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Can Digg Users Create the Next MySpace?
duggspace.com — Inspired by Kevin Rose's $200 investment, and its success, I ask this: Can the collaborative social news phenomenon Digg.com inspire the rapid development of a MySpace-like social network created, collaboratively, by Digg users (designers, programmers, beta testers), using open source web infrastructure?
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- petereality, on 10/15/2007, -11/+92im very interested, and can supply php/mysql/css/js/design
- Koncept, on 10/12/2007, -94/+17A. domain contains dugg
B. A couple of digg users and I have been working on this for months so if your interested, and want to help
AIM: Koncept64 - paulmdx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Koncept, can you tell us a bit more about it? Design, technologies used, etc?
- Koncept, on 10/12/2007, -57/+4I'd rather not post it in the open you can contact me via aim: "koncept64" or here: http://geekchat.net/chatv5/?load_theme=dark_pro
- HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -10/+68So, has Kevin had his lawyers send a cease and desist letter yet for using his trademarked name in your domain?
- PsychoPNut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39@Koncept I thought it was open scource?
- Llanowar, on 10/12/2007, -22/+3I'm in too!!!!
I can add my knowledge of this unknown thing called html or something. - nunbot, on 10/12/2007, -23/+110it will truly be the gayest site ever!
How are you going to compete with myspace in the chick department? - troydoogle7, on 10/12/2007, -7/+49I predict you suddenly realise that you have no financial interest in it and will lose interest/forget about it in 7 hours
- pwill, on 10/12/2007, -15/+49@nunbot
Yeah, totally homosexual.
There will be gay porn all over the site. Good call. - Egotrippin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+53Duggspace is not exactly the best name I've ever heard, but I do like the idea. But honestly I want to see Digg become a portal. I mean if they could add a Email service (YourDiggName@Digg.com), and a little more sprucing on the User Profile, I would hardly have to leave DIGG.
- Four4TeenPaste, on 10/12/2007, -48/+10I wouldn't call Digg a "phenomenon"... After all, it's just another news site like Shoutwire.
- Brutis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24so who gets the money when the site sells?
- Xeppo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Ummm... it's more like Shoutwire is just another site like Digg. Digg was revolutionary.
- Bamborzled, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28@Four4TeenPaste
Digg was created before Shoutwire. - Cronus6, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15"Duggspace is not exactly the best name I've ever heard, but I do like the idea. But honestly I want to see Digg become a portal. I mean if they could add a Email service (YourDiggName@Digg.com), and a little more sprucing on the User Profile, I would hardly have to leave DIGG."
I agree, I've always wondered where exactly the "social" is in "social news site".
The entire "friend" system here is, in my opinion, rather pointless as it is now.
Of course, I've also thought for a long time that the comment system would be better if it operated a little more like a "forum" as well. - JJP0223, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19@Cronus6
"I've always wondered where exactly the "social" is in "social news site""
The "social" aspect would be where users submit content to be viewed and reviewed by others. Then, those reading get to judge if they liked or disliked the article. That's social if you ask me. - dAbReAkA, on 10/12/2007, -16/+9the myspace concept sux..
- Avili, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27i'd help - php / asp / cgi / javascript / delphi if needed
but I'd expect 1) the service to be free and 2) either Not for Profit or that Profits from it go to a charity or something. - LordofChaosIori, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5I know darkbasic! You NEED me!
-_- Stupid public schools. - Cronus6, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@JJP0223:
I see your point, but I still fail to see any real "usefulness" of Digg's "friend" system. If it just had SOME sort of messaging (via profiles) back and forth, then I'd call it "social"
I think of Digg as more of "clearinghouse" for news stories that "geeky" people like. (and there are ALL sorts of "geeks", tech, political, etc etc.).
Yes it is "user driven", but not "social" by my definition of the word. Social requires more interaction. - joel8x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The concept is not all that bad considering Digg is seemingly inspired by Slashdot - think about it, they took away the editors and put the public in charge of choosing stories for the main page. Its Slashdot without the things that annoy people about Slashdot (namely the moderation system and the editors making stories appear days after they break).
If somebody can build a better Myspace, I would think it would work. Isn't Myspace just a "better" Friendster anyway? People are fickle - they would drop Myspace in a second if something better comes along. - dvasj2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2cool, yeah
waiting on my myspace page to load right now actually :|
i read the comments this spawned from it could be done people! - panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'll help but only if we write the site in PL/I
- Kazanoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I'd like to point out that the users of digg could never, ever, create something as horrible as myspace.
- magicmarc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Worth a shot if we work together. It will take much less time and hey, we all know what to do. I mean we do digg a lot of Web 2.0 stuff. And a lot of beautiful CSS design stuff.
I also can provide html/php/design and the rest.
@joel8x - Absolutely, people are joining facebook a lot now, mainly due to those emails saying "A new friend has added you to Facebook" that they send out a lot. - ryborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Who profits from this? I dont need to line anyone elses pockets.
- fudged71, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I actually ot shivers down my spine when I read this submission. Wow. After being on digg for quite a while, this is the first story that really gave me the gooseys. I'm sure that there is some amazing talent on this site, we just need to release it. After reading all of those "top 10 CSS web design tricks" posts, i'm sure at least somebody read a couple of them. What we need is a contest to see who can participate in this program. A prize of >$500 (given by kevin rose, of course, with his support of the project), given to the best UI design. No framework. Just the PHP, CSS, HTML, etc. needed to give the project some serious inspiration. A design that is soo beautiful, and "web 2.0 glossy" that it knocks the pants off of anybody who sees it. We need a SERIOUS web 2.0 styled UI that EVERYBODY will love at first site. Simplistic, yet creative. Sleek, yet smart (AJAX, of course). We need something HUGE to get this project rolling. Kevin Rose, where art thou?
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1[quote]How are you going to compete with myspace in the chick department?[/quote]
Free Zunes for any ladies joining the Digg?
I think it would be good if Digg added some social features though. So we can at least list our interests, some bio info and opinions or something. - birkoph, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I am also in. I will take all the profit for myself. that will be my job.
I agree this is pretty gay, since there are only like 10 chicks that use digg...4 of those and hardcore dykes.. and 2 aremguys pretending to be girls. - joel2600, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2look everyone. the friend options on digg seem to be limited because digg wants to focus on the news and only have a small amount to do with the fact that the community is what is driving the news. the economic system of only catering to a certain type of people in order to make yourself more marketable and profitable by targeting a specific group or area.
will this "duggspace" become the answer to a way to bring the digg community closer together and fill the gaps that some more active people on the web feel exist between them and their peers. no, no, no, no.
if it's not obvious to everyone, i'll explain what is going on. people that want a closer digg community put this garbage on the frontpage. big mistake. if a couple people actually start this project, it will be a wonder if it ever gets completed, and an absolute amazement if it functions, doesn't look like bile, and can handle the traffic and have a way to pay for it all. in the end, all you have is another myspace clone, great job! there are thousands of them out there on the web. goto any site where people bid on development work there are dozens of requests daily for people looking to create myspace clones. your site will not be any more popular or profitable than any of these, and nobody at digg will probably give you credit, or even acknowledge the fact that the site exists (outside of potential lawsuits). as some people have already observed, there will be little to no girls at all on this site (and we all see where that's going)... all this on top of the fact that "duggspace" is probably the most generic, worst name you could have possibly come up with.
ok, excuse me, i'm going to go submit some stories about cat farting or what i ate for dinner because you people seem to like to be digging up all the garbage in the cloud - joel2600, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2digg needs to implement more social networking features... and they need to do it on their own. most of them fail to realize how much larger they can make the community by bringing it together more closely.
they should have these features available and only enabled when users discover they exist and can enable them themselves in their own profile.
these things should include:
-the ability to create something like your own "homepage" or profile describing yourself
-messaging
-public bulletins?
the closer the digg community becomes, the stronger it is. just imagine all of the relationships that could be formed. professional and personal. it gives the opportunity to look more deeply into people who are willing to share with others, and then other people can take a greater interest in that person, what they are interested in and the news that they are providing to the public.
essentially this develops small communities within the larger digg community. this doesn't hurt the system by any means, in fact it makes things more interesting. you have an entire nation becoming a newsroom. more than just submitting articles and waiting for people to notice you have communities of people working together in a much more focused manner where everyone's just trying to digg into the news to "get it there first so to speak". so essentially your final outcome is that you've just taken this great thing and made it a million times stronger, and on the side you've strengthened the community that is building the site for you.
you can see this already with the friend features that digg has and the impact that it has for some people on what they can get promoted. that's just a small feature, but really it has such a huge impact on the entire site that nobody realizes. right now the front page content is balanced slightly between content more promoted by friends, and content more promoted by everyone individually. becoming more "social" makes the news more promoted by friends and their communities, rather by individuals. i really don't think this is a bad thing though because the individuals still make some impact, and also these sub-communities are reading the same articles that everyone is submitting. the people will always win. - charbarred, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think digg is afraid its users will interact. As opposed to Netscape where most interaction is positive, you know that diggers are just gonna get together to game the system.
- known, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1I would like to discuss a project with you.
I am reachable at ijawahar@gmail.com - known, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1I would like to discuss a project with you.
I am reachable at ijawahar@gmail.com
- Koncept, on 10/12/2007, -94/+17A. domain contains dugg
- boomshakalaka, on 10/12/2007, -3/+57i don't have any skills to offer, but i am interested in this as well. i will do whatever promotion i can.
- crawfishsoul, on 10/12/2007, -6/+65whoever dugg boomshakalakaka down really doesn't get the philosophy of open source. Maybe boom could do some debugging. Don't discourage people that may not have the skills to actually develop a project. Help is help and discouraging the community from helping in whatever way only hurts open-source projects.
We need more of boom's attitude on the Internet, the world for that matter.
edit: and dougless' comment, while humorous, doesn't help either. - hanapbuhay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"...if you build it, they will come."
Just make sure it's scalable, easy to use and robust.
- crawfishsoul, on 10/12/2007, -6/+65whoever dugg boomshakalakaka down really doesn't get the philosophy of open source. Maybe boom could do some debugging. Don't discourage people that may not have the skills to actually develop a project. Help is help and discouraging the community from helping in whatever way only hurts open-source projects.
- ScottMitchell, on 10/12/2007, -23/+118I vote, "No."
- robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -16/+38Second.
- mikev, on 10/12/2007, -12/+38What's the purpose? There are so many web services for photos, blogging, and profiles that even a diggspace wouldn't be able to compete...
- indicas, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17I forsee that business plan of "everyone getting equal pieces of the pie" causing a ***** storm..
- PAJK, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3And that's what separates the men from the boys: vision. Cynicism will get you nowhere.
- LeafsScore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I agree. They'll get a nice email from digg's lawyers by Monday afternoon.
- l3db3tt3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I don't think the point is to rival the big wigs. I think the point would be to get a niche group together.
- jadoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I can be the CEO.
I hold an MBA from HBS. - panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A most emphatic No. digg can't even avoid getting lured into posting myths as news.
- grammarpolice, on 10/12/2007, -26/+9I vote yes! I am an excellent beginning web/designer I will help.
- SleepJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12They are looking for beginner webs!
- Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Ironic user name you have there.
- paulmdx, on 10/12/2007, -19/+11I'm interested. I know some PHP/Perl, but I'm mostly a Microsoft whore (Visual C++/C#/ASP). I have large-scale database design skills as well as some graphic design ability. I also have some architecture design skills.
- miketrash, on 10/12/2007, -18/+11I'm in the same boat. I can do some fancy things with ASP.NET 2.0 and Ajax Extensions...if you consider doing it in C#/ASP.NET I'm game.
- calebdesu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+92I've got some l33t QBASIC skillz, if you're interested in doing it in QBASIC.
- PsychoPNut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@calebdesu
word - danzarrella, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18d00d qbasic rox, nibbles for life
- ScottMaximus1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42I only write in Assembly
Are you writing it in Assembly? - madhaha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yes, on my Amiga... we're hosting on an Amiga right?
- Robotsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18.data
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end main - JacNet, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2I'm for sinking the microsoftie boat, who's with me?!?
- digital11, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Those of you digging down the people who mentioned ASP.NET obviously don't have any real-world experience running a massive scalable website. I'm the lead architect for a completely dynamic, database intensive site that runs entirely on ASP.NET 2.0/SQL2K5 and it flys... Oh, did I mention it does 1 million+ pageviews a day and has seen peaks of 200+ requests/sec w/o any speed degredation? But oh yea, since its built using MS products, it must suck...
The anti-Microsoft bias is just getting ridiculous. Unless you personally have experience and are familiar with the pros/cons of a technology, don't knock someone just for mentioning it. - DieselDaddy, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6The ASP.net / C# / Sql 2005 stack is indeed a very nice approach. I develop php/java/ROR and i can say that i can get more done with the MS stack. You haters can hate all you want. MS makes good developer tools.
- sickanimations, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5ASP.NET, C#, et al are extremely scalable! Stupid bias.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3digital11: I doubt this little project is going to have hundreds of dollars to spend on Microsoft software. It is however very possible to find a PHP guru who will donate their time and knowledge for free. (and the software is of course free)
- xxNIRVANAxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@digital11: What's the site?
- digital11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@deadbaby: I don't disagree. I was just making a point against the people who just jump on the MS bashing bandwagon cause its cool. The one thing MS is actually decent at is development products.
@xxNIRVANAxx: I don't particularly care to associate 'bragging' (although only to make a point) about the site I/we built with the name of the site itself. That said, it probably wouldn't be hard to figure out if you look at my digg history.
- mrash506, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2Intersting, but it wont work tbh myspace is too big
- haveacigar, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6I would vote yes. I am all up for this idea because myspace has a ***** design, which i believe digg could exploit to gain more users. I know that i would recommend all my friends to move from myspace onto duggspace.
Also i would definitely help. I know xhtml css and php need to brush up on mysql though- r2700, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13DuggSpace is just the temporary name - digg™ is a trademark of digg.com; duggspace.com is neither affiliated with nor would have existed without digg.com, nor will it profit directly at all, ever, from that name. Otherwise I'd probably get eaten by what must now be well compensated Digg(tm) lawyers =)
- datter, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Here, if you MUST... just join the Digg group on Vox. :)
http://digg.groups.vox.com/ - sse1281, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19If it has "Kevin Rose" or "Digg" in the article its automatic front page material.
- f0dder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Don't forget "collaborative social news phenomenon".
- PAJK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2We haven't heard that before.
- fudged71, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1yes.... we have.. *****
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- SystmBetatester, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39as long as it pisses off myspace fags, and raises out collaberative knowledge. im for it.
- l337phoenix, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3agreed
- Shriker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Sounds lame, but hey, there's a large market of teenagers out there. Maybe something will come of it. The idea just sort of gives me a headache though. :/
- foobar5892, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yea, but lame is the new cool. Just take a look at MySpace.
- inarguable, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28uh,no. It cant. Digg users have the ability to squelch viewpoints by burying comments that disagree with the prevailing viewpoint, whether the prevailing viewpoint is factually accurate or not. That is Digg's greatest flaw. Of course, you wont get to read this comment, because in 3...2...1 it is probably gonna be buried deeper than Hoffa.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9so kicking myspace's @$$ is in some way against the prevailing viewpoint of the digg community?
that begs the question: what digg are YOU from?
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9so kicking myspace's @$$ is in some way against the prevailing viewpoint of the digg community?
- kuzotz, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3a large market fo teenagers. Lets start making products that require them to stick it up their asses, and say its the kewlest thing ever. Trust me on this one. Teenagers are so damn influenced by mainstream media its ridiculious, and they support it by saying "Things ar emainstream because people like it."
When I refute "no things are mainstream because idiotic, and easily influenced, and easily manipulated teenagers like it."
I'm serious if you made a commercial stating that drinking a glass of vommit is kewl. I swear they would buy it up so fast.- boomshakalaka, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4"I'm serious if you made a commercial stating that drinking a glass of vommit is kewl. I swear they would buy it up so fast."
I'm on it.... :D
how about a glass of vomit shoved up their asses?
- boomshakalaka, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4"I'm serious if you made a commercial stating that drinking a glass of vommit is kewl. I swear they would buy it up so fast."
- Nicklogan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17why would anybody want to make a website like myspace? why?
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Socialising websites isn't a bad thing.
- MScrip, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8> "why would anybody want to make a website like myspace? why?"
Because if you build a website where users faithfully check it 80 times a day, you have huge ad revenue.
MySpace IS ugly, and it has its share of horror stories dealing with pedophelia... but it's one of the most visited site on the web, with the kind of numbers that make its owners cream.
Trying to unseat Mypace and Facebook from their social networking throne will be tough... kinda like making an iPod killer. But, social networking IS the newest web app, and it has no signs of stopping any time soon. - b05q, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7MScrip:
i don't think myspace's owners (Newscorp) are creaming over the numbers. myspace's numbers are going down.
i think they're realizing they, like Time/Warner and many others, paid WWAAAYYY too much money for latest internet fad.
myspace is AOL 2.0 (horrible design/functionality, young ignorant userbase, public hysteria about 'the children' being corrupted by spending time there)
[why not come up with an original idea?] - MScrip, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2> "i don't think myspace's owners (Newscorp) are creaming over the numbers. myspace's numbers are going down. i think they're realizing they, like Time/Warner and many others, paid WWAAAYYY too much money for latest internet fad. myspace is AOL 2.0 (horrible design/functionality, young ignorant userbase, public hysteria about 'the children' being corrupted by spending time there)
[why not come up with an original idea?]"
By numbers I meant pageviews and visitors. It's still one of the most visited websites, and gets tons of traffic. It might not last forever, but it has opened people up the the idea of social networking websites.
Is social networking still considered a fad? Facebook is doing well, even though it's the same type of website as MySpace. Is e-mail or instant messaging a fad? They are now part of our culture. MySpace may slum its way out of existence, but better sites like Facebook will continue to exist. Or the next site. Whatever. The point is that sites LIKE MySpace and Facebook will continue. Social networking sites, that is.
Original idea? The web has been built on websites competing with each other. Webshots and Flickr? Yahoo mail and Gmail? Wordpress.com and Blogger.com? There are plenty of sites for everyone.
The point is, create a site that will keep your users coming back for more. If the Digg community could build a social networking site, that would be great. They're halfway there already. I can see a day where Digg.com has all sorts of new things for its users, like photo albums, bookmarks, messaging... a whole community. And if it's fueled by its own tech-savvy users, that would be heaven. - mcduckov, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The amount of investment in time and money to do something original on the web is growing. This is especially true if you want to do something on the scale of myspace. Wikipedia is a good example of how many users need to devote a big chunk of their life for free in order to make it work. Even with that they still need pretty hefty ongoing donations just for servers and bandwidth.
If you look at most of the popular websites they started with just a few people who had a vision. Trying to START with a huge community and work backwards to a popular website would be...interesting. I'd surely check it out if the website ever got up and running.
I have often thought that the next big challenge to Web 2.0 is to allow people to sew together a credible online identity. How it would look is really hard to say but I think things are already headed in that direction. I have always thought that slashdot's moderation system is a work of genius that never gets the recognition that it deserves. They found a truly innovative method for socially ranking users that is extremely difficult to game (despite being transparent) and works quite well. I guess part of why it never really gets the recognition it deserves is that for a person to really benefit from it they have to study it and carefully manipulate their own settings so they see only posts they want to see. If I loved it so much why am I on Digg? Well, while I thought the moderation system was brilliant I also thought the editors were complete and utter morons when it came to story selection. I was personally offended that Malda had denied over and over there were slashvertisements among other things.
One of the visions I have for Web 3.0 is one where everyone has an integrated online presence that you create by your participation in participating Web 2.0 enabled sites. How complicated would it be? It would likely be very complicated and it is unclear to me why someone would want to participate and why the websites would want to send user data to a central clearinghouse of user identity. What is clear to me is that people strive for status online the same way they do in real life. Digg has incorporated this in a really ham-fisted and non-transparent way with the friends system and the ranking of users. What troubles me about Digg is that the vast majority of users are frozen out of the process. Again I have to go back to slashdot because they just did so many things right. All regular users of /. are eligible to receive a limited number of modpoints and then they can use those to mod comments up or down. As a check to that, the mods are subject to metamoderation.
In short, if I were starting small I'd find a Perl guru or two to first learn how moderation works in slashcode, accept its brilliance, and then modify it to include user submission and posting of articles. I have tried in the past to hire someone to do this but the quote I get is a hell of a lot higher than 200$. I have mapped out how it would work and I think it would kick the living crap out of digg and every other Web 2.0 site out there. However, the perl in slashcode is hardly simple and the mods required are pretty extensive (it is, however, opensource). I'd also want to streamline the interface for users to change their comment viewing preferences. In the end I'd want to develop APIs for Web 2.0 sites to share user moderation data to allow for the creation of the integrated presence mentioned above.
mikeurl on AIM if any perl guru is nutty enough to want to give it a go.
- echeese, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Like Digg, I think that PHP/MySQL would be a fine choice for such a site. I am fairly adept in both of these, as well as client side scripting (JS). Count me in.
- PsychoPNut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think it's lame... but that's just me. Also the title and hopes for you should be... Can digg users create something better then MySpace..
Cause at least for me it's buggy as all hell.- Rhelim, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10better ***than***
- PsychoPNut, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3oops... looks like you're better thAn me at spelling
:-p - diggdallas, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3better than I am
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13ZOMG! Open source grammar! Now, that is what I call Digg user collaboration!
/sarcasm
- Zalo81, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I agree this idea could be a disaster. I think Digg works just great and could have more options to add to your profile. As long as things don't get out of hand.
- groperdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I promise to invest seed money if the idea becomes a reality and has some potential. I do not mean this as a joke, since my work currently requires managing and consulting with over 300 other websites. However, i think duggspace.com is probably not a good domain name for a new startup since it won't get its own image and traction, and will probably be viewed as a joke. Serious attempts require serious image-making. I think.
- jafer24, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree, duggspace just sounds like a myspace knockoff, we need to come up with a new name that's still catchy, but separates itself from other myspace like sites.
- Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2newsplace]
my lack of inspiration is amazing
- ike368, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4but... myspace sucks...
(im just saying, you might not be happy when instead of the digg of today you're left with another myspace) - Rhelim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13One MySpace is bad enough.
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4It could be done differently though.
Better HTML/CSS editing
No adverts?
The site can get donations from people who use it to go towards server costs?
Not overrun by ***** emo's.
Faster
Can anyone think of more ideas? - jtjenn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If we keep diggspace from the myspace group of people, maybe we won't have as much problem. I doubt they are interested in digg content anyway.
- Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4OpenID login
(just a thought)
custom layouts for profiles
webspace for hosting images videos other stuff (doesnt have to be huge and could lead to something like pro accounts)
mini-news areas
(areas in profile showing news that the users voted for)
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4It could be done differently though.
- seiha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4yeah right
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5While this is a great idea, Digg users would need to create a Anti-Emo filter of somekind or it'll just become what Myspace has developed into..
- Kosterfield, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33Facebook anyone?
- mathwizxp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Yeah, I'll stick with Facebook.
- l3db3tt3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Makes me think they would have had a few more yes votes if they would have called the site duggbook
- Satertek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea we don't need another.
- timdorr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well, this story basically describes Facebook. They were started very cheaply, are built on open source, and don't suck. Plus, they were built out of already existing real-world friendships (college students) versus people we don't know on Digg. So, I think this has about 0 chance of success.
- tecknoplasma, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I'm in. I'm able to supply my skillz; Graphics Skillz, DJ/Musician Skillz, Bow Staff Skillz. MySpace sites digg guys with Skillz.
- mattyxo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I knew that someone using a 'z' in place of an 's' was from myspace.
- Deranged, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2http://www.duggmirror.com
- geoffreyireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12First thing you need to do since this is on the frontpage is to buy a new server.
- mattyxo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed. Horribly slow website... forums are WAY too slow.
- CapeKid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6How ironic that they didn't expect the digg effect.
- SuperBTZ, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2This could be really amazing. A collaborative effort by some of the greatest minds on the internet.
- ColdShoulder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Greatest minds? Really? I'm on here, they can't be that great.
- tuartboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ superBTZ
If that was a joke, good job. If not, I feel sorry for you.
- barryiggins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14To be the next MySpace, you'd have to pay their top pedophiles to come join duggspace.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5you must be thinking about netscapespace.. we don't stoop to that level.
- stelriah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2nutscrape
- Louis11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What happens if the site get huge, who profits?
- PsychoPNut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10me!
I get all 10 bucks! - raven4, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Kevin Rose?
- ScottMaximus1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Your mother
- Rhelim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10He mentioned Kevin Rose, digg him up.
- PsychoPNut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10me!
- vfrex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For it to be successful, the service would have to reach "critical mass". Facebook has already done so, and it will be very very difficult to win that away from them. Being open source will not be compelling enough for anybody to switch. I don't see why myspace is still mentioned as the de facto site for social networking anyway.
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2How about being ad free? That'd be a nice touch over mySpace.
- newyawker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That would be awesome. I would love to see myspace be conquered.
- standsolid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25the real challenge is if the 13-year-old boys on digg can convince the 13-year-old girls on myspace to use their service.
The programming of the site is pretty trivial. - d3designs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Step 1: Get a decent web server that can at least host a static html page.
- iTorrey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3It's very misleading to say that Digg was created for $200.
- mileswj, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3This is so retarded... and couldnt you think of a name that does not deal with "space".
Also this will get no were as big as myspace. - idiggeverything, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4F'ing lame.
- leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Google tried making their own social network called Orkut. It basically failed to gain traction in the US, and was only really successful in Brazil.
It makes you wonder... If Google can't make a decent Myspace competitor, what makes you think that Digg can?
Besides, Digg's core user base seems to consist of 15 year old Apple fanboys. You don't exactly have a big talent pool to draw from here.- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Orkut is also big in India.
- CasaMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's foolish to say Orkut doesn't compete with MySpace! Maybe not in the same demographics. But their traffic is about the same size..
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?site0=orkut.com&site1=myspace.com&site2=&site3=&site4=&y=t&z=1&h=300&w=500&range=6m&size=Medium&url=orkut.com - kevinbowen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, I for one, up until today, I thought Orkut was still in invite-only. I guess they've only recently opened it to the public. Yay! YASNS!
- ExposeIT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Prashant, is that you? How is IUB treating you?
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@ExposeIT:
Whoa.. yes it is indeed me. Univ was good last year, not quite so this year. Who're you, btw? I have a slight hunch but don't want to post here.
- 47knight, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I have some HTML skill, and know how to use power point, and word to it's fullest extent, count me in.
- cornyflake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Congratulations, you're above average.
- vammirato, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'll join up my mad Access AND mail merge skillz to the cause.
I can also script server-side JS on a netscape enterprise server like it was 1999....
- ColdShoulder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2One thing that I think could draw users away from Myspace, would be the ability to easily change the look and feel of your page. Right now it takes either basic programing knowledge, or copy and pasting premade scripts in just to change little simple things.
- d3designs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Has nobody tried StumbleUpon yet? http://www.stumbleupon.com/
- vijaymv_in, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I am for it guys. We should make one. My SQL , C, C++
Statistics and analytics - cornyflake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Looking at the caliber of the average digg user, the "next myspace" would be worse than the current myspace. Digg me down and then go pop a zit.
- convictravers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Your so cool!
- vammirato, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Digg user making fun/disparaging the rest of the Digg base...haven't seen that before. What the ***** makes him so much better than everyone else?
- darkmule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Isn't digg, in its own way, a social networking site already? What would creating some clone type system that allowed people to blog do? It would probably bloat it up and make it get old fairly quickly. I don't think thats the purpose digg was created. In some aspects its a social networking place because you rate and make comments on different articles, and you the user are the one who makes an impact in moving that article to wherever it goes. In another aspect its a place to get information, read news of all sorts, different view points on that news. I think digg already has all it would ever need, and a community effort at creating something more social would be a huge failure, because it doesn't have the people who created digg behind it.
- mileswj, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I love how he already bought the domain, rofl... a ***** one at that.
- Vizin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Domains are what, $7 at Godaddy right now?
Not everyone depends on their $5 a week allowance to get by.
- Vizin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Domains are what, $7 at Godaddy right now?
- TorgoIsBurning, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0okay i'm in. i am happy to announce myself as the new senior vice president of marketing. btw so who gets all the dough when we cash in big?
- TorgoIsBurning, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0*****. someone already made this comment and i missed it. throw some dirt on me please.
- alekgv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12why do people still use myspace when facebook exists?
myspace: slow, works half the time, errors, cluttered as hell, bloated as your mom on her period, for some reason it always thinks everyone is Australian, spammmmmmmmm, unknown friend requests, i could go on on and on and on!
facebook: clean, fast, streamlined, elegant, no errors, waaaaay more features, unlimited photos, albums, no ***** music on everyones profile, standard profile designs, no spam, very few ads, infinately easier to find people you know, etc.
baffles me.- indiekid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1myspace: awful, but with music
facebook: awesome, without music
I use both, facebook for all my social networking, myspace for my music. I'm also a big user of purevolume
- indiekid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1myspace: awful, but with music
- rationalist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Why not take the profit motive out of this altogether and make it a true collaborative Open Source project? Everyone contributing should benefit, not just those who are "accepted" as original developers; the need to profit will inevitably conflict with the need to best serve the community; Open Source has proven its effectiveness in creating best-of-breed products and services to compete with the biggest for-profit projects.
If you want to change the rules of the game, go all the way: make this about serving everyone with a social networking tool "for the rest of us".
Take greed out of the equation.
I'd sign on to a project like that.- r2700, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I like it - if you're contributing you benefit - and again, DuggSpace was chosen as a temporary name, not intended to make a cent, ever. Just as duggmirror.com has said, it is neither affiliated with nor would have existed without digg.com, and both digg and dugg are trademarks of digg.com.
It'd be great to build something in a craigslist or Wikipedia-like way that didn't spend screen real estate on ads, but didn't require annual fundraisers or paid listings to stay afloat. - rationalist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Run it on a distributed architecture, no need for centralized ($$) servers, nothing for DRM Nazis to shut down.
- r2700, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I like it - if you're contributing you benefit - and again, DuggSpace was chosen as a temporary name, not intended to make a cent, ever. Just as duggmirror.com has said, it is neither affiliated with nor would have existed without digg.com, and both digg and dugg are trademarks of digg.com.
- bairy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3zoints.com are already out there with a "myspace clone", including drag and drop personal pages, and linking your profile across multiple forums.
Very dedicated team, very friendly, you can find em on theadminzone.
Disclaimer: I don't work for them, not being paid by them. Just being informative. - unclefrank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Do we really want another myspace? I think 1 is too many.
- GreySpec, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3This is a great idea...I hate myspace, and i think it sucks compared to other similar sites. I do believe that this project is possible and a great idea.
NOTE: While designing this project, it would be important to observe how & why MySpace became such a success. Also, my X-Girlfriend knows the real "Tom" personally. I can ask him anything
ALSO: Just because guys comprise the predominant majority of techys and geeks. There is a preponderance of female (and HOT FEMALES) that are increasingly making themselves known in the industry. I'm sure as the popularity of the TECH sector increases, SO WILL THE GIRLS IN IT.
DON'T DISCOURAGE THEM. Remember, girls like smart/optimistic guys, NOT negative dumb asses. -
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