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- rodball, on 10/12/2007, -1/+51The article states, 3rd paragraph, "The biggest problem with most of these homepages isn’t so much the technology, ... but rather the lack of any noticeable business model." It has nothing to do with AJAX; it's almost as if the author just wanted to say "AJAX."
- MatthewK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+39AJAX is a Dish Liquid/Soap with a variety of scents: http://www.ajax.com
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17i guess it further proves the mis-use of 'keywords' to get attention on digg & other sites.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19I'm gonna sing the doom song now! doom doom doom doom.. doom doom doom dooooom...
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12At least he didn't use the word "ever" or end it in an exclamation point.
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10And a lack of any noticeable business model makes them different from other personal... oh wait they said personalized... Uh, what ARE we talking about here exactly?
- drakethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8People on digg have no sense of humor. How can you mod down MatthewK unless you take life way too seriously.
- im12env, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9What the hell is AJAX????? besides every second storry on Digg...
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8reported as inaccurate
- gridrunner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"...providing an instant barrier to the 8 out of 10 cats who only use IE"
Man, when did web technology chat get so street? - YukiCuss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Not that any of that code can do anything to the user's machine, otherwise I think the virus potential for any JavaScript, not just AJAX, would be huge.
On a separate note, the confirmation code I have to enter is `JE5US'. - rodrigo74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just do it, you don't have to post a message saying it...
- infra172, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This sounds like one of those teasers for a local news program. "The polio vaccine. Its saved millions of lives...but is there a dark side? Also, children's vitamins. They're shaped like cartoon characters...but could they cause cancer? Find out at 10!"
- hoofarted, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Yoda, is that you?
- yongfook, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4hah! got to get me some "secret revenue sauce" to go onto my mystery capital burger and covert sales fries.
- whisperedlie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If digg.com were the place to find articles for aging-hipster-born-again-tech-enthusiast entrepreneurialists on how to make a quick dirty dollar stealing someone else's "business model" (one which is dead-ended anyways) by creating ***** Web 2.0 homepage portals, then this article might be somewhat interesting.
- hoofarted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"...has some kind of secret revenue sauce" - Wish I had this kind of revenue source.
- thatsiebguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'd worry more about the security of AJAX and its running of javascript code on the users machine, not the lack of "business model"
- CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Ajax is this generations Image Rollover. Weee.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I am digging for the fact that it linked me to something i never knew about, http://www.netvibes.com, OMG where the ***** have i been???
- OptimismPrime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"At least he didn't use the word "ever" or end it in an exclamation point."
My thoughts exactly.... i had to read the headline twice to be sure it wasn't just wishful thinking it didn't look like:
"AJAX Hompages, the most doomed hompages EVER!" - noneloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's interesting, because the main example he gave to support was Fold.com, and their site is live now and it looks like they are counting down to something big on Sunday:
http://digg.com/software/Everything_you_read_about_Fold.com_is_wrong. - tybris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow, they actually prefer performance over pathetic visual effects. I'm amazed.
- tybris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Any technology using Javascript Absent XML. At least that's what it means out here on digg."
true :) - panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Any technology using Javascript Absent XML. At least that's what it means out here on digg.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Since it's "the lack of any noticeable business model." that is the problem of "AJAX Homepages" , I guess that will be YouTube's downfall as well.
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"Not that any of that code can do anything to the user's machine, otherwise I think the virus potential for any JavaScript, not just AJAX, would be huge."
Don't worry, just use IE and it'll be able to do whatever it wants. - Orbatos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That's http://www.netvibes.com (without the comma), never mind the fact that the google /ig page does the same thing without any configuration.
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ajax is this generations, useful tool/feature, that will be abused to death by the amateur and novice web-developers.
Same went for Animated GIFs.
Ajax is superbly powerful and very useful. Look at digg, that is a very good implementation of Ajax with a valid/justified purpose, and there are others out there. But some do seem to use it for the sake of having Ajax on their sites. - uymai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1now i feel old, i thought it was only a powder..
- Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think he misses the point somewhat. AJAX doesn't make money on it's own; it's a concept and approach to web app. development that permits new business models and enables all sorts of interactivity on the web that prior required Flash or Java. In the end, it's still about business models; the market will sort it out, but AJAX simply permits a wider range of possibilities. Besides that, a lot of web apps that kinda sucked via the old methods work rather nicely when AJAX is properly applied. Gmail and Google maps for example. After using an AJAXed mapping system, I never want to go back.
Lastly, the author overlooks something rather important. AJAX might not make you money, but it sure can save you money in bandwidth costs.
Dynamically loading the parts that are updated sure beats reloading a fresh page every time something on the page changes. In a heavily trafficked web forum such as Slashdot, if comments were simply added and the pages updated via AJAX techniques rather than reloading the entire comment packed page, the bandwidth used could easily be cut in half, I think. - Fanon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ajax stands for "Asynchronous JavaScript and XML". Basically, it's using JavaScript to communicate with the server without refreshing the page.
- martinus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1AJAX is a very nice, shiny new hammer. It is such a nice hammer that all problems suddenly look like nails.
- b7j0c, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i like netvibes, its a nice rss reader, but i can't possibly see how you could use it as a homepage. a decently-populated netvibes page takes nearly ten seconds to load. compare this to a my.yahoo.com or google/ig page which will load usually in two seconds.
really i don't even understand the premise of a 'homepage'. i just have mine set to a blank page now. why do i want any site loaded by default? if i want my.yahoo, i'll use the bookmark. - chesterjosiah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think he's talking about all those pages like Fold.com, Goowy.com, Netvibes.com, Google's Personalized Homepage etc. The sites that have configurable modules. Just a heads up for the rest of you who use a little Ajax in your pages. You have nothing to worry about.
- spect3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ajax has a time and a place. Much like flash, java, and any other programming language out there.
As long as your site is:
- Navigational and/or efficient
- Clean
- Easy to read
- Has a clear & consise objective.
You should be ok, despite the effects, engines and features. - phreakout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually the problem is way more serious than the article states some of these pages use HTML, by the same logic HTML pages are doomed. ;-)
I think the whole disaster derives from the fact that the author forgot to qualify the article with something like "Some" or "Some stuff you don't really care about" or some such. - magicbullets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Are we reading the same article here? It doesn't read like an attack on Ajax. It doesn't once say AJAX IS DOOMED!
It talks about revenue models and the author seems to be using the term "ajax homepage" to mean "personalized homepage". - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The Ajax are a soccer team from Amsterdam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Ajax_Amsterdam
oh wait... wrong Ajax.... - thushan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Ajax Spray n Wipe, Anti-bacterial (tried finding the commercial for that in Aus but cant...) so in the meantime, heres the old one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9nFujETdXc&search=ajax%20clean - szembek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No.
- MatthewK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Glad to see some people here have a sense of humor ;) hehe
- Neticule, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3reported as inaccurate
- creeptick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0AJAX... AJAX..... AJAX! ... AJAX!!! d00med! AJAX! AJAX! AJAX! AJAX! AJAX! AJAX!!
The desperation for audience clicks is driving the doom-monger hacks to write up articles with the idiotically provocative headlines on par with the hook lines your Local TV news reporters spout before going to commercial. *sigh* - OptimismPrime, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6*mod up*
G.I.R. for President!
ZIM for the one pulling all the strings from the shadows! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"I am digging for the fact that it linked me to something i never knew about, http://www.netvibes.com, OMG where the ***** have i been???"
Not wanting to be cynical, but I think thats the purpose of this article. It smells of paid-for news release.
So does the "Google Likely To Buy Another Online Office App" article from a few minutes ago. Its pretty obvious that Thumbstacks paid for that one. - RBasil, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2reported as inaccurate
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6I love Gir!
- im12env, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2HA HA LOL, I was specificly refering to the webdesign AJAX..... lol
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