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- gnosis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Google, how about creating something cool to rival ruby gems? The Vaults of Parnassus are *cough* embarrassing."
I take it you are not a regular python programmer. The Python Package Index aka. Cheese Shop (http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi) has long ago superseded Vaults of Parnassus. With Easy Install (http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall) you can download, compile and install any package in the Cheese Shop with a simple one-line statement. Can't say I'm knowledgeable about Ruby and Ruby Gems, but from what I understand it is very similar to Easy Install. Correct me if I'm wrong. - rspeed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Too bad it's not Monty Python."
It's named after it, and the documentation is full of references to their skits. - newtonapple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a good thing for the Python community in general IMHO. Since Guido didn't get to work on his pet project Python 3000 (a.k.a Python 3.0) in his last job. Now he can get at least 20% of his time, and give us some much needed/requested improvements for the language (*ahem,* code blocks in 2.5). More from the original source: the python mailing list.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/32dc95bd671542f3/ - individualist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0but Python is soooo fast. I love it.
Also, more google info:
http://digg.com/links/google_jumps_the_shark - Pxtl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Both Python and Ruby have failings when compared to each other. Ruby syntax is somewhat confusing and feels different-for-difference's sake and slightly Perlesque with it's love for character prefixes. Python, on the other hand, doesn't have the ideological purity of Ruby and is something of a mishmash of linquistic features plastered together.
- RWVolkl158, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Have to agree with pschmied... Lets see Google do something completely awesome with Python to steal some of Ruby's recent thunder.
- cypher35, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Love the language got it running on my xbox very cool..."
same here, it's like a stripped down php. i love it! - ironcamel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Python rocks! And whoever invented it rocks to.
- vagabond0101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0PHP rocks
- concept10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@herolint
Ruby programs are not difficult to install:
sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies
done.. that's of course after installing ruby gems. which isn't difficult.
You seem to confuse this with configuring Apache and FastCGI. I will admit FastCGI was difficult at first, not after the initial install.. no worries. - digglugg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1one can only wonder when google will acquire digg, afterall it's pretty much already a google asset by the large number of google employee spotted picking nose posts... :~)
- merlyn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google responses will finally be indented logically!
/me ducks - Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ JrSims
Python is a great language and Ruby is a great language, but Ruby needs a lot of work in the documentation department. Also, there are some good IDEs (using the term loosely) for Python that do command completion and things like that. This helps new users of the language figure it out quicker.
To my knowledge, Ruby lacks these kinds of tool (mainly because of the way the language itself works) and the only really good documentation is from the pragmatic programmer guys (and maybe the Ruby on Rails site).
Also, some of the Ruby programs (like Ruby on Rails) are feats in and of themselves just to install, let alone use (think rails on Apache using FastCGI for instance).
In my opinion, Ruby has a lot of potential, but it needs a lot of work and polish before it is ready for prime time.
If Ruby had a web resource like PHP's online library documentation and developer tools even to the small level of the wxPython utility PyShell, then I'd agree with your sentiment 100%. Until then... - aeoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nice. How about getting rid of all the __ double underscores all over the place? There has got to be an easier way to make variables private.
- polvero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yahoo! has Rasmus. What's up now?
- jrsims, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Google needs to go large on Ruby.
- Metal_Hurlant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0in related non-news..
Yahoo hired the inventor of PHP a few years back.
And yes, yahoo uses PHP extensively.
All is well.
What's next, MS hiring the inventor of Visual Basic? Oh wait. - pschmied, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Python and Ruby seem about the same technically, but Ruby community projects seem more "polished" (and this comes from a Python fan).
Google, how about creating something cool to rival ruby gems? The Vaults of Parnassus are *cough* embarrassing. - DewayneSmith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Python scripts. I was lead here by a phishing email...Pythong scripts? Hmm...sounds good.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Ummm, don't use languages where white-space is significant, mmkay?
- jo42, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0From http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general.html#why-does-python-use-indentation-for-grouping-of-statements
> Because there are no begin/end brackets, Python is much less prone to coding-style conflicts.
Gadzooks! What a frickin' maintainability nightmare. Whoever dreamed up this True Dumbness should be forced to write "I'm a total idiot!" googleplex times... - dharh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0If theres a dupe, post the dupes url. sheesh.
- skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0whoops. sorry. here:
http://digg.com/technology/Python_Creator_now_working_at_Google - skyhighrockets, on 10/16/2007, -2/+0http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8821?CMP=OTC-6YE827253101&ATT=Python+Creator+Guido+van+Rossum+now+working+at+Google
- crapiolio, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Old news.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Love the language got it running on my xbox very cool...oh and ***** you Microsoft hehehe!
- blingfinger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0"Don't be Evil" then why the hell are they getting involved with AOL
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Bah..
- skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0dupe.
- drwiii, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Too bad it's not Monty Python.
- Wogna, on 10/16/2007, -4/+0^ go die
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http://sethnieman.blogspot.com - jkearney, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0who gives a *****?
- CaughtThinking, on 10/16/2007, -5/+0Did anyone see Akira? I think Google is doing no evil just like Tetsuo is doing no evil at the end.
I don't use Python, but I'm glad I don't right now. Next thing you know,
"Google Announces Python to be Embedded Firefox Scripting Language With AOL ads!"
a million fan boys announce it as "excellent move" and "finally".
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