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- GaryKing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8You guys DO know that Fasterfox themselves already tell you how to do this, right?
http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/faq.html#Im_a_webmaster,_how_can_I_prevent_prefetching - xpgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Wow some people just have no morals.
"Anyone know where I can perhaps find a cracked/modified version of Fasterfox that has this particular "feature" removed? Otherwise I will just have to find another web accelerator which prefetches even more heavily than Fasterfox I suppose."
"I dun know about you webmasters, but i prefer my performance UNABRIDGED on your site or any other site.
Just downgraded to 1.0.0, last version before the robots check."
If every person on the internet were like you two indeed every site that can't afford to pay for huge bandwidth limits would slow to a crawl. - CritterNYC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5FasterFox is selfish and abusive. Period. It's abusive in that it kills dynamicly-generated sites. On one of my sites, for instance, a single page view with FasterFox enabled results in 54 page downloads. Each of which is dynamic. So EVERY other user of the site is slowed down so that FasterFox user can be selfish and suck that bandwidth and CPU time for themselves. With a few more FasterFox users, the site can slow to a crawl. And they're also consuming many times the bandwidth of a normal user.
There are a couple Apache modules and other things being developed to kill off these server-raping "accelerators". Many are behavior-based... not based on any useragent string. If they see multiple requests for pages from you in a given timeframe, you're automatically cut off. Some are even doing a staged process... temporary block the first time with a warning message saying to stop abusing the server... permanent block the next time. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3next up, how to configure fasterfox to get around blocking...
- diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The real way to speed up firefox: http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000803024910/
- fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's not bandwidth you should worry about: it's the additional cpu usage that fasterfox pulls.
Each user with 15 odd simultaneous connections x 50 users at a time and your site'll get killed by the majority of hosts. ;)
Simple enough. It's something I have to worry about daily as my company host's large dynamic sites like www.e107.org. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1any1 know how many extra links fasterfox actually tries to prefetch? bandwith useage has gone up on mine, but idk if this is the cause. about 45% of my vistors are firefox users. how do i know if they are using fasterfox and how much extra bandwith its causing to loose
- peerk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Just so you know, and clowns are arguing...
I paid < $10 for the ENTIRE year (not monthly) for 1TB transfer /month, 20GB storage, 6000 email accounts, AND a free domain.
And yes, the hosting is fast."
That's called overselling and praying none of your users will use 1/10 of the resources "provided".
Same with all these sites that die with 20 diggs. Sometimes you do get what you pay for. - znxster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why the utility is defaulted to "Turbo Charged" .. this is the reason behind its bad rep. If more users set it lower then most of the issues would be gone..
Oh and the "hackaday" link.. these are settings that FasterFox enables.. you just need to know how to use it... - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I blocked Fasterfox on my site just because those people using it make tons of worthless entries in my referrer logs. Bandwidth is not the issue, people pulling down things that they're not actually looking at is.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+110 diggs in 10 mins, people must hate FASTERFOX
- xpgeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Good tip. Dugg. I for one hate the fasterfox extension, that prefetches something like 300 links on a page if it can. Good for the user, total raping of a sites bandwidth for the host.
- pacificdave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Fasterfox Rocks!
- mhl12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> The real way to speed up firefox: http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000803024910/
fasterfox does exactly that and more. - humanzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Alright, before we start a jihad and begin smashing all the thinking machines... just use the Tweak Network extension. It appears to be the same as Fasterfox, but without the server raping:
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=327&application=firefox - fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1h2d2,
Keep your affiliate links elsewhere. :p - drphilngood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't use it due to the security implications. Many sites I visit link to pages that I wouldn't trust to connect to.
- spikes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use Fasterfox but I never did use the prefetching feature as I don't really see any point to it.
- CritterNYC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Raithmir: Lots of .html web pages are actually dynamic pages thanks to the wonders of .htaccess. Many content management systems either use a fake .html for the addresses or they have no extensions.
- MarkByers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's quite unfair to call people selfish and abusive for simply helping other people make their browsing faster. That hatred should be targetted to the users of the extension.
- expotice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0if you are paying more than $0.10 a gigabyte you're getting ripped off...
- fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0illynova,
2 gigabytes a day is still quite a bit though :) lots to toy around with.
I have a nice steady 10Mbps for myself BGP'd on level3/at&t/savvis/nlayer and a few smaller providers -- expensive but amazing for hosting sites. :) - Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well I guess if your site/blog is actually worth visiting, then those prefetched links will eventually be used....
So I guess this is more of a tutorial on how to give a sense of relief to those who have crappy websites, and expensive hosting. - talmand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have fasterfox but I do not have prefetching turned on simply because I don't assume I will follow every link on a page I visit. Plus I have broadband, how much faster does a page need to load?
- Ethan1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0u people suck there will be a way around it anyway
- pigdart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A month ago i looked at the code to fasterfox and it also does not prefetch links with "?" eg dynamic urls or links with "logout" if i remember right. Also someone somewhere is making a apache module to auto detect and ban fasterfox users with some sort of warning message, but I think thats going a little too far. It your site though.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i use fasterfox, but i dont have prefetch turned on. i think its pretty useless to download pages that you may or may not even visit, let alone RAPE the server of the website you are visiting.
please guys, goto your options and shut prefetch off. - DKDiveDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Added the block text in robots.txt on all my 33 websites. Up yours Fasterfox!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0did they just add this or what!!! i was looking for something of this sort. i only get about 5GB per month and since more firefox users with fasterfox are visting it its killing my bandwidth. i hate fasterfox!!! i hope this will ease my server.
- JulianMorrison, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I use fasterfox in "courteous" mode, prefetch off. Not that I have any objection to causing site owners to suffer, but neither do I need the bandwidth and open-sockets drain on my own ADSL. Remember, on an asynchronous line, TCP acks have to compete with whatever else you're uploading.
- BladeMelbourne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This wont stop prefetching, it may reduce it however. No Digg.
FireFox, Mozilla Application Suite and Seamonkey all have options to "Prefetch web pages when idle."
network.prefetch-next = true - and Fasterfox does not form part of the user agent. - guhappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0diggnationdevon that hackaday link is great. thx.
- MKmultimedia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How can you tell if someone has fasterfox who has been to your site?
- urbn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Question: I don't use firefox so I don't know much about it, but if you can set firefox to request each page on visit, does this mean with fasterfox every time you visit a new page it will request every page on every link on each visit?
Even if it doesn't do this what inconsiderate bastard thought fasterfox was a good idea, and ever more important who decided to put it into the browser. This is why browsers cache pages on request, I would guess at least 90% of most pages on a site would not even be viewed by a user.
Fasterfox is inconsiderate to the person hosting the site, and other uses that are viewing the site. - Zukunft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I used to use fasterfox before I knew about the stress it put on the servers. I also liked it for the page load timer, but now I'm fasterfox free.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Chucklz
when there is a will there is a way - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i use fasterfox only for the pageload timer. if i set it in turbocharged mode, it seems to take longer to load every page...
according to the timer... - trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well isn't this counter-productive. I just won't use prefetching, not sure if camino even does that though.
- PayneX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I removed fasterfox because i've seen it screw up several browsers, and the prefetching concerns me a bit.
However, it's quite unfair to call people selfish and abusive for simply trying to make their browsing faster.
That hatred should be targetted to the creators of the extension.
Also, any word on how Google Web Accelerator affects websites? - terminalpariah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What's wrong with FasterFox? Just set it to Optimized and it doesn't prefetch.
- thewhitefedora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ DiggNazi2
I use opera along side firefox and in the tools menu under opera you can choose whether you want it to use the IE engine or the Firefox engine - peerk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I use opera along side firefox and in the tools menu under opera you can choose whether you want it to use the IE engine or the Firefox engine"
That simply changes the user-agent string!
Think of it like this. When a website says "Mr. web Browser, what is your name?" Opera can say three things.
Opera
Mozilla
Internet Explorer
This is useful because some websites have code like(obviously this is pseudo code)
IF web_browser = "internet explorer"
display webpage
ELSE
display IE only message - DKDiveDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"@ DiggNazi2
I use opera along side firefox and in the tools menu under opera you can choose whether you want it to use the IE engine or the Firefox engine
posted by thewhitefedora (0) at 08:30 AM 2/18/06"
Don't you mean "identify as"? According to my knowledge Opera always uses their own engine, but can be set to identify as Internet Explorer or as Mozilla, which may help render some pages who check for browsers - Echilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kind of ironic, utility made to speed up web browing by leeching bandwidth, people find trick to stop utility.
- jo42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A great bit :goatse: to the wankers that wrote Fasterfox.
- Raithmir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A. Prefetching in fasterfox is disabled by default
B. It only prefetches links to .htm or .html files (not asp, php, shtml, or even ".htm?a=1" type links etc. etc.). So the person complaining about it using up all his bandwidth on his "dynamic site" is talking out of his ass.
I don't see what the big deal is with it. It's great for people stuck on dial-up (me!). - Web_Weasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Enhanced link prefetching is off by default in the current Fasterfox (1.0.3).
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