 12/24/2008, -4/+11Rails is here to stay.
- gaoshan, on 12/24/2008, -0/+6Actually PHP versus Rails is like comparing vehicle transportation in general to a specific type of truck.
One is a language and the other is a framework that uses a language. - addiktion, on 12/24/2008, -2/+7Great news :) I'd like to see Rails get up to par with PHP on performance. Then those of us who put our fingers in RoR will be a little ahead of the soon to be saturated market of awesome coding.
- Shagin, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5Yea... say hello to your mother for me....
- seanmc303, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5I have used CakePHP WAY more than I would ever care to. CakePHP is a cheap and poorly implemented want to be Rails clone. I feel sick every time I have to code CakePHP.
- SuperMoses, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5Mainstream = larger community = more support
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -0/+4For those not familiar - http://merbivore.com/
- bradleyland, on 12/24/2008, -1/+5Why is it a fanboy framework? Honestly? Ruby on Rails mixes two things that a lot of people (who know what the hell they're talking about) really like:
* Ruby - an excellent scripting language
* MVC - a very well thought out design pattern - syphonist, on 12/24/2008, -1/+5Have you done any performance comparisons? When I run straight ruby using NET/HTTP its faster than PHP. When I try to render only text through a MVC framework like CakePHP vs Rails CakePHP is a 3x slower.
Please compare Frameworks next time. Ruby is a fine language and is plenty fast for web apps. - tolbs, on 12/24/2008, -0/+4http://zedshaw.com/blog/index.html :
"I honestly didn’t think that would ever happen. I just assumed that Merb
would eventually wipe out Rails by being the better framework, or they’d
wipe each other out soon.
So, congrats are in order. You guys are finally grown-ups and now have
the chance to make something better.
Hopefully they won’t ***** it up with their typical back room deals and
political spin *****." - pedepy, on 12/24/2008, -6/+9php is more powerful than ruby ?
maybe that's your problem right there... - joaob, on 12/25/2008, -0/+3Hating a programming framework is retarded.
Ruby is here to stay and live peacefully alongside PHP and Java....and since Ruby is here to stay...one can only assume that RoR is too. - mississippiman, on 12/24/2008, -0/+3why would it be bad if it is?
- kagato, on 12/24/2008, -0/+3Well, he's got a few good shots on the net.
There's either his "Moses-hands":
http://www.flickr.com/photos/x180/2607470439/
Or his rockstar pose:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/x180/2607470367/ - finaldarkone, on 12/24/2008, -3/+6Is Yehuda sexy enough to join the Rails core team?
http://dhh.ytmnd.com/ - gaoshan, on 12/24/2008, -0/+3Whatever he thinks, he will find a way to work in some anger about it.
- punkrockscks, on 12/24/2008, -0/+2DHH confirmed there is no new logo planned.
- gAquila, on 12/25/2008, -0/+2I've tried PHP, RoR and Django. If you know Python, go with Django. If you know Ruby, go with RoR. If you don't know either of them, try both, as I did. I chose Django.
- Aupajo, on 12/24/2008, -0/+2Performance is a question for architecture, and it shouldn't restrict your language or framework choices.
Also, Rails recently started supporting more Rack awesomeness with Metal. If you want to build a really fast set of actions, you can bake the Metal code into your chunkier Rails app for superfast stuff. - gaoshan, on 12/24/2008, -0/+2Yep. REAL developers use Grails because it is even more newbish and cutting edge than Rails. Also because it leverages a language called Groovy... how could anything be cooler than that (just ignore its Java roots and it will seem much cooler)?
- Ramble, on 12/24/2008, -13/+15Wow, do people still use Rails past the initial fad?
- terryhuang, on 12/24/2008, -6/+7who?
- lvizon, on 12/24/2008, -0/+1Merb is being merged into Rails 3, not merbRails.
- tucsonwc, on 12/24/2008, -0/+1Es muy porkulante!
- MrChunks, on 12/24/2008, -0/+1Where does it say it's the new logo? Other than nowhere?
- counterplex, on 12/24/2008, -0/+1A new logo would be stupid. Rails has so much more brand recognition that adding the Merb name to the mix does nothing. I'd say acknowledge the merger some other way but don't change the logo or the name.
- MtheoryX, on 12/25/2008, -0/+1"Which will only be legal in CA?"
Well, not any longer :( - falafelkiosken, on 12/24/2008, -0/+1lol
- seanmc303, on 12/24/2008, -0/+1Those pictures were the best. Thank you.
- rowjimmy, on 12/25/2008, -0/+1whoa, i think this is a bad idea. merb was nice for not being rails, for being lighter and more something you built from the ground up (eg, choose what orm you want, etc)... they're claiming they'll build all that into rails, but i rather than being an environment in which you can build a full-stack up, i think it'll be a full-stack that you can tweak down to just your environment. i understand why they want to bring together developers, but i'd rather see rails just borrow a lot of merb's performance tweaks and keep merb out of it...
- majglow, on 12/25/2008, -0/+1Which will only be legal in CA?
- finaldarkone, on 12/27/2008, -0/+1That rockstar one's golden!
- ddetina, on 01/01/2009, -0/+1wh00t!
- rowjimmy, on 12/25/2008, -0/+1"In other news: the .Net platform continues to kick the crap out of RoR, PHP, and Merb."
in terms of usage, not in terms of performance/design. a lot of people like britney spears, too, but that doesn't mean her music isn't *****. - lvizon, on 12/24/2008, -1/+2pooswa
- seanmc303, on 12/24/2008, -1/+1syphonist, has a good point. Many people forget that Rails is a framework and not a programming language. Ruby 1.9.1's current benchmarks blow the most current release of PHP out of the water. Rails and Merb are compatible the Ruby 1.9. Rails is at least as fast as any other PHP framework if not more so and I will guarantee that it offers more features than any other PHP framework. The Merb framework can server out many more request per second than just PHP alone. When Merb and Rails come together (supposedly this Spring) it is likely that Rails 3 will be a very formidable framework when it comes to raw performance.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -1/+1YAY world peace! end to poverty!
- mlhshino, on 12/25/2008, -1/+1Good news I thought but I hope Rails will not lose their philosophy.
- inactive, on 12/25/2008, -1/+1"Matt Aimonetti will work on a new evangelism team"..
The evangelism is the most annoying thing about "rails" people. We actually tried to roll out rails at our company, 7000 linux hosts, 1500 of them desktops, about 10gbit sustained network traffic between the hours of 9-5. It failed horribly. - easy111, on 01/05/2009, -0/+0That is a great news.
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