47 Comments
- Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21Yes, primarily tech people frequent digg. Shocking, I'm sure.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Yet another reason why Firefox > IE
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Your bitter tone is not helping your case, of which, you have a pretty good one. Maybe the submission was *****. Just like in newspapers, the way you layout a headline and lead can make all the difference over whether someone reads a story or not.
As one of my former editors puts it: You can have the greatest story ever told, but if you can't get someone to stop and listen to it, what's it worth? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Nested tables? Somebody isn't a css whore, i see!
- npsken, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Hey DiggStaff (I hope I'm replying correctly) stop the impersonation game! You were a member since today and have no right to go around trolling.
- jool, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Isn't using tables for layout a layout error in itself?
I'm not only a CSS whore, I'm also a standards, usability and accessibility whore. - dgritsko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@ DiggStaff
DiggStaff, digg allows you to post comments to the discussion, preferably ones that are relevant to the current topic. You are in no way forced to make a useless comment that doesn't help anything except maybe your ego. So there is really no excuse to post if you have nothing to say. Next time please do us all a favor and STFU.
Thanks,
Digg Committee for Less Retardedness in the Comments - gusx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3damn, yes it is an error and i wish the trend would go away.
I completely agree with you...
But the truth is... most websites are still built with tables layout.
And i'm not talking about little websites. I mean, big companies like google.com or cnn.com are STILL using tables - gusx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4i am a css whore, but at work i had to deal with them since the company policies were tables,tr,td
ps: notice I mentioned div and span too.. :) - nene7070, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6well, the "Nope, not of any interest to geeks or tech whatsoever. Absolutely not." made me absolutely sure that he had a sarcastic tone. IMHO.
- ceralor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Wow, a Nazi for everything. I've seen dupe-Nazi's and other forms, but never an all-in-one! Congratulations!
- chaosroach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I prefer version 1.x
- wedgea18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is like putting on glasses for the first time... you had no idea how bad off you were before!
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1awesome, worth a digg
- EliW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I highly prefer and reccomend instead the Web Developer plugin. Not only does it allow you to view generated source, it does much MUCH more.
- inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow! This is a kick-ass extension. I especially love the fact that it fully renders any HTML written out with Javascript. I expected it just to show the javascript code as its own block, but it actually renders it all. Beautiful. I maintain pages that use Javascript to write out some fairly complex HTML and debugging display issues with that can be a real bitch. This is probably one of the most useful goodies I've seen in ages. Definite digg!
- GreenAlien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Plenty top websites still use tables ;) Even apple.com makes use of tables. Obviously CSS is cleaner and more flexible, but at least with tables you know that it'll display with pixel-perfect accuracy across 100% of browsers. Plus tables are more robust - if you stick something inside a table cell you know it'll stay there and be bound by the cell borders.
- TreasureChest, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Trying to download v2.0 just downloads a perl script, here's a mirror for v2.0
http://www.plunder.com/View-Rendered-Source-Chart-2-0-download-514.htm - PoweredDeath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Very sexy extension!!
- gusx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4wow!
useful for debugging layout errors like nested tables,tr,td or div,span tags... - jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2this is definately one of those extensions you can't live without once you start doing dhtml and want to see changes to the source reflected in view source. kudos
- prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Very nice. I've been using DOM Inspector previously.. this will be good for quick lookups though.
- erlkonig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've had much of this functionality for months in Mozilla - and *without* an extension - using a bookmarklet. Just put the following chunk into the Location portion of a bookmark, then activate it to get instant grayscale structure display. The control-minus/plus/etc.. is just a browser feature, not an original part of the extension (the website is also wildly overhyped).
Here's the bookmarklet:
javascript:(function(){var s=%22body%22,c=%22%22,I=%22 ! important;%22,i,b,f,x,h; for(i=0;i15?%22FCC%22:x x x; f = i>9?%22000%22:%22FFF%22; c = s %22 {background: #%22 b I %22border-color: #%22 b I %22color: #%22 f I %22}n%22; s = %22 *%22; } if(document.createStyleSheet) { document.createStyleSheet(%22javascript:'%22 c %22'%22); } else { h=document.createElement('link'); h.rel='stylesheet'; h.href='data:text/css,' escape(c); document.getElementsByTagName(%22head%22)[0].appendChild(h);}})()
I have over a dozen of this kind of thing. You can copy and paste them from the links in the Acts section of http://www.talisman.org/~erlkonig/bookmarks.html
(Note: I didn't write these - look up "bookmarklet" in Google or something if you want to look for the original authors) - thread, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ok, this is wickedbadass. Thanks!
- surfinlogs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0it's easy to miss the most powerful feature of the extension - the charting.
it's so subtle and yet so powerful.
i don't believe the bookmarketlets do any charting. btw, you don't need bookmarklets to view rendered source - just use Fx. ctrl a then right click then view selection source. - zate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thats all fine and dandy but linking directly to an xpi is pretty dangerous. How many people check what extensions do before installing them ? Its pretty trivial to create an extension like this that logs all your key strokes in the back ground, steals your passwords etc etc. Its just javascript mainly, anything that you can do with XSS you can do with these, and then some.
Personally I check out what an extension does (save it, change it to .zip and unzip it and look around) and only download stuff from the official mozilla extensions site becuase they have been reviewed. I still look around a bit though.
I am sure this one is fine (havent looked at it) but I can just image if/when someone posts a direct link to a "OMG thats so COOL!!" extension on here that does a bunch of nasty stuff in the back ground.
Example of what I mean --> http://seclists.org/lists/bugtraq/2006/Mar/0016.html - Omicron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1no longer will i have to copy and paste the source into dreamweaver to make it more readable.
incredible extension. - studiorats, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1good contri
- jjb123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Very usefull, I always find myself trying to read through all that un structered code. This makes my life alot better. Also, another reason why to use firefox.
- mfearby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This is a VERY NICE little Firefox extension! I'd digg it a 100 times if I could :-)
- Maxpower57, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1very organized.
definitely useful. - Soccrmastr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3this is [pretty handy.
- surfinlogs, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Try this URL:
http://jennifermadden.com/scripts/vrspaid/vrs.xpi - robohoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Ahh, finally something that I needed. This is the greatest invention since the invention of the internet. At least it help me not get sooooo much eye strain and headaches when trying to read through code.
+digg (wish i could digg a thousand times) - kritic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Been using this for about a week now, it's gorgeous. No longer is it painful viewing source. Hurrah.
- GamerSmurf, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1This is amazing.
- mikeyernst, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Great post. Very useful.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1So are you really asking for yet another site to cover it when it is already being covered in the appropriate news outlets? Oh, I guess you wouldn't know about being appropriate since you're trolling this around in here. Forgot to take our meds today, eh?
- stalinvlad, on 10/12/2007, -11/+514 yo a child?
*****
Pubic hair
Ability to get pregnant
***** off thats never a child - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Table = Still king
- artur.ventura, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1old friend for me
- ucbrave92, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4dude no one cares about the DHS guy, it's all over the news anyway and frankly we are all sick of hearing about it. And if you just posted it you are a tard anyway because it broke yesterday dumbass.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1leave suemos or semen alone. kthx bai
PS: TOO MANY KR FANBOYS - seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -21/+3Hmm... quick question: How can you tell his tone just from a bunch of letters?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -40/+7Yes, a united states official in charge of security / child predators / child porn (which includes the internet) being caught soliciting a 14 year old girl for sex over the internet is totally not tech related or anything. Nope, not of any interest to geeks or tech whatsoever. Absolutely not.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -56/+6This is amusing, because I just posted in another thread about how it seems that 'firefox extension submissions are clearly more important than the Department of Homeland Security CHild Predator Program being nabbed for soliciting a 14 year old girl for sex over the internet submissions'. Then I reload the page and, voila! Ther's a firefox extension submission on the front page!


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