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- Uthman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i havent read the lectures yet, but to the best of my knowledge, google's 'page ranking' formulas, though mathematical in nature, are really just a bunch of weighted percents based on numerious factors. that said, its more of a 'how right i feel this is' formula. regardless - aren't those formulas changed like every few weeks anyways? and i thought google was making great efforts NOT to let the formulas leek (hence why they modify them so often) so that some wise crack can't just go and optimize his page to produce the best ranking easily. If that is so, then how can some guy come in and find error in an opinion formula when the formula isn't even released?
- pfunked, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3geminitojanus,
The point is, there is no ego when math is involved. If PageRank can be improved by using better math, it is a good thing. - jackmaninov, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They're basing their analysis on an initial description of Google's algorithm, but who knows what it has evolved into now. While the analysis seems sound, I don't think there's enough information to justify calling this new algorithm better than Google's, or to be sure that Google hasn't already compensated for the faults that these researchers have found.
- BluParadox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google's algorithm is significantly different than it was when they first came up with it in 1998. I'm not sure how this matters anyway... If you read that paper you'll see that the algorithm isnt really what they are focusing on anyway, it's sorta a side note in talking about their concept for citation based ranking in a web environment and their other goals for google.
- hiro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No digg until Americans can say "maths" properly
- echimu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Comparing it with 1998 algorithm, my question google may have modified 1998 alog with newer one? but anyways it is cool to see such nice work. It is worth to digg it. Instead of all those stupid stories this one is really good hope to see more
- buss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That was a really good read, and an excellent find. I wonder, though, if Google has figured that out since the initial publication? If they have, I'm sure it was a trade secret (until now :P ).
- Uthman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just read the pdfs; lol @ the people who thought that the math level was 'some hardcore incomprehensible-for-a-college-student mathematics'
- meangene, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I, for one, worship our new Israeli Mathematician overlords.
- skytomorrownow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0funny. flawed or not, seems to be working for google... and me.
- cyberscape2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Eh. Maybe his source is weak, but it's still interesting to see how far Google has come.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Lol, and the point of this is? Google is capable of math errors just as Einstein was (and commonly did make).
Grow up. - cadpo76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0TinyURL it: http://www.tinyURL.com
Direct Link: http://tinyurl.com/d5rkc - ossaracd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://newsoftheday.com
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Page rank is really controversial. Did you know that google uses real pegions to get the page rank ?
Yeah real pegions. - drigz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Why didn't you just use a tinyurl?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, despite all this "Google's algorithm is secret" and such, I think it is pretty darn amazing that they were able to figure this all out, and if Google's code is still the same I wonder if they will read this and go "Wow, we're dumb".
+digg - neric, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I think he's trying to get hired. ;-P
- etruscan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0...besides the fact that Google releases updates constantly (Jaeger being the latest batch) - PageRank holds much less weight now than it did even 5 years ago. This paper is not a valid argument for Google having "faults" in their math.
- CadMasterAdam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0think google will look into then implment this new al-gore-rith-um
- slicerace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good article. Definitely dugg it - also, that's awesome that you put the effort into setting up a page to redirect. Great job!
- Bromskloss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0eean writes: "And WTF is wrong with www2 addresses? :S"
Yeah, why are they blocking things? (You're comments still get stripped of their backslashes too.) - robche, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0my maths lecturer spent an entire lecture explaining pagerank to us, i got the notes if anyone is interested... and all he did was say how perfect the system was. cant wait to show him this.
- D4r7h3v1l, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0He wasn't just doing this on his own time, it is his field of work: analyzing algorithms. This is actually the FIRST falce this has ever appeared. I got the link from the man itself. It is not in the media yet, but it was presented to Google, I believe.
- h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh just shut up...
He analyzed an algorithm from the '98 paper published by the Google founders for Backrub. The actual - current - Google algorithm in a secret and there's no way they let this guy look at it just for the purpose of finding flaws in it.
So, in short... no digg. - gab00n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Oh but i thought Google had all these PhD's, looks like they are as dumb as the rest of us.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I have been using this error to get a better pagerank
for years but all good thing come to an end.
- eean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0To person who said "make your own search engine"... you know Google spends like $1 billion a year on infrastructure. Its not something to be done on a whim.
And WTF is wrong with www2 addresses? :S - bribera, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I know they guy is Israeli (and a mathematician to boot), but I was seriously perturbed by the numerous spelling/grammatical errors in that paper.
The content was really great, but that needs some serious editing before anyone will want to publish it. - tomerdean, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1go israelis!
nice digg - gMan2020, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Sergey...oops, I mean geminitojanus, don't worry we still love Google...no reason to get upset.
Anyway, you ask what is the point of this??? Ummm, I could have sworn it was accurately described as an article about a mathematicians discovery of an error in Google's way of doing things. Pretty interesting if you made it out of the 2nd grade, regardless if you really understand it.
So, maybe you should grow up and get out of mommy's basement a little more, eh?
Nice digg. - rohitk55, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0thats some hardcore incomprehensible-for-a-college-student mathematics.
- krembo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0nice one!
if brin has a brain he will surely ask those guys to come work for him. - trivialnobvious, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0He's a mathematicitian. What else is he going to do, something useful :)
- 0x1B, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0One pagerank algorithm, eh? That's pretty funny.
More, I cannot say... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Way too much math for me!!! I actually never realised that a search engine would need this much math.
- Bren, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Anyone else get the "install hebrew language pack"?
Man I hate that. - oldcyborg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0If I were google, I don't believe I would publish the exact method or algorythm(sp), that I had used to make it work so well. Just a tho't....:) Would you? I believe it changes, anyway. It doesn't matter about their math, if we love what we get, when we type stuff in. I remember, years ago, typing something IN google, after a Forbes article, and being absolutey amazed!!! I was thrilled.
I don't give a ***** what the Israelis say. They cause enuff trouble as it is....... JUST my OPIONION.....
Cyborg
na - ptknight, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1www2 links are very geeky
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0hmm no pdfs...
no digg - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0israel is so cool :)
good find +DIGG - laughterkillsme, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0silly jews.
- scaaven2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0maybe this guy should make his own search engine since google is so crappy... seriously this guy has too much time on his hands.
- tweeto, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Go Israel!
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