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- killinger777, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*****
- Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14It's still used actively by the scientific community. The libraries for scientific and mathematic computing are extensive, and heavily optimized.
- technogenius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13It's still used and maintained in a lot of legacy code
- lemac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Related to this, do you guys remember the "Hello World" program? First thing we did learning most of the languages...this site shows the "Hello World" program written in most languages:
http://www2.latech.edu/~acm/HelloWorld.shtml
Brings back a lot of memories for dinosaurs like me. - dlsspy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13It's not terribly hard. There are just a few roots. If you can get compilers, you can learn lots. Learning stuff that's further to the left helps you learn stuff further to the right.
For example, if you know lisp, understanding scheme wouldn't be too hard. If you know smalltalk and C, understanding objective C will be easy. Of course, if you know smalltalk, understanding java or c++ might be harder in a ``wtf were they thinking'' sort of way.
It'd be fun to take something like this and mark areas in which I've built useful projects. - trollick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11A good FORTRAN programmer can write FORTRAN code in any language
- chanapai, on 10/12/2007, -17/+27How could anyone ever learn all those languages?
- tomhung, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The History of Programming Languages - O'Reilly
http://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/news/languageposter_0504.html
http://www.oreilly.com/news/graphics/prog_lang_poster.pdf - jhaitas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9i work in a neuroscience lab at vanderbilt university and fortran is very much still around... i had to teach myself fortran for an analysis i am a part of developing... it's pretty much limited to the scientific community
- bflfab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I still use it almost every day. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
- 4ArmedDeath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Oh, they have programming on computers now...
- Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Brainfork allows threading!
- staplez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Why does VB.NET just die?
It got updated with the 2.0 and 3.0 .NET frameworks. I'm confused. - eth3l, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10No idea why you got Dugg down, valid question.
- darkstar949, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Scan or it didn't happen?
- stratdog25, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5no, K is there, at 1996 on the 6th line down. I didnt see G though (graphical Language used by LabVIEW). For that matter, where is the binary language used by moisture vaporators??? And for that matter, does anyone speak Bocce????
:) - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Considering it's my life's work, I reserve the right to not be incredibly bored by computer science.
Hope you don't mind, or anything. :P - aaronm67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What about the classic whitespace?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language) - DavidDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It is there, it just gets lost.
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"""I'm sorry but refuse to acknowledge anything of basic as a language."""
Nonsense. Basic was useful for what it was in its day, a beginners' language - many god-programmers learned using basic initially, and there was no reason at the time for people to feel a need to do OOP (not that there wasn't OOP, because there was ;) ) when learning a HLL. It also had very little resemblance to "Visual Basic" type stuff you get today - in terms of developing in it or the programs produced anyway.
There were many many good programs written in as little as a Kb of basic (and other such languages of the day you probably also consider crappy) - some of those by kids - now I'm not saying basic is a language I would recommend to anyone, but being a snob about it now just shows a lack of understanding of today's programming heritage. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There are really only a few basic language types: functional (Lisp, Prolog), procedural (FORTRAN, BASIC, machine/assembly), procedural/structured (Algol, Pascal, C), procedural/object (C++, Smalltalk), and whatever I forgot (it's been awhile). You aren't a real computer scientist if you can't pick one up in a couple of weeks after knowing the basic types.
- cdlavalle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There are a few projects working on languages that can take on FORTRAN's mantle as the defacto scientific language. Fortress by Sun is one particularly strong candidate.
- paulmalenke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I learned basic on QBasic, which was way better than when I started using Basic before then, 10, 20, 30, 40 ***** I forgot to put that in, better go back to 35 now. QBasic had way better programming structure and had a better editor, I think it needs to be on the list
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6hrmmm, that BASIC line seems lacking ... where's GW-BASIC? BASICA? QBasic?
- ArchdukeValidus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Plankalkül is missing, though that language is from the 1940's.
- Ademan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's a joke about the messy style.
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3psssh, who needs renum, if you label 100, 200, 300 etc. you have PLENTY of room to insert additional lines without renumbering :P (yes, this is sarcasm. not to say I never did it.)
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"I'm sorry but refuse to acknowledge anything of basic as a language. Its just for noob high school students and old macros viri"
The air must be pretty thin up there on snob mountain. - rmxz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Some relativly major ones (at least in commercial use today) are missing.
* The K language - used by most major financial solutions (www.kx.com)
* SPSS, R, and other statistical languages.
If there's any language I think programmers should familiarize themselves with even over LISP, it'd be the K language - never before have I seen a language that lets you do so much with so little code. JP Morgan, Merrill Lynch, Lehman, Fidelity, etc all depend on it. It's like using a bulldozer instead of a shovel.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2002/11/14/22741/791
- mikelostcause, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Missing my favorite - J++ (joking)
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed. It wasn't OO, but it handled procedural a lot better -- with labels and subroutines -- than good ole GOTOs.
- darkstar949, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because not much has changed in the fundamental language - the .NET libraries are just adding more include-able functions.
- Ma8e, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Those graphs look much better.
- AnthonyA7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have to use FORTRAN for my engineering classes... pretty annoying especially when I could use MATLAB or even C++.
- simpleid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+299% of them are actually all the same thing, just a different 'candy wrapper.'
It's really the language-specific features that separates them. One could competently write software in any language if you understand all the underlying logic and be able to interpret the symbols/syntax. You'll quickly discover all languages share the essential elements from which anything can be created. The features/libraries naturally provided are only there for convenience or better performance, other then that it's all redundant. - mdmadph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeah, sure -- we'll whip that right up for you.
- paulmalenke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I love it! You can go from BASIC to Visual Basic, They missed all the steps in between, they go from the worst version of BASIC to OOP.
- eoliveri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think that it's not as much a joke about messy Fortran style than it is a joke about how some programmers continue to write programs in the style of the first programming language that they've learned, in all subsequent languages that they learn. For example, writing FOR loops in APL.
- apoc2050, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Pretty good, see some missing though.
- JernejL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3it has no FPC pascal compiler, marked as inaccurate.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why does PHP 4 and 5 seperate into 2 distinct lines?
- Outdoor83, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Where's Zuse's Plankalkul? That predates all of this.
- cdlavalle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3There are a lot missing like D, COBOL, ABAP etc,etc, Although in thier defense it would be difficult to amp out ALL of the programming languages but you would think they could make room for some more of the most used today. http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Thank god for the RENUM command
- chuckbo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because except for the ability to visually put objects on a page and reference them, the rest of the VB was the same as the old BASIC language. I was able to use VB from day 1 because I'd been an old Applesoft programmer (also a Microsoft version of BASIC), and all of the old file commands were still the same in VB.
- TehDoctor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just sent a submission for D to them....
- addicted68098, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It looks really cool when you zoom out alot.
- mhuggins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the lack of QBasic. :) I also didn't see GWBasic, though I didn't use it myself.
- tybris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"starting with Fortran!"
Marked inaccurate - prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Hey, I live on snob mountain!
I can't :q! you. -
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