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- 501337, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31Website speed test - http://www.vertain.com/?sst
URL: http://www.digg.com
Speed: 4.84 sec (see details below)
Compare to: 2.79 sec (our current benchmark average).
If Digg ever starts selling anything, count me out. - arrenlex, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26This doesn't really apply anymore -- tabbed browsing means users typically middle-click several results, and by the time they've clicked the last item in their list, the first has long since loaded, and by the time they get to the last tab it in turn has long since loaded.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21@iamcitizen
No keven needs to strip out 200KB+ non cacheable css and images per page. - dave_colorado, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18hahah...
and akamai has absolutely NO conflict of interest with the speed of your webpages loading - milomilomilo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16i actually had no idea middle clicking opened a link in a new tab, I've always right click>open in new tab.
thanks man, learned something new. - xtr3m, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Not entirely correct. I believe the majority of web users are yet to discover the wonders of tabs and IE7 might help with it.
- MoneyShot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11The fact that their homepage loads so quickly is rather meaningless.
What impresses me is that they are able to search an index of over *25 billion* webpages in matter of about 1/10 of a second--and they do it millions of times a day. As a DB developer, that blows my mind. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@lazydrumhead:
Same here. Digg loads in 5-7 seconds for me, on a 5Mb/s connection.
Kevin, you guys need some more servers :( - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Did you know akamai is a hawaiian word?
Aloha - dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Digg is actually quite slow for me no matter what connection I'm on. In fact, it actually took close to 15 seconds for this page to load. Refreshing the comments page seems to always take forever.
- MoneyShot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Just because it helps with their sales doesn't mean that it's automatically incorrect. I'm sure seat belt manufacturers have done studies and proven that seat belts save lives. Does that automatically mean their conclusions are worthless?
Of course the axiom "consider the source" always should be kept in mind, but you also have to apply a critical mind to first *what* the source is saying. Examine the evidence, not the motivations. If it's solid research, it should speak for itself. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hey man, how about we all block your spamming ass?
- crumbelievable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5good thing digg ain't retail. 20.2 seconds is a small price to pay for my digg addiction.
- javip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@crapapi
I think the fact that he's being dugg up and you're being dugg down should answer your question =) - Renton, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Digg takes over 10 seconds to get to the main page in firefox.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4the rule we followed at ZDnet was 2 clicks and 5 seconds. In those two clicks, the user needs to at least think that they're on the right track or they're gone, and our traffic statistics supported that.
- cwalk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I completely agree with dave_colorado. This article almost seems like covert spam. They tell you that you need to speed up your website, and then discretely mention that "Akamai® is the leading global service provider for accelerating content and business processes online."
- cds0528, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Funny, Digg took 20.2 seconds to load (according to fasterfox) and the page this story is on took 2.7 seconds to load...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Jupiter Media load their pages with so much advertising you're looking at far in excess of 4 seconds just to queue all the different images/scripts/etc for their crap.
For example: http://www.flashkit.com
I'm highly sceptical of this "4 second rule". Google's the only site I use that takes less than 4 seconds to load. Amazon and eBay don't seem to be affected by it, and I think they're in a better position to judge reactions than Jupiter Media who specialise in aquiring popular sites and then ad-raping them. - Porchman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3While not everyone has heard of tabbed browsing there is a reason it came about. I used to open up several browser windows in the days of dial up so I could read one page while another loaded. I'm patient enough to let a page load but if I can't find what I'm looking for on a page in a short amount of time I'll go back to my search engine results.
- Vitius, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6If someone can't read your article in under a minute, kiss your readers goodbye. (otherwise I guess it was well written)
- slashdotislame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Pass anyway, there are what 100 digg clones?
- bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3there's def a conflict of interest here but there probably is also a lot of truth to the study.
- spling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hah! Tell that one to Blizzard Entertainment, Inc.
- jcapogna, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Thats because you have no traffic.
- rspeed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ nreynolds
Uh... actually, raisin is a French word. I wouldn't be surprised if they got it from Latin. So what's your point? - bluebri, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@TheFamousGuy
Your site scares me. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I still think google is the fastest loading page EVER.
- pvtjohndoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Though it's not a retail site, I think Digg is an exception to the 4-second rule. It takes between 6 and 10 second for each Digg page to load on my PC...but I'm still here.
- ogletree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have friends I have tried to get to read Digg but they won't because it is way too slow. I personally have never had a problem. I just have normal old time warner. Sites like digg and the other examples can still grow but they will lose readers because of slowness. Imagine how bigg digg would be if it loaded like google.
- DuoPros, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3OpenDNS.org
Makes everything load in about 2 seconds. - brownspank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If your article has more than one page, kiss your readers goodbye.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3customers, not visitors
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digg is a pain in the arse with it's load times. And I hope someone from Digg is reading this. The servers and connection are fast - it's their page engineering that's the problem. They need to put in place a method for digging up/down and commenting that does not require 10-second page load times and my browser making LOADS of connections to the server.
If the site weren't Digg and thus the content had a high value to me, I would sure have passed on it long ago because of the ***** performance. SORT IT OUT!! - TheSalmonThief, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Just keep clicking the button and move your finger around on the trackpad, it makes the page load faster.
- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@dave_colorado - "and akamai has absolutely NO conflict of interest with the speed of your webpages loading"
Exactly what I was thinking. These folks sell services to help speed up web sites. Of course they would say that speed matters. REPORTED AS SPAM.
They're right -- to a point -- but I think it's much higher than 4 seconds. My wife, my mom, my aunt -- they all buy tons of stuff online, and they would wait a full minute before abandoning the site.
This article is crap. - L0t3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
I was wondering how many Fasterfox references I'd see.
This page: 5.4 seconds
Amazon: Just shy of 12
Apparently 4 seconds isn't a real solid figure. ;) - hrdcregmer808, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2took 6.470s for me according to faster fox
- dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Digg is slow because its advertisers are slow and the site is coded in a way that makes it wait for the advertiser's servers before it loads the entire page. Watch the status bar the next time you load a digg page.
- DigeratiPrime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think digg is slow due to all the javascript that is used. If I disable it with NoScript it loads much faster, only downside it I cannot digg/bury.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2dusty...so that site is saying that the average page should take 2 1/2 minutes to load on a residential DSL connection?
- MoneyShot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Even the largest JS libraries I use are tiny compared to even a moderately sized image; prototype, for example, is only 16k. My advice is to optimize your images a bit tighter (or eliminate some of them) before you start ditching libraries. They're just too handy.
- jeffreym, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That includes digg.com?
- worxman02, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just started using OpenDNS and I loaded Digg in 2.19 secs according to thats speed test. Link to results: http://www.vertain.com/m.q?req=cstr&reqid=d9yDBqsA
URL: http://digg.com
Speed: 2.19 sec (see details below)
Compare to: 2.79 sec (our current benchmark average). - bobbygeorgina, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree, it takes a long time for some websites to load.
Digg takes an awful long time to load in Firefox, it is a bit quicker in Opera though.
Personally I think Firefox takes WAY TOO long to open in the first place...I launch the program and it takes 6 or more seconds to open (which is longer for me than many other programs). - I have Photoshop CS2 starting in under 10 seconds, Adobe AfterEffects starting in under 10 seconds, Opera starting in about 2 seconds, etc. When you think about it Photoshop should take a lot longer to load...at least you would think so, considering all that it is doing (loading fonts, etc); it is sad that Photoshop only takes a few seconds longer to open than Firefox (for me).
Back on topic, I actually switched service providers for hosting my domains...hoping to get faster loading times for my visitors. - briansalo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pfft... back in my day, we had to wait 20 seconds... we only had 56k and we liked it...
- traherom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@Xilon
Get a new freakin' browser then... works fine for me under Firefox and Opera. - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well I read Digg still, and sometimes it takes FOREVER to load. I can't stop though, I'm addicted.
- Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hell Digg needs to totally re-design their website. It's got way too many images, stylesheets and javascripts (too many HTTP requests), and the vast amounts of ads are just beating it on the ground. Also the javascript for showing buried comments doesn't work under Linux :P
- bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"akamai has nothing to do with this topic at all."
they have everything to do with it, since the likely reason why Akamai even published this was to raise awareness of their service. -
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