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- OBKenobi, on 05/24/2008, -4/+79I want to see this implemented on ***porn.com as soon as possible.
That was not sarcasm. - msaleem, on 05/24/2008, -2/+45Wow, I was looking at the first demonstration video and I have to say, it kinda blew my mind :) Not in that its "woah" revolutionary, but because its so intuitive and so bloody simple. It just makes sense.
- crapmatic, on 05/24/2008, -1/+21Does Flash video even lend itself to easy rewinding/forwarding? That's not been my experience. Usually on YouTube when I try monkeying with forwarding/rewinding, the damn clip stalls and has to be restarted.
- ElbertF, on 05/24/2008, -1/+19Adobe, put this feature in After Effects CS4!
- jaxomlotus, on 05/24/2008, -3/+17Agreed, this is amazing UI.
- jasdf, on 05/24/2008, -2/+14Wasn't the youtube player a giveaway?
- Atomic1fire, on 05/24/2008, -0/+10But he is doing it by draging an item forward and backward on its path
Thats what is where the interesting part is
One slider is less cooler then manipulating the direction (back and forth but still) of the items in the video - tech42er, on 05/24/2008, -4/+13Damn. Was I the only one that assumed the video was an example of the technology and tried to drag objects in it?
- Noelix, on 05/24/2008, -0/+9It depends on how it's encoded. When you encode a video you specify what is called a keyframe. The keyframe acts as a position which can be reached via a standard player. Youtube uses a very low keyframe rate, and as a result, moving along the timeline is very innacurate. It looks like this video is using content that has 1 keyframe per second. The reason for not using a ton of keyframes is that keyframes store more data than a standard frame, increasing the overall filesize and bandwidth.
- anagoge, on 05/24/2008, -3/+11I think you need to watch the video again.
- inactive, on 05/24/2008, -5/+13Why does this link to the comments :/
- maabus, on 05/24/2008, -0/+8Still...pretty revolutionary. Computer vision is REALLY tough, even with simple motion detectors.
- Atomic1fire, on 05/24/2008, -2/+10There is a windows download available here
http://www.aviz.fr/dimp/download.html - Lith25, on 05/24/2008, -1/+8This is what I thought was happening at first too. The first example with the cars makes it seem that way. But if you continue to watch, it's just fast-forwarding/re-rewinding the video based on which way you move the mouse. Very intuitive, and I'm surprised this hasn't been implemented before, but it's not a ground-breaking new technology.
- sixsidepentagon, on 05/24/2008, -0/+6Well, it has a shaded hint area so you know where to drag it.
I don't quite understand how you'd miss video when stuff stops.
Well and advantage could be precision in finding that exact moment. Like if you're looking at an impact or something, you can move a club precisely when it hits the baby seal. - tyroney, on 05/24/2008, -0/+5Watch your hat...
This is variable rate, keyed off of the "movement" of "objects" in the video image. Everything that's moving around in the video becomes a scrub bar handle. And you can drop anything into it, let it work its magic, and bam. That's what's groundbreaking. - robeph, on 05/24/2008, -0/+5well if you watch the second video it describes unique object identifying and hint pathing related to the object, of course they disapeared, video is still video, this doesn't change it, only how it is viewed and manipulated by the one watching the video.
- gllopc, on 05/24/2008, -3/+8Me, too - but I'll use it to manipulate the women.
- BrendanSheehan, on 05/24/2008, -3/+7Amazing!
Soon you'll be able to watch a video on your computer and if you see an item in the video you like (i.e. might want to buy) you'll click it to end up on its Amazon.com page. - manitoba98xp, on 05/24/2008, -0/+4It's meant to replace or augment the scrubber (or "slider"). Just as you don't want that to distract you, you don't use it when you want to watch a video in its entirely – like you usually would a movie. It's intended as an alternative means of navigation, allowing you to find events in video more easily and quickly.
- lektroluv, on 05/24/2008, -2/+6Wow, that'll be great for security-cameras and stuff!
..no, just kidding. I just want the porn. - choopie911, on 05/24/2008, -1/+5I can deffinitly see that becoming a reality. Watch a movie on your home tv or computer, and whenever theres a product you're interested in, you could click to find the information, or even send it to amazon.. Product placement 2.0.
- theHM, on 05/24/2008, -0/+3Before this becomes useful online, they need to reduce the size of the motion path files: in one of the examples they provide, a 57 second video clip of 1.30MB has a motion path file of 5.1MB.
- leek, on 05/24/2008, -0/+3the technology showcased here does not recognize objects in videos: it simply finds places in the video where portions of the image is updated (moving) and let's you drag around this portion's motion. It really is about colors and patterns rather than actual objects...
- theHM, on 05/24/2008, -0/+3You can still watch the video as normal. You're not expected to watch videos solely by sliding objects around; this technology is intended to augment the timeline-navigation process.
- DigDugDigger, on 05/24/2008, -0/+2The background stabilization (or whatever they call it) is also very impressive too, basically estimating what would be in the frame.
- ligyron, on 05/24/2008, -1/+3Repost it next week
- Atomic1fire, on 05/24/2008, -1/+3I was slapping some people in the face with this video player (one of the example videos)
its fun - RomanThommassen, on 05/24/2008, -1/+3you can actually use it ! great, most stuff is government only.
- h4ppydotcom, on 05/24/2008, -0/+2It is not a method for changing the video or magically turning a linear video into an interactive/3D environment.
What it IS, is a very interesting development that (provided it can become robust enough) I am fairly sure will quickly become a standard enhancement for video seek bars in the near future. Personally, though, I think it's important to keep the seek bar on the screen so you can see the (linear) effect of dragging the on-screen objects.
My question is this, though: what happens when the same 'object' oscillates in the video or moves backwards and forwards? E.g. in the example it shows a spring at about 42secs. When it is dragged up and down the video seeks back and forwards in a small part of the video (one oscillation). What if I want to seek forward by, say, 5 oscillations?
Perhaps holding down a key and dragging (or right-click-dragging) could be used to mean "always seek forwards if you can"? - HonoredMule, on 05/24/2008, -0/+2Dragging the car just caused the video to seek to the point where the car wasn't yet parked...a point where there were no people walking by. It didn't really 'break' anything.
This would be an interesting way to analyze security footage or high-res/high-speed closeups. - squarepegs, on 05/24/2008, -0/+2One major application I could envision would be security footage. So you've got 10 hours of footage from a parking lot security camera and you want to know when someone stole a car...
It seems to me like the main application of this is when you know an event happens and you want to fast forward to that moment. But for many of the examples they show, the effect is no different from using the slider bar. Just cooler looking. - Karmavs, on 05/24/2008, -0/+2The entire video fast forwards/rewinds. This is obvious, on the second example particularly. But it's not moving left/right that effects the movement of the video. Dimp, I assume, tracks each object through time automatically; when you click on an object and drag to a position that object used to be/will be; the video will move to that point in thime. The entire video.
The car doesn't move out without the people walking. As the car parks, a man comes in at the left, the same as in the original video. - chedabob, on 05/24/2008, -0/+2Microsoft should get these guys on board for Surface, instead of wasting time going after Yahoo.
- qwertydvorak, on 05/24/2008, -1/+2revolutionary would be flash video syncing with the audio. i hate the kung-fu dubbed movie effect you get with longer flash videos. how hard would it be for flash to add a periodic audio / video sync tag ?
- slammerama, on 05/24/2008, -1/+2Like the concept, but like others have said, nothing new. Plus caching the entire video into memory is not the greatest thing to do, especially for large video files.
- pfwd, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1I think it could have a lot of uses in video security but maybe not so much use as an online tool
- Blablah01, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1Dugg for the funny name, "dimpee" =)
- darlyn, on 05/24/2008, -4/+5I completely agree with you. Other than the coolness factor, this has absolutely no practical uses.
- choopie911, on 05/24/2008, -3/+4That's amazingly impressive. Nice and intuitive by the looks of it.
- HonoredMule, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1Someone skipped the "next week" part.
- ccaazz, on 05/24/2008, -2/+3that is so cool! - best idea i have seen in ages!
- mattcoady, on 05/24/2008, -3/+4It's often forgotten that the flash video player is a flash swf file, and therefore applies to all the rules of flash. I'm just having a hard time thinking of the pratical uses for it. Take the swimmer coming out of the water for example. You can't drag her to the left or right. And if you try to do too much it just breaks. Take the parking lot scene. When he went for the car the people dissappeared.
- NoMoreNinj4s, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1The DimP player is a standalone Windows application written for .NET. Where does Flash come into this?
- DigDugDigger, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1Perhaps an idea ahead of its time. But as time goes on, internet access speeds will go up. Would love to see this on YouTube (or its hotter cousin, Vimeo)... I'm sure it won't work on ALL videos but its still impressive nonetheless.
- kraft2000, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1I think it's more complicated. It must be based on streamlines of the optical flow (vector fields of mouvement) of the video.
- Karmavs, on 05/24/2008, -9/+9Hate to be that guy; but this is practically useless. Unless you know where an object is going, you can't fast forward it. If something goes off screen; you'll need to grab something else; if the scene changes, same thing. If things stop moving, you could easily skip huge sections of video… There are so many downside; and I can't see an advantage.
- guise, on 05/24/2008, -1/+1This would be even more awesome if integrated with touchscreen tech
- ahpro, on 05/24/2008, -2/+2It's one of those things that looks really cool and which you want but you have no practical use for lol.
- imcoffeegirl, on 05/24/2008, -1/+1LOL!!! Awesome idea!
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