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- jrm125, on 05/28/2009, -5/+144I realize the world is constantly getting more wired...but isn't it still realistic to think a stand-alone OS is still necessary and just nice to have when the net isn't available?
- Nephersir7, on 05/28/2009, -2/+108It has more potential as a Flash/Silverlight killer. HTML5 opens the possibility of open video codecs and players that look and work as well as Flash-based ones. Wikipedia, DailyMotion and the Internet Archive have already commited to make the switch.
Mozilla blog post about it: http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2009/05/27/dailymotio ...
Open video would be great, but it seems companies like Apple and Nokia dont want this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Html5#Ogg_controversy - inactive, on 05/28/2009, -3/+87Actually a good question in this case. It exposes well how nonsensical the title is.
- Handonam, on 05/28/2009, -49/+123But will it run Crysis?
- inactive, on 05/28/2009, -2/+60Running CS4 and 3DsMAX on firefox ought to be fun.
- commentbot, on 05/28/2009, -7/+52Yeah...Right...Will it replace my DVBViewer? Will it replace Sony Vegas? If they're talking about web apps, that's alright, as long as it's a lightweight app such as a webmail. When it's more bloated such as a web office suite, no thanks, I prefer a desktop app.
- Headinawheel, on 05/28/2009, -7/+41Yeah, and every person on the internet has near infinite bandwidth / bandwidth caps, right?
Sorry, the OS matters. And, when vulnerabilities pop up - and they will; it would just be THAT much worse when you use everything from a Web based system instead of an OS based platform. - LANjackal, on 05/28/2009, -5/+38Chill out, Coursey. Browsers still require OSes to run, and not only do those browsers not have the same features, they're not available on all OSes either. NOTHING will kill the OS for as long as we use electronic devices. HTML5 will make it easier to write web apps for browsers as opposed to platforms, but that doesn't mean OSes will cease to exist. The headline is just nonsense. Buried.
- Subduction, on 05/28/2009, -2/+34NO! APPS WILL RUN IN HTML AND BROWSERS WILL RUN IN BIOS AND BIOS WILL RUN ON BABY LAUGHS AND CARAMEL!!!
- BenRT, on 05/28/2009, -8/+36"offering the ability to run applications regardless of the underlying operating system"
Don't think so... - inactive, on 05/28/2009, -6/+32If by OS killer, you mean really-cheap-and-easy-app-killer, like ***** notepad or even a spreadsheet... then sure. Maybe. But no, not really.
- MrViklund, on 05/28/2009, -6/+32The most stupid statement ever.
- costumemaker, on 05/28/2009, -5/+27I personally prefer ***** notepad over the standard notepad that comes with windows. ***** notepad has just a few more upgrades, but the text goatse splash screen is what really sells it for me.
- AngelBunny, on 05/28/2009, -1/+23i want this piss of a joke to die so bad but unfortunately that is a legit question.
*grumbles and diggs you up* - DaffyDuck, on 05/29/2009, -0/+18Easy. There will be tags that tell the hardware how to work.
<memory>
<CPU>
etc.
(sarcasm) - pw378, on 05/29/2009, -0/+17http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/
- wejmahtin, on 05/28/2009, -0/+16Yeah I was kinda shocked myself. Cool that HTML 5 will replace the need to communicate with my computer's peripherals and network devices and be able to manage my file systems and their respective caches...
- JQP123, on 05/28/2009, -1/+17An operating system of some kind is still required to run a browser. But it's possible that many users may not know or really care what it is, only that it works. And an operating system will always be required on the servers that are providing the content and applications to the browser. An operating system will be desired (or required) by anyone doing compute intensive tasks such as gaming, 3-D graphics, CAD, etc..
All things considered, operating systems will probably never go away but they could lose much of their ubiquity and significance in my opinion. The "year of Linux on the desktop" may finally happen ... once a significant percentage of users no longer care. - macslut, on 05/28/2009, -0/+13There are lots of similar comments above about how the OS is still needed, but I do believe that HTML5 is a major step, albeit one of several that will make the specific OS less relevant. Linux, OS X, Windows...Google Apps are all the same, and so are many other things that occupy our time on computers...like Facebook, Twitter, etc...
OS Killer as a term, is wrong on many levels, but HTML5 may help enable many people to break away from Windows (for example if they like the Mac) or break away from OS X (if they want a less expensive PC), or switch to Linux.
Also, HTML5 will help further establish true standards, especially when it comes to video, which is still somewhat of a mess. And it will reduce dependency on Flash, Silverlight, and a bunch of other plugins many of us don't want, or can't use. - DBeta, on 05/28/2009, -0/+12You prefer it for now, but there is absolutely nothing stopping someone from making something of the same quality as Open Office and Microsoft Office on the net, and with HTML 5 and technologies like Google Gears, these full featured web applications can go offline with you too. It's only a matter of time for most programs. Granted, some programs like video editors and 3D renderers will likely never be in the same class, there is a good chance that it they might end up as web applications just for the sake of easy hardware outsourcing. Need to render a 3D video, but don't have a week? Just pay for a little more hardware for a week to complete you project.
It's day isn't here, but neither is HTML 5, but like HTML 5, I have no doubt it is on it's way. - NeoTechni, on 05/29/2009, -0/+12Nothing?
- marktastic, on 05/28/2009, -1/+13In the future, "ghz" and "mhz" will be replaced with "internets."
We will hear things like, "I've already got my 3.6 internets computer overclocked to 4.0 internets. On stock cooling!" - DaffyDuck, on 05/29/2009, -2/+13What's wrong with operating systems? I kinda like them.
- Technopundit, on 05/29/2009, -7/+18Integrate OS w/browser = applaud Google
Integrate browser w/OS = sue Microsoft - Scott2, on 05/28/2009, -7/+17HTML replacing the OS?
BURY WITHOUT PREJUDICE!!! - dn11, on 05/28/2009, -1/+11if you had an html5 front end client running an OnLive like service, I think the answer is... maybe?
http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/onlive-crys ... - alsazen, on 05/28/2009, -1/+11Well, given that we have already seen Mario (and probably other console games) reproduced with Javascript in a browser already, I'd say that while the next generation of browsers might not managed it (without a Quake Live type plug in) I think it's only a matter of time until someone does it.
When Mario came out, no one would have through that a glorified text viewer (ie. the browser.. if it even existed then) would be able to reproduce Mario. It's just progress. - Atomic1fire, on 05/29/2009, -3/+12except
A. Gears is compatible with IE, firefox, and its opensource,
so not giving the user a choice in compatible browser is a null argument.
b. The applications stuff is optional, and the technologies are open and not prone to monopoly.
where microsoft failed is when they ingrained IE and attempted to kill off netscape.
Google has shown to be noncompetitive, offering products to IE, firefox, and safari. the Chrome aspect of this is strictly in google's best interest, the faster browsers run web apps, the more google can do with web apps without supporting slower browsers, such as IE6. - nofx1510, on 05/28/2009, -2/+11HTML5 Has a chance because it wont look like ***** unlike java
- kahn2001, on 05/28/2009, -4/+13what if javascript is turned off for security reasons? don't relay on it too much
- SilentBobSC, on 05/28/2009, -0/+8Used it, love it, continue to find out more reasons to love it everyday.
- sauron256, on 05/28/2009, -1/+9Huh? Who mentioned Microsoft, you idiot?
Who do you think is going to be writing this web-based software? Someone has to develop it, you know. - strangewill, on 05/28/2009, -1/+9And you'll use the hardware without an OS how...?
- arunforce, on 05/28/2009, -3/+10I just want HTML5 so I can make dynamic images without using PHP/GD or Flash. I'd use SVG, but like usual IE is lagging web development. I'm not going to force 80% of my visitors to install a plugin.
- superkendall, on 05/28/2009, -0/+6Java delivered on the promise - absolutely on the server where there is a ton of code today, and somewhat on the desktop although more limited in scope to development tools like Eclipse and the occasional popular consumer app.
No reason HTML 5 cannot carry forth the same cross-platform banner as well. - yurimxpxman, on 05/28/2009, -0/+7They're not questioning the need for an OS. They're talking about the need for any OS in particular. If every OS can run all of these HTML5 apps, then no one will care what OS they're on. In fact, they'll be more likely to go with something more secure than Windows since they don't need to worry about software compatibility anymore.
- Schweppesale, on 05/28/2009, -2/+9what do you think the JVM does?
- blake213, on 05/28/2009, -0/+7You can already use the canvas element. It's supported by all the latest browsers, minus IE obviously, but there is a great canvas -> VML interface library that google developed that adds IE 6 support. I use it in robust enterprise software that's run in mostly IE environments, and it works great.
http://code.google.com/p/explorercanvas/ - arbulus, on 05/28/2009, -1/+8Absolutely, having an OS for local use is going to continue to be necessary. But the big piont is that the OS you are using to browse the web will become completely irrelevant. For example, with the video tag in HTML5, you won't need Flash or Silverlight, so you won't have to worry about what platform will run the video plugin necessary to view the content.
So in an era of more widely ported local apps and platform agnostic web content, Microsoft loses it hegemony in the OS world and the playing field evens out and people just use whatever works for them. It's a win-win for consumers. - rpark, on 05/28/2009, -1/+8Everyone knows its impossible because everyone will still be running IE6.
- inactive, on 05/28/2009, -7/+13cloud computing is stupid
- Baryn, on 05/29/2009, -0/+6I know you're ignorant of these technologies, but don't go around being a ***** about it.
- kalvinb, on 05/28/2009, -1/+7JVM has to be written and compiled for any OS that wants to run Java.
JVM isn't a magic black box that magically runs on everything. It's a platform specific application that makes Java look like a magic black box that magically runs on everything.
Java doesn't run on any OS that doesn't have a JVM compiled for it. All virtual machines do is remove the need for the average programmer to compile. As long as the end user can install a JVM, they just need to release the half-way compiled code. - AngelBunny, on 05/28/2009, -1/+7All I care about is something that will kill flash for video playback (youtube and such).
- dn11, on 05/28/2009, -0/+6sure, but what about when the main feature of the OS is the browser? I think that's the real question.
- cannonball, on 05/29/2009, -0/+6i want flash to ***** die.
- JonLatane, on 05/29/2009, -0/+6They're already experimenting with HTML5 video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/html5
You'll need either Safari or Chrome along with an H.264 codec to play the video, as the Firefox devs haven't caught up yet and are only supporting Ogg Theora. But it's better looking, less bandwidth-intensive, and less resource-intensive than Flash since it just uses your system's native video codecs. It also uses your browser's cache rather than a Flash-specific cache for each page, so if you close the page accidentally, you don't have to wait for it to reload if you have a high-bandwidth connection. And if you mouse-over the "related videos" you will have your mind blown. - inactive, on 05/28/2009, -7/+13So... This HTML5 will be rendered by a browser that's also written in HTML5 and runs inside another browser that... Head assplodes.
- sauron256, on 05/28/2009, -1/+6And security won't be a problem, right?
Face it, there is some ***** that people are not going to want to put out on the net. - Schweppesale, on 05/28/2009, -0/+5that's dead on. Enter Linux
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