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- Tamriel, on 02/12/2008, -2/+135The reason his stories didn't make the front page is because they were lame and actually had some content that could only be understood through reading paragraphs. This is Digg, damnit. Where are those pictures of cats saying grammatically incorrect things?
- bullcutter, on 02/12/2008, -13/+78what?! there's no way this is true, and this one example is not "proof of fairness" of the new algorithm system. that's a retarded conjecture.
there was at least 6 stories by msaleem that made the front page today, 4 by Zaibatsu, a couple from MakiMaki or whatever and the obligatory 4 for Mr Baby Man.
6 or 7 users consistently submit half or more of the front-page stories, and there are... how many thousands of submitters on Digg? how does this make the algorithm "more fair"???
Digg is becoming stale, even if the people who know how to manipulate the system don't see it this way. - Privil3g3, on 02/12/2008, -2/+47I used to be logged into Digg all day at work, but now find that i can check it once a day and check out the top rated for the 24 and not miss anything important, Digg is getting stale.
- MasterThief117, on 02/12/2008, -4/+46Now that the Digg algorithm is working, how about a picture secti... oh wait
A better comment syst... wait, no...
Uhh... a cheese section? - capiCrimm, on 02/12/2008, -1/+37"they have massive networks of friends who diligently Digg whatever they are sent."
in other words, they game the system. - salmonmoose, on 02/12/2008, -1/+37That's the problem.
It's not a popularity contest, it's an "interesting article" contest. - FatLoser, on 02/12/2008, -3/+36I think the section you're thinking of is... porn.
- RedPhalanx, on 02/12/2008, -5/+35Before: Paulspam
After: Obamaspam
not much of an improvement, really - Zarokima, on 02/12/2008, -1/+31http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/
- FatLoser, on 02/12/2008, -0/+27I think you mean "oh snap" or "pwn"... you can't say "touche" unless you were the OP.
- FatLoser, on 02/12/2008, -0/+21self pwn :(
- jtq1, on 02/12/2008, -0/+20always: crackedspam
- DiggnessFalls, on 02/12/2008, -5/+25Nice article, I actually find it funny not even Kevin can get his stories dugg now. I gave it a Favorite!
- qwertydvorak, on 02/12/2008, -1/+20i hope that doesn't fall under the main heading of cheese...
- gypsi, on 02/12/2008, -2/+19yawwwwn for digg drama
- Auzy, on 02/12/2008, -3/+19I actually think its just the illusion of fairness.
I have noticed that unlike the old days of digg, nobody seems to actually check what they are digging anymore. So there are a lot of crappy articles making it to the front (Like rumors of a 3G iphone, which is just so obvious its painful, and the article was crap, and certainly not front page material), whilst many better articles I have seen being submitted (yes I go through them one by one, unlike most), get maybe 5 or so diggs and die, just because they don't mention apple, ubuntu, or prediction in the title.
People who are planning on digging articles shouldn't, unless they are actually going to go through them properly (like the good old days). These days front page is becoming crowded by dugg articles, which were only dugg because they are promoting a certain OS. - FatLoser, on 02/12/2008, -1/+16No, that's what you make while you visit the porn section.
- Rikushix, on 02/12/2008, -1/+15Don't jump to conclusions. Youtube views are not updated in real time (constantly, that is), there are very long intervals between refresh rates. I know the video you're talking about, I came back hours after it had made the top 10 on the front page and the view count was still at mid to high 200s. It happens. The system's fine.
- Darkhacker, on 02/12/2008, -0/+13No. If person X *always* diggs submissions by person Y, does that make their digg worth anything? The problem is fanboys who digg articles based on who submitted it rather than the content. That would be like saying that Paris Hilton's opinion actually matters (it doesn't) because more people listen to what she has to say than what you have to say.
- FatLoser, on 02/12/2008, -1/+14no ur gay
- Lapper, on 02/12/2008, -0/+13101%? Don't you get it? An average of one out of every one hundred stories he submits is made made popular... twice. :P
- themastersb, on 02/12/2008, -1/+13Mirror: http://soshable.com.nyud.net:8080/rose-digg-front- ...
- chetanthaker, on 02/12/2008, -3/+14Kevin Rose has a front Page hit ratio of 99% to 101% - Dugg for using cheats !!
- franklymister, on 02/12/2008, -0/+11I don't think the problem is with certain users getting to the front page too much, it's with quality stories getting lost in the overwhelming sea of noise.
So many people are submitting spam, weird vanity posts, or other crap that I've given up trying to look at anything upcoming if it doesn't already have at least 30 diggs. Try and crawl through the new stuff (1 or 2 diggs) without gouging your eyes out after a few minutes. It's just too hard to find the good stories.
As a result, I think that a lot of really quality stuff is getting missed because it doesn't have one of the buzzwords of the moment in the headline, or worse yet, when a good story is submitted with a terrible headline, so that no one else can put it up in a way that might actually pique anyone's interest.
I don't care if my stories or someone else's get to the home page, but I would love to be able to find more diversity and quality in what does get there. - da_bradler, on 02/12/2008, -0/+10The worst part about it is digg is now entirely useless for any political news, I log onto digg the day after a vote and the stories on the front page don't reflect the outcome they just reflect who digg wanted to win.
Hillary wins story reads "Obama has a strong showing" "Possible voter fraud" "rigged election"
Obama wins story reads "It's over Obama is the master of the universe."
I mean I come to digg to try and get all my news but now it's just crap. A certain site will pop up often for a week and then digg rebels against it simply for the fact that it's been up front a lot, not anything to do with the quality of content. People get told to just bookmark the sites and stop submiting from them, well I mean ***** sakes I come to digg BECAUSE to dig on my own threw dozen of sites looking for the good content.
The very nature of how diggers ban together is what makes it unusable - inactive, on 02/12/2008, -3/+12IM IN UR DIGG STEELIN UR ALGORITHUMS
- grimward, on 02/12/2008, -0/+9Yeah, digg is certainly getting stale now, I don't know if it's the change that happend in the algorithm that's responsible, but I can say that this site has changed from interesting news more to pointless images and "look at this clip!" kind of deals. I agree that we need a cheese section as somebody up there commented on.
- Okari, on 02/12/2008, -1/+9I agree, the only thing that makes it to the front page are political propaganda, Apple stories, or Scientology *****. I find myself just going to the news sites these days instead of Digg.
- inactive, on 02/12/2008, -4/+12Yea, obviously people with over 200+ friends are just spamming *****. So their must be a limit set for how many friends you can add.
- techlyc, on 02/12/2008, -2/+10Dugg you up, but man the more heroin you use, the less high you get. Good luck with "using less".
- mrsteveman1, on 02/12/2008, -3/+11You can't say touche at all cuz its teh ghey
- SantaClauz, on 02/12/2008, -2/+9The Digg algorithm in my opinion is anything but fair. You can go out of your way to submit articles that you find interesting and you know a majority of other digg users will as well, but you have no way of letting them know. Promoting your stories through comments is frowned upon on digg, so unless you have a massive friend base or multiple accounts you can never get your story to get enough diggs to be seen. I don't really know how you can fix this problem, but I'm sure most of us can agree it exists. I doubt I'm the only one who has submitted stories time and time again only to see them die out after 5 or 6 diggs.
Maybe I'm wrong, but IMHO I felt that when i submitted this story http://digg.com/comedy/What_To_Look_For_In_A_Woman it deserved a lot more diggs than it got. Especially because I know diggs userbase, I felt that they would find it funny. But, other than the 5 diggs it got from my friends, it didn't go anywhere.
Anyways....
/rant - Celeron, on 02/12/2008, -2/+9Mirror: http://duggmirror.com/programming/Evidence_That_Th ...
- cphelps, on 02/12/2008, -1/+8It's pretty much the same story for me except I sometimes don't even look at Digg at work, even on my break. I'll check it once in the morning and once in the evening if that. It's just not for me anymore. Whatever the site is turning into is what it turns into, but I probably won't be here for it if it continues like it is. To much crap on the front page. "Oh my god, look at this cat" "Oh my god, this guy is falling". Useless ***** that any non-moron wouldn't want to read.
- cococooky, on 02/12/2008, -0/+6It's 1000.
- tektalk, on 02/12/2008, -0/+6That number needs to come down a bit more.
- inchrnt, on 02/12/2008, -0/+5Sadly, I think the algorithm is working fine. It's the people who are broken. Stop digging spam!!!
Digg proves we are sheep.
click click bah bah click bah bah click click - FatLoser, on 02/12/2008, -0/+5I agree! Contingent, of course, on all stories being submitted anonymously! The submitter shouldn't matter at all.
- sgtbutterscotch, on 02/12/2008, -1/+6I want to add that I think the system would seem more fair if more Diggers checked the upcoming section. There's a lot of quality stuff there from submitters who aren't that popular and a lot of it just dies there. And I'm not just talking about the upcoming popular section, but all the little sections that you are interested in. I think that is one of the main problems because while Diggers are complaining that they can't their stuff popular, they should be checking out the upcoming section to digg up other diggers' submissions.
- ThreeDee912, on 02/12/2008, -0/+5If you look at who diggs mrbabyman's stories, it's the same people every single time. The top diggers, plus some people like arbiterofcool, suxmonkey, etc (who are also somewhat 'top' diggers). They are definitely still getting onto the FP, but not as much as before.
- frode!, on 02/12/2008, -0/+4Is there a way I can exclude stories submitted from a user defined list of names from appearing on my front page?
This would allow people who really like what Zaibatsu, MakiMaki, etc submit to see their stories but let others who don't like their stories to never even see them.
Personally I'm in the second group and digg is becoming a lot less interesting for me. - notque, on 02/12/2008, -0/+4Msaleem has 4 articles on the front page right now.
- phazon88, on 02/12/2008, -0/+4Reddit is better, but the frontpage moves too slow it seems like between the beginning and the end of the day basically the same articles are on the frontpage.
- edebolt, on 02/12/2008, -0/+4there has been some strange stuff with only dozens of diggs on the front page lately... Is this progress?
- doyoulikeworms, on 02/12/2008, -6/+10Except the obamaspam is like 10x worse than the paulspam ever was. But yes, both were bad.
- fonik, on 02/12/2008, -0/+3Now everyone has an equal chance of pimping their inaccurate, grammatically incorrect fluff article to the front page solely to generate ad revenue!
- crapmatic, on 02/12/2008, -0/+3I would digg you up twice if I could. Not only is it too hard to find good content in the ocean of upcoming stories, but it feels pointless to digg any of them because Digg is churning through so much
- N4S74, on 02/12/2008, -1/+4For all of those whining about the content on digg.
The reasons that digg is starting to suck is not because of the algorithm it's because the digg user base is getting lazy, this is a democratic system if you only look and vote for stuff on the front page thats all thats going to be successful. The digg userbase needs to start looking in the upcoming section more and start becoming active in the stories that make it to the front page. To many people are just going to the homepage and digging what they see. If you don't like the content on digg submit or look for content that you like in the the upcoming section and digg it. - Wwing49, on 02/12/2008, -0/+3It is midnight...
- capiCrimm, on 02/12/2008, -1/+4"Just because you are at a disadvantage does not mean something is not fair."
is this a Fox news definition of fair?
webster: marked by *impartiality* and honesty : free from self-interest, *prejudice*, or *favoritism* -
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