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- LoganKriete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: no digg. Dupe (I've seen this "collection" of Ajax tips more than 10 times on news sites since September alone) + not as worthy of a digg as, say, a new, revolutionary Ajax site.
- unknownsoldier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Anyone else reckon the constant ajax stories are getting a bit long in the tooth?
- mondo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How are people coding to get around the back button issue?
- nonokiaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lul.
- karenin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0_How are people coding to get around the back button issue?_
If you do the site properly it will work fine with back buttons, because you'll have a different url for different resources. AJAX aka remote content should be used to replace small parts of a view (ie update a list in response to a selection, insert content in a div) rather than to try to render the whole UI. In this sense gmail has this wrong as it should give you an url for each unique resource you look at, and allow you to easily store and pass on state via the url (though they get away with it because all your mail is private anyway). That's why they're called Universal RESOURCE Locators. - SubZ3r0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yea im gonna start a site duha - Digg Users Hate AJAX - duha.com rofl
- circusbred, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dupe-o-rific:
http://digg.com/programming/Ajax_Mistakes_3
http://digg.com/programming/Ajax_Mistakes
-digg +reported - BladeMelbourne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Legibility Problems - Tiny text tyrannizes users by dramatically reducing task throughput. IE4 had a great UI that let users easily change font sizes; let’s get this design back in the next generation of browsers. Let users control font size.
This functionality is still there. It can be done via toolbar menu, View menu or even with the scrollwheel.
Now I use Ctrl [or Apple] +, - and 0. - MrBester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"there no such bloody thing as ajax. pls drop the ***** acronomys"
True. That's the first mistake, it's called Remote Scripting - unknownsoldier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0mondo the usual solution is to encode a variable into the file. ajax.php?partofsite=3432432423423432 That way browser's have a unique identifier, going back goes to the previous one.
- LoganKriete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@unkownsoldier: That method would create lots of useless overhead for the server, storing thousands of different page views/renderings. The most common method is to use something built into a library, like Dojo, or build you own, wherein when the user hits something that would normally cause a state change, the JS "backs up" the page and stores it in a hidden iframe, causing the browser to go "back" to that content when the back button is hit. But it's complicated either way.
BTW, you don't program "in" Ajax, as it's not a programming language. You program "with the principles of" Ajax. - yoyoplay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think we have enough Ajax stories...
- muramasa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"programming in AJAX." wtf?
- lilme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's a good try, but I can't agree with most of what he says. No digg.
- SecularG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0THANK YOU logankriete. I pity the fool who looks to program in Ajax. If anyone is programming in Ajax they are probably a chemist hacking away at chemical codes on scrap paper to make a better cleaning product.......
- waiwai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0>CSS makes it really easy to get around font sizing, and a smart browser can
>leverage this to its advantage. The problem you have is with Microsoft, take
>it up with them ;)
It's trivial to get MSIE to behave like FireFox re font sizing. There is a checkbox in the options to ignore website font sizes. MSIE actually follows absolute size CSS font rules better in this regard than FireFox does and correctly makes the non-standard behavior a non-default option. - mrgomel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Up next: "How to clean your kitchen with AJAX."
- emjayess, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't even get here very often, and I knew it was a dupe right away... How about a story about how, in the future, the digg engine will auto-detect duplicates automatically, at the point of posting, and scold the person posting for not digging around some before posting!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I dont mind the constant Ajax stories, as long as they bring something new to the table. It's been a long time since we've seen anything new. This same article, nearly verbatim each time, has been submitted 3 times.
- BladeMelbourne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@geminitojanus
You should re-read my original comment. This article is suggesting that MSIE 5 and 6 do not allow the user to resize fonts using a menu, a button or keyboard/mouse actions. This is not true - as evident by my quoted text above being removed from the article.
I also said that I use Ctrl 0, Ctrl - and Ctrl + ... this implies that I use Mozilla (and sometimes it's lesser brother FireFox). Please dont preach to me about Mozilla, I have been using it since before M14.
I have no issue with Microsoft regarding the ability for the end user to resize the fonts on a rendered page dynamically. CSS 2 and 3 support is another story ;-) - bull, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's true that there are a lot of AJAX stories lately. But I'm getting more tired of the constant AJAX bashing in the comments. And I like this article +Digg.
- LoganKriete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@emjayess: perhaps we can combine the auto-dupe engine with those funky Microsoft chairs that debuted yesterday!
@SecularG: Thanks! I certainly agree that anyone who's programming in Ajax may make the world a cleaner place, but won't help us out at all toward Web 2.0! - rksubbu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Scroll down to read comments about the article - Get a different view!
- Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No digg, it doesn't include what I think would be the most basic information...HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEMS YOU PRESENT!
- tablatronix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wtf is wrong with you people.
who digs this crap ?
This isnt news, the link doesnt have any content.
And AJAX isnt some magical new thing. Its as old as httpRequest and thats old. - Mike.Dunn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hey, you wanna get a story on the front page of digg???
1) Put AJAX in the title
2) Mention google some where in the description
3) mention Ipod/Apple in the body..
That ***** will rise to the front quick. - nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh, great....ANOTHER ajax post. How about we just create a separate category for AJAX stories.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@blademelbourne
Firefox has a perfectly working font system already, as do many browsers. CSS makes it really easy to get around font sizing, and a smart browser can leverage this to its advantage. The problem you have is with Microsoft, take it up with them ;) - bmw@, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Comprehensive list. Digg++
- karch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Oh, for Christssake.. What's next, "How to make muffins with Ajax?"
- Ridernyc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0The AJAX spam is getting really annoying.
- rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0do people just hit digg when they see AJAX in the name? seriously. get over it.
- SubZ3r0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0lame it off frontpage people I dont want to see anything ajax / javascript related its all gay!
- SubZ3r0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0come up with some origonal stories stop with this ajax ***** no one cares about!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0there no such bloody thing as ajax. pls drop the ***** acronomys


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