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- peestandingup, on 04/01/2009, -3/+169Whats that you say, Hulu? You want me to go back to torrenting all your movies & shows?? Well, alrighty then.
- BossKey, on 04/01/2009, -5/+170Gotta give them points for persistence. If they try hard enough to drive away their audience, one day they will succeed.
- GameMogul, on 04/01/2009, -1/+138In other news, Hulu is now incompatible with IE 5, 6, and 7 and Firefox 1.5 for no apparent reason.
Opera users report no change as Hulu was broken in the first place. - coheedcollapse, on 04/01/2009, -1/+84I really wish all of the media companies would get together and realize that the easier it is for us to get their programs legally and freely, the less likely we are to pirate it.
- Oinkie, on 04/01/2009, -8/+86idiots.
- RoboDonut, on 04/01/2009, -2/+55I don't even know what to say. This is either some sort of elaborate ruse, or they've got a horrible misunderstanding of basic cryptography. Either way, they're full of *****.
HTML is plaintext. Javascript is plaintext. At some level, the browser needs to see real code, and it needs the keys to decrypt all the content. They aren't working within a black box. They're working with a set of standards which was designed to be as open and inter-operable as possible. It is fundamentally impossible to completely secure web content.
This is going to go the same way DRM went; they'll waste an obscene amount of resources trying to stay one step ahead of the hackers, then they'll finally give up and accept that they can't control everything. - billessig, on 04/01/2009, -1/+33Yea, creative. Until now very few (read: no one) did this but malware authors.
- Paulish, on 04/01/2009, -10/+36We have to remember that this is not completely Hulu's fault. They are just the tech side of things. It is the companies that own the rights to the content that keep pushing for this sort of *****. I bet the programmers at Hulu are just as annoyed as everyone else.
- OutsideofDreams, on 04/01/2009, -5/+31Go back? Who says we ever stopped!
- OutsideofDreams, on 04/01/2009, -0/+23Shhhh....they may hear your common sense!
- whimmel, on 04/01/2009, -1/+24We have to remember that Hulu is a joint venture of NBC and Fox.
- babylonian, on 04/02/2009, -1/+22It's important to know that they aren't doing this because they WANT to. They're doing it because they have to because providers have threatened to pull their content from Hulu completely:
http://blog.hulu.com/2009/2/18/doing-hard-things
It's at least nice to know that Hulu acknowledges what people want and are striving actively to attain it. If blame needs to be placed somewhere, it should be on content providers, not on Hulu. - inactive, on 04/01/2009, -8/+29butt holes
- microbreak, on 04/01/2009, -1/+21Boxee does not bypass ads on Hulu.
- ThantiK, on 04/01/2009, -2/+21They DO realize all Boxee/etc. have to do is embed a browser in their video player and spoof the headers right?
Firefox even has an application called Prism that basically does almost this exact same thing except it's basically a borderless, specific website "webapp"...
On that note: I'm actually no longer able to watch Hulu on my EEE 900a because of whatever hulu is doing. I mean I *can* watch it...if I like watching slideshows. I used to be able to do full screen anything in hulu just fine until a couple months ago - something they are doing is REALLY increasing the processor intensiveness of it all and ruining it for me =/ - chuckstudios, on 04/02/2009, -0/+18I wondered how many comments it would take before someone noticed the obvious...
- phoomp, on 04/02/2009, -0/+17For the convenience of being able to watch it when I want to watch it.
Serious return question: if you're giving away media for free, why do you care how people watch it? - amoore2600, on 04/02/2009, -0/+16This isn't a creative way to keep their video secure.... its just plain stupid. The truth about the Internet is, if you put something on it, it will be used, view, stolen, and remixed by many different devices and users.
- m4csrgh3yk3v, on 04/02/2009, -0/+15Piss off the whole world except U.S
Piss off the U.S. with DRM
Publicly placate dinosaur content providers who are almost universally hated
Cripple your future by being contractually bound to a dead business model
Restrict viewership
Who's awesome? You're awesome! - coheedcollapse, on 04/01/2009, -0/+12Free for some people means different things. I, for one, am willing to put up with commercials to legally view shows online at any time that I want. Some people aren't because they obviously value their time far more than I do.
Another explanation could be ease of use. This story adds upon the fact that Hulu removed their streams from Boxee by encrypting on top of that to prevent other programs from doing the same in the future. Hulu's move to remove their functionality out of outside programs completely eliminates the ease-of-use factor for those with Media PC's since instead of navigating to Hulu inside of whatever program that they run on their box (Boxee being one of them), they have to close out of the program, navigate to Hulu, and watch stuff from there. - carlosos, on 04/02/2009, -0/+12Hulu is in the bad position because not only providers can threaten to pull content but the providers own Hulu and can just shut it down whenever they want.
- fuzzybad, on 04/02/2009, -0/+11Why does Hulu even bother, Boxee will just update to work around the problem. All this does is cause issues with legitimate users with non-mainstream browsers.
By the way, I just watched a Daily Show clip on Hulu with the PS3 browser. Seems to still work fine. - willywalloo, on 04/01/2009, -3/+13when are they gonna learn that encryption is just a never-ending battle. ID10T error. CeOs are really dumb people when you think about it.
- Lagstorm, on 04/02/2009, -1/+10loose
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/loose
LOSE
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lose
for *****'s sake! :) - rolosworld, on 04/02/2009, -1/+10This is what happens if the decryption fails:
http://imgur.com/DKHTU.png - nmanguy, on 04/01/2009, -1/+10What's stopping Boxee from just using an automated Firefox browser to browse Hulu?
- Zyphron, on 04/02/2009, -0/+8Hulu lately has been encouraging people to go that route. I ended up DLing the BSG finale (second part) because Hulu decided to wait a week (for no good reason) to put it up. All they are doing is damaging what was a fairly good image, and encouraging people to download. I REALLY wish they would get that.
- Stavrosian, on 04/02/2009, -0/+8I might have done if I'd ever had access to Hulu in the first place. As it is, no skin off my unwelcome, un-American nose.
- dcwp, on 04/01/2009, -0/+7As I understand it, the problem for the content providers is 1) they get less ad revenue from Hulu than actual TV and 2) Hulu doesn't include any local advertising. As much as I dislike it, I see their logic.
But...
What if Hulu provided a separate unencrypted stream with a usable API that included more ads than the regular site? I'd be willing to watch the regular amount of ads if it meant that I could do it without leaving my HTPC interface and using my remote control. It would be like on-demand plus ads for those times I forget to watch or DVR something. - nugx, on 04/02/2009, -1/+8Yeah, no one's ever gonna get around that insane JS security.
- nextekcarl, on 04/02/2009, -0/+7They are actually owned by NBC and FOX, so they can't say no. They have no power here. The networks have all the power in this case.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/business/media/2 ... - SpaceRibs, on 04/02/2009, -1/+8Remember when cable was commercial free? You were paying for a line from a service provider, so really you are paying double.
Now split that business model in half, do you think that anyone is happy about this situation other than customers and Hulu?
If I could, I would drop Comcast in a heartbeat if FiOS was in my area. - hartley, on 04/02/2009, -0/+7I don't understand the point. Theres no additional ads on the site besides whats in the videos. They can easily still see the true numbers of viewers despite what program is using it. And for those who use ad blockers on the site, you get screwed a little more in the fact that ALL ads automatically become 30 seconds, instead of the often 15 second format.
So why don't they want to expand their user base? - fryguy1013, on 04/02/2009, -0/+6It's not like anyone needs to 'crack' the encryption. Simply run the javascript code (probably using a browser), and then navigate the DOM afterwards.
- fotoman607, on 04/02/2009, -2/+8good idea hulu...encrypt your data with a language that anybody can see by selecting "view source"
idiots - Khast, on 04/01/2009, -1/+7Only going to be a matter of time before someone cracks the encryption. It is just like DRM the companies always think they are ahead, but they realize after the product is out, that in the long run, it didn't do a damn bit of good.
- MrFaldyn, on 04/01/2009, -4/+10I wonder if the PS3 browser will be affected.
- nepidae, on 04/01/2009, -1/+6Its going to be the same ***** as the video game industry. Hulu and the like are going to get so invasive as to install root kits to be able to see content legally. Pirating will again be more convenient and a superior product. They realize (partially through legal action) that perhaps they shouldn't have done that but blame the loss of sales on something besides them destroying themselves.
- Atomic1fire, on 04/02/2009, -1/+6do something else for 15 seconds
- wh3873, on 04/02/2009, -0/+5Just got done watching Hulu on my TV, but I just take it out of my S-video jack so I'm good to go.
I love Hulu, it sucks that such a great product is getting ***** up by people outside the operation forcing their hand.
On a related note I love the option I sometimes get of watching a 1 min or 2 min ad before the show and no ads during. - SpaceRibs, on 04/02/2009, -0/+5Let 'em fail, all the other content industries are in CPR mode and if they don't get the point, the result of pulling TV content from legitimate streaming will illustrate far better than a rant in a digg comment (or for that matter, the ownage that boxee is delivering).
- Jezon, on 04/02/2009, -0/+5I wish Hulu allowed the whole show to be cached, its real annoying to get paused because of some lag spike. If I wanted a video rip of the shows, I would have gone for a higher quality torrent without the watermarks...
- twoboxen, on 04/02/2009, -0/+4yeah, just like the RIAA/MPAA did...
- dtfinch, on 04/02/2009, -0/+4Worked for me. I never watch Hulu.
- microbreak, on 04/01/2009, -1/+5Hulu videos on Boxee play ads. Boxee does not disable ads in Hulu.
- RoboDonut, on 04/01/2009, -2/+6They could have worked out a deal with Boxee to leave ads in. That way they get what they want and we get what we want.
If the content providers won't help out, then the users will find their own way
...and the users aren't quite as fond of advertisements... - dumbboys, on 04/02/2009, -3/+6Hulu Sucks anyway. They haven't a clue what they are doing? And who's surprised, THEY ARE THE NETWORKS! It's not like Hulu is some magical third party, it's a joint venture between NBC and FOX! Two of the stupidest asshats on the tube. If I wanted to wait until NEXT week to watch the show I missed, because some network idiot decided to move it to yet another night and time, or something else bumped the time slot, I'd Tivo it. I don't want to be a week behind every time I watch a show. So now if I miss it (since I don't have Tivo, or cable TV for that matter, tired of paying for commercials), I wait until it's over and within an hour I download it commercial free from... wait for it...
BitTorrent FTW! - SpoonMSU, on 04/02/2009, -0/+3"If you want ads, embed it in the video stream."
They do that there already chief. - RoboDonut, on 04/01/2009, -0/+3Advertisers go where the viewers are. If the viewers move to the internet, then the advertisers will follow. This is purely a case of business people not keeping up with technology.
- Yggdrasil, on 04/02/2009, -0/+3My quick and dirty. ;x
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/01/hulu-begins-enc ... -
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