Anonymous are lightweights compared to the Cult of $cientology. Even still there's no proof that the Co$ didn't threaten themselves to discredit Anonymous. The Co$ has used the same tactics against Paulette Cooper. In the end the Co$'s dirty tricks, and litigious nature will only keep making more enemies. It'll be their demise.
Why is Co$ going to a civil court to counter these so-called threats? Is it because they are afraid that if law enforcement was brought in (as one would normally expect in such a case) that law enforcement will find that the anonymous person on the internet that created this video is in fact affiliated with Co$?
Doubt is not a crime. Questioning is not treason. No matter what some may tell you.
I know that some on the inside are worried about speaking out in fear of losing their family and friends due to the disconnection policy and I can understand the frustration that must cause. Know that there are places you can safely do this, places where you can speak your mind, anonymously, without fear of being labeled an SP (and risk losing your family and friends to policy)
In April, anonymous plans something called "Operation Reconnect". Operation Reconnect was planned in order to help families who have been torn apart by disconnection. To get parents back in comm with their children. To unite friends and family.
Wow, most of the comments that are below that are being dug down (as in most of the comments supporting the CoS) are brand new accounts, only used to Digg or comment this thread.
*VERY IMPORTANT NOTE TO ALL PEACEFUL PROTESTERS!! *
"OK... taps microphone, I need everyone's attention, especially LA Anons and Clearwater...
This is from my telephone notes regarding what the OT Committe members were told during the super duper secret OSA briefing. Dont ask me questions cause Im telling you all I know.
This will be no surprise, my source is certain that Scientology is planning to choreograph an incident of violence, using their children. this was implied, I don't have the exact words just the summation, that Scientology wants and desires a confrontation.. they would LIKE to create a riot..
OT committee member and their families, public scientologists And their families are invited for a pancake breakfast at 9 AM... the children will be doing fun things like "Face painting"
If you did not know about the facepainting you might THINK they were demonstrators, right?
The "breakfast will start at 9:30, bring the kids "face painting and clowns"
Nota Bene: Scientology NEVER says bring the kids....cause the kids don't have wallets.
Buses will take you at 11 AM to the respective locations of the event, Ruth Eckart Hall in CW and in LA the Shrine..
The LRH event WILL BE this saturday.
(methinks so that if one of them gets knocked down by one of THEIR operatives, it will be plain to see its a scientologist kid)
They will be putting their nastiest pieces of work on the front lines to get the protestors spun up and angry, using fighting words. They hope to crate enough confusion so that their perpetrators of a choreographed incident will escape and protestors will get blamed.
And this rubbish is has the gall to call themselves church?, Im sorry I dont have 'clearer' notes.. I will read replies and try to ask my sources questions as posed but I need to write another brief..
CW protestors should watch out for a nasty clam named Ian Shillington"
It appears we are dealing with bigger sociopaths (the Co$ leadership) than expected. I, for one will be even more vigilant than usual. Things could get pretty hairy the moment the cornered rat known as David Miscaviage begins to snarl.
ATTN Scientologists who received the email to post on this thread:
You don't scare us. We feel sorry for you. And most of all, we aren't going to fall for your brainwashing *****. The internet is not your forte, as displayed by the number of thumbs down you've all received.
I feel sorry for the lot of you. Im a scientologist and I love my life!! And really there is nothing you can say ,threat, write, or protest about in person or on the internet that will change my mind so you can just STOP TRYING haha! I am a sucessfull happy person and I bet none of you can live with the fact that other people are actually doing well in life. You can all jump on my comment like the pack of hungary wolves you are, but just know that I WILL NOT EVER TAKE ANYHTING YOU SAY TO HEART AND YOU WILL NEVER STOP ME FROM BEING A SCIENTOLOGIST!!!!
There's no excuse for committing criminal hate crimes. Obviously Anonymous can't clean up their act by pretending to the media that all the sudden they are non-violent, while behind the scenes acting like terrorists. Anonymous truly creates hate on the Internet.
These anonymous thugs are COWARDS. They hide because they are afraid and weak and can't stand up to the light of day. They are committing federal offenses and they will end up behind bars because of it. We'll see how brave they look in their mug shots.
What does Anonymous have to hide? Why be ananymous if your message holds credit. As long as they are not doing anything "illegal" they have nothing to worry about, so why hide like cowards? Anyone that attacks something or someone always has crimes of their own and this video probably doesn't even scratch the surface or what anonymous has done or is doing.
Time to look at the other side of the coin, to all of the obsessive followers that just "diggg this YES!!!" without ever observing for their own. Pity that no one actually has the courage to find out for themselves and get their own opinion, because everyone knows "it's oh so much easier to just follow the flow", right?
Good, the other side of the story is starting to surface. Anonymous threats shows this is no benign group of funseekers. These guys are threatening dangerous acts.
Wow! I can not believe that this kind of hate against a religion is being perpetuated in the year 2008 in America. What anonymous is doing is wrong on so many levels.
It seems to me that these people at Anonymous have nothing better to do with their time. Let's see how many other ways their energy could benefit humankind instead of harassing a religion that helped Katrina victims, 9/11 victims, etc... just like many other churches.... Hopefully they all find more productive ways to spend their time. The death threats and terrorist threats are what we as Americans are fighting against, they have basically become enemies of the country by attacking a church of any kind. This wouldn't fly with Christians, Muslims, Catholics, any religion that we, as AMERICANS have the right to practice.... If they don't like our Amendments (and not just the parts they chose), why don't they go somewhere else?
What a pack of lies, like always there is now level too low for the cult of scientology to stoop to in order to discredit a critic of their criminal organization. Buried on digg, flagged on youtube.
It seems pretty clear that "Anonymous" are a bunch of terrorists. They are encouraging violence against Scientologists. There is no doubt that at all. They use lots of justifications, excuses and lies for their actions, but the truth is plain to see. They are criminals.
Ah! The light of truth! Notice all of the positive statements (against the cowards, Anonymous) are all receiving "negative" diggs, while those supporting their small-minded misdeeds are receiving "positive" diggs. It seems that Anonymous is "everywhere" finding any reason to justify their cause! "Let us tear-down those who would build-up, and thus, preempt the future!" seems to be their battle cry. I wish I had that kind of free time.
Reminds me of the KKK. It is hard to believe any allegations when people won't show their face. "An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it." James A. Michner
Anonymous is a group of lame cowards. Any group that has nothing better to do than make more than 8000 harassing phone calls clearly needs a hobby. I mean a brain. I mean a life.
One thing you can always say about the Church of Scientology is that they persist and don't give up in the face of this sort of attack. Anonymous should be shunned by the community for these hate crimes. Watch them now try and distance themselves from the death threats, vandalism and violence. I personally know two people who have been physically attacked on the streets for being Scientologists since these attacks started...
I guess soon someone will find out who is funding them and it will all come out in the wash.
These "Anonymous" people are ridiculous. Shooting at Churches? WTF? They have moved from pimple faced cyber nerds bored with their lives and having nothing better to do, to downright hate-crimes and violence! So far they have accomplished nothing but attention, like a train wreck you don't want to turn away from.
Start with another question: Why do terrorists attack and hate the United States?
It starts with a deep seated fear, a terror of anyone or any group that is successful that is helping people live free and is succeeding at it.
Face it. Some people are jealous. Sometimes the reaction to jealousy is to try to tear down the object of the jealousy as a solution. Multiply that jealousy into a general and pronounced world view and that type of personality is driven insane when seeing others do well. It is the worst kind of inferiority.
We’ve all seen the type. The put-down artist, the ridiculer, the mean bully. What’s behind it? TERROR – terror of others. Their solution – attack (attack the hallucinatory source of their terror).
There are really two types. The very worst are the quiet ones, the ones hard to detect working behind the scenes to harm and getting others to do their bidding. There are of course the obvious ones like the Hitlers and the Bin Ladens. Also, unfortunately, there are the larger numbers of those influenced by these types of terrorized minds as we saw in the mass hysteria in Germany in the 30’s and 40’s and today in the suicide bombers and other followers of terrorists.
The cyber-terrorists and others who attack Scientology simply are one of the two types. Since Scientology helps make people stronger and live better lives, this makes the inferior feeling, internally twisted/terrorized personality go wild and thus the attacks with any kind of lie against this group that helps so many get stronger.
Others getting stronger is the worst outcome for this type of personality, so in their twisted minds, it must be stopped, lied about, slandered and libeled. This personality then lies further to try to create mass hysteria through every possible avenue.
Think for yourself. How can Scientology have grown so much and have so many praise it if there wasn't something of value there? Buy one or go to the library and actually read a book by Mr. Hubbard. See for yourself and then, on your own, accept or reject the value or lack of value in this subject.
Thanks for getting the facts out there, they've been long-time coming.
I'd like to point out how few people are leaving bad comments, and those that due are completely ignorant. "what about the content of the clip? who did it?" What does it matter? The facts can be verified, are you looking for another person to target and attack?
Another person says "all propaganda" these are verifiable facts!
Video fabrication skill: grade B
Video content: F
The only violence commited in or around the socalled chuch in the past 10-15 years has been of Scientology members themselves. The biggest criminal of them all, David Miscavige, is a shining example of the most ultra-violent totalitarian idiots this planet has ever seen. Go on, ask what his crimes are.
We should be talking about more important issues like the fact that mirrors aren't actually reflecting anything, they are portals into alternate universes. Or the absolutely verifiable facts that the Earth is actually flat and Hitler never died, he simply retired to Argentina and worked for the CIA. Bormann got a sex change and joined him.
Video Content:A
Marcabminion rationale: F
The only violence committed in the cyberuniverse is the underlings of Anon, a very few that are so embroiled in hate, they can't see what they are actually attacking.
This really is a subject for law enforcement. I hope some of the traces will lead to the instigators of this hate campaign. Criticism is one thing, criminal offense and instigation of hate crimes another one. The 'Anonymous's" are aware of it, that is why they cowardly trying to hide.
I've been getting regular calls too, around midnight (number withheld, of course). In some statements, they say they are not against individual Scientologists or the religion itself (just the organisation), but I personally think that's just PR. Some of the comments written on those banners went a bit further than that! The effect those signs will have had on others reading them. towards Scientology and Scientologists. is obviously not going to be a good one. My take on the whole thing is that maybe one or two of these guys are genuinely disgruntled about something - hey, it happens. (So why don't they grow up and sort it out through the proper channels?) And the rest are basically thugs who know next to nothing about Scientology (and what they do know, the read in The Sun newspaper), and have just come along for the ride, neo-nazi style.
Those protests had no effect, that's why. You are overestimating your clout. It's one thing to rile up people with hate and propaganda. It's another to make threats. Shame on you.
COS is behind this video. I would bet their people were the ones making the threats along with some others that don't understand peaceful protesting as described in the original videos. I do not condone violence and feel this could be fabricated through the so called church. COS has many tricks up their sleeve.
How many of you does OSA have sitting around computer at ORGs typing all these b.s. comments? Or is it one or 2 of you hubbardites sitting at home. Face the smoke screen put up by the cult that has warped your thinking has been blown. Stand by to see less and less people falling for the personality test b.s. and watch as your membership dwindles away. There is nothing that CO$ can do to stop it.
take off your mask, it's inhibiting your ability to think. You are condoning violent acts against a group that is helping people get off drugs and be more literate. Why?
Narconon is useless. The CoS claims it's 70-80% effective, but the actual numbers are more like 6%. Check for yourself. Find the actual surveys of results.
And ask questions like, how can the program have worked for 78.357% of the participants, when there were 53 participants, and 41/53 is 77.3%, and 42/53 is 79.2%?
Applied Scholastics is untestable. It relies on teacher:student ratios down around 1:5, which makes any class's stats skyrocket.
The Church of Scientology's community efforts do nothing but attempt to recruit vulnerable people into the religion.
These Anonymous folks are the same ones who hacked the Fox news website - and put their mission statement there for the world to see. They wrote of themselves:
" We are the face of chaos... We ruin the lives of other people simply because we can ... Hundreds die in a plane crash. We laugh. The nation mourns over school shooting, we laugh. We're the embodiment of humanity with no remorse, no caring, no love, or no sense of morality."
Based on all of the comments here, I see one of two possibilities:
A: The Church has people working overtime trying to flood the comments section with black PR and paint Anonymous as a terrorist organization, which is patently ridiculous to anyone with even a PASSING awareness of the (completely peaceful) protests on the 10th of Feb.
B: People need to exercise a bit of common sense when deciding whether or not to believe things they saw on the internet. I mean, really..."Organization of dubious trustworthiness claims to be persecuted by their critics, and offers slickly-produced video as proof" should raise a few alarm bells for anyone with even a modicum of critical thinking ability.
But a conspiracy theory about a vast criminal organization OTHER THAN THE GOVERNMENT that can blackmail, bribe, extort, torture and kill ON A GLOBAL SCALE for 50 years and never get caught doesn't strain logic, right? And don't bring up the weak GO scandals of the 70s. That ***** is horseplay in comparison to what's being alleged these days.
The hundreds of "insider" stories alleging the worst possible crimes can somehow be covered up, one after another, even though every major government on the planet is just WAITING for some concrete evidence so it can attack.
Oh and death threats, which Anonymous tards have done before, and the LA shooting just COULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE BY ANON MEMBERS. Nooooo. Hahaha.
You people are mentally challenged. I just hope your incredulity and paranoia will come in handy when this nation becomes a police state.
This whole page of comments is hilarious. Scientologists are hilarious. This is a hilariously bad attempt at infiltrating the intarwebs. This story will never make the front page. You actually got someone to put together that piece of ***** film! Haha!
Anonymous didn't make any threats. In fact, when the bomb threat video was posted on YouTube, Anonymous was the first to flag the video and report it to the FBI. Few anons saw the video and the general consensus was that it was an OSA ploy. More on that here:
Scientologists are facing the same hate crimes and prejudice that other religions went through in their early stages. Spirituality does endure and the hate will fade.
Wow. What a pathetic attempt at media manipulation. The world is beginning to see the Church of Scientology for what it really is - a corrupt, manipulative organization. Edmund Burke once said, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Guess what? Good men and women everywhere are starting to act, and their name is Anonymous.