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- soulmantim, on 11/27/2007, -38/+172I took this poll, they tested all Republicans vs. Hillary EXCEPT for Ron Paul.
This is ridiculous, I made it a point to email Zogby but they yet have to contact me. - drachemorder, on 11/27/2007, -18/+132This is great news. I never thought Hillary was a strong candidate --- there was a poll not long ago that indicated that somewhere around 40% of likely voters wouldn't vote for her under any circumstances. This poll is pretty consistent with that.
She's not a strong candidate, but she is scary --- and even a weak candidate can beat another weak candidate. Kerry was a horrible candidate, but he almost took out Bush anyway. - maz2331, on 11/27/2007, -16/+117The GOP could run Pee Wee Herman against Hillary and get close to 50%.
- sjl127, on 11/27/2007, -11/+92It's all down hill for her now.
- ZenFountain, on 11/27/2007, -9/+75If the Dems nominate Hillary they deserve to lose. Does anyone remember Jerry Brown, Bill Bradly or Howard Dean? It's painful to watch Edwards and Obama head down that same dead end as primary voters gear up to vote celebrity over progressive once again.
- soulmantim, on 11/27/2007, -15/+70Polling low in the primaries huh? What are you a time traveler? You went a few months ahead in the future to find out how Ron Paul's polling in the primaries?
How hard would it be for Zogby to add 1 more question to that poll? They blatantly didn't include him there. You're basically justifying his non-inclusion on this poll because of his non-inclusion on previous polls.
I took this poll, the didn't even poll Ron Paul's name vs. Hillary!
If they did Ron Paul would have been a landslide, think I'm wrong? Now you can't prove it!
Pro, Anti, and Indifferent Ron Paul supporters should ALL be pissed. - Frei, on 11/27/2007, -12/+55Well he got caught jerking off in a movie theater, he sounds like run of the mill GOP material.
- samdu, on 11/27/2007, -2/+32It's not that she's a woman. It's that she's an unprincipled, dishonest, conniving bitch.
- libertao, on 11/27/2007, -5/+31The bigger story here is that Obama beat all of the Republican candidates by >5%
- ingenium21, on 11/27/2007, -6/+31I find it sad that so many people would vote for Giuliani, very sad. Giuliani is a disgraceful candidate. Dishonest, untrustworthy, and is already in the pocket so many lobbyists it is very disconcerting. To vote for him because of this false, idiotic notion of "America's mayor" and 9/11 9/11 9/11 is stupid. All he will do is continue to divide this country, add more of OUR TAXES into homeland security, and continue to isolate the people of Arab descent.
If hillary went against someone sensible like John McCain, or Ron Paul, I would vote for them, but these findings of the fact that she comes out losing against Mitt Romney, and Giuliani are very very scary.
Although If Obama or Edwards get the nomination and win, I will be very relieved. - withears, on 11/27/2007, -13/+36A few things should really be pointed out.
1. Zogby is the most right-leaning of all the pollsters.
2. The most recent Gallup poll showed just the opposite - Hillary wins against ANY republican.
3. In this Zogby poll, no republican gets more than 50% against Hillary - a key statistic and the resulting margin of error is so large as to make interpretation meaningless.
I appreciate that the republicans and Zogby have a vested interest in this, but this "poll" isn't very useful. - thredden, on 11/27/2007, -8/+31don't poll me bro!
- ZenMojo, on 11/27/2007, -5/+27Actually, the US is making plans to create permanent bases in Iraq and the US's allies are ABANDONING her to Bush's folly. We've conveniently changed the way we count deaths, and even so the number of deaths is only down to 2004 levels, not the lowest levels ever. Add to this the fact that we've created ethnically cleansed states throughout Iraq where once people used to live in harmony and you've got a failure, not a success.
- scronline, on 11/27/2007, -6/+27All I can say is thank, friggin god! I don't have a problem with a woman as president, but THAT woman.... eeeeeesh. She reminds me too much of Cheney.
- pgoetz, on 11/27/2007, -13/+31Zogby is to polls as Fox is to news: namely, a joke.
- crazyspaceman, on 11/27/2007, -6/+23I call shenanigans no one can lose to Fred Thompson.
- rarson, on 11/27/2007, -4/+20What's so bad about Paul and Kucinich? At least they tell the truth and are honest about the countries' problems, and actually want to do something to fix them.
I've never seen that in a politician before (at least not a politician running for one of the two parties). - swordedge, on 11/27/2007, -11/+27when I did the http://connect2elect.com/ web site Hillary came out as the one candidate farthest from what I believe. That confirms my first thoughts on her running. She will NOT be the first female president. I'd vote for Rice or Dole before her.
- sovereign3, on 11/27/2007, -3/+18He'd have my vote!
- ThaddeusB, on 11/27/2007, -16/+31Huckabee won by the largest margin - not bad for a guy with "no chance to beat Hillary"
- petebot, on 11/27/2007, -4/+18Correction: Paul Reubens was caught spanking it in a movie theater. Pee Wee was never caught doing anything other than being hilarious.
- suggsjc, on 11/27/2007, -5/+19I think this is pretty consistent with the "anybody but Hillary" mantra (which I FULLY support). Besides, do we really want another Clinton (or Bush) president?
- rarson, on 11/27/2007, -3/+17***** you for not having a clue. Do you even know what "true Republicans" stand for? I'll give you a hint: pretty damn much everything that Paul stands for. And Paul has the voting record to back what he says.
Libertarianism overlaps Republicanism. Morons like you need to get that through your thick heads. They are not mutually exclusive. Any true conservative such as myself recognizes that Paul is more of a traditional Republican than anyone else the party has seen in decades. - G001, on 11/27/2007, -3/+17I'm no Hillary fan, but I don't put much stock in this. It's a Zogby Interactive poll: "The Zogby poll was conducted online among..." Their online polling has always been of dubious value. I don't give it the same weight as phone polling.
This site gives you the most recent head-to-head polling of the major candidates. Check it anytime there's a story on some amazing poll to see if it's an outlier. It looks like this one is.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/presi ... - dmadzak, on 11/27/2007, -8/+21There is the old saying why vote for most republicans (democrat want-to-be) when you can get the real thing. Why vote for Hillary (republican want-to-be) when you can get the real thing. Add the fact that many people (even Democrats) just will not vote for her, even if you put her up against Hitler and I'm not surprised.
- colto, on 11/27/2007, -6/+19Please don't jinx us.
- jmpeagle, on 11/27/2007, -13/+24god damn you are an idiot
Paul and Kucinich are ideologically polar opposites on every economic issue ever - smoothmedia, on 11/27/2007, -5/+16Actually the bigger story here is that Zogby polls are becomming increasingly unreliable. Most poll experts I've seen find these results highly suspect. Every other poll shows Clinton with significant 8-10 point leads over all republicans. This is the first poll to show her losing.
"The Zogby poll was conducted 11/21-26/07 with 9150 respondents who had agreed to take part in Zogby's online polling. This is not a normal random sample of the population. More on the technical issues below."
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/zogby_internet_poll_ ... - br0ck, on 11/27/2007, -0/+10Especially since according to the actual poll results, Edwards and Obama would both beat or tie any of the republicans. http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1393
- baldr, on 11/27/2007, -3/+13I am a die-hard democrat, and I would rather have Ron Paul than Hillary Clinton. Clinton is just another secretive, self-concerned, power-blinded, and power-hungry politician. If she is elected I will lose faith in this country and move to Canada.
- chesscat, on 11/27/2007, -2/+12Gosh, the election is still 11 months away and it's been declared over for Hillary. This is such nonsense.
- KiwiHopeful, on 11/27/2007, -17/+26Before anyone breaks out the fine Champale, keep in mind that Zogby's polls are notorious for bias and manipulation. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this one (at least until I get a chance to look at the methodology) but I'm taking it with a large grain of salt until I see some corroborating polls. BTW, here's an excellent example of Zogby's anti-Ron Paul bias: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/20/122957/56
- Acewrap, on 11/27/2007, -0/+9Maybe the issue isn't "a woman with a brain", maybe it's that I looked at her policy positions and I just don't like them.
- neodorian, on 11/27/2007, -0/+9While your conclusion is true, your deliberate equation of progressive and socialist only fools the kneejerk idiots. We have been moving in a more fascist direction for a while so a move to the left will not end in socialism for a while. It's important to keep the happy medium between the private and public sectors' influences.
- Fafnir43, on 11/27/2007, -0/+9I ask purely out of interest: for comparison, how often do Republican presidential candidates receive more than 50% of the popular vote?
- kaelyiesta, on 11/27/2007, -6/+15I'm not sure if I'm happy or not about that. Huck vs Hill would be a lose lose. One is a true politician(read: corrupt power monger), the other is a fanatic. Both their policies and records scare me.
- neodorian, on 11/27/2007, -4/+12Thank god. If I have to vote for a "mainstream" candidate in the general election, he is a guy I can support.
- delmar14, on 11/27/2007, -5/+13Nobody wants to vote for a shrill bitch. Hilarry Cannot win!
- swordedge, on 11/27/2007, -1/+9the only reason anyone lived in harmony in Iraq before the war was mutual hatred of Saddam.
- rarson, on 11/27/2007, -3/+10So why did I get dugg down? Last I checked, Paul was doing better than Huckabee. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I don't have a TV to watch "news" channels telling me who to vote for.
- dunderballer, on 11/27/2007, -1/+8Zogby is not right leaning. In fact, John Zogby describes himself as a liberal and is a contributing writer to the liberal Huffington Post. That said, his company's polling data isn't always right. Last election, he incorrectly predicted Kerry would win the vote; in 2000, he incorrectly predicted that that Bush would win the vote.
- roaddc, on 11/27/2007, -0/+7
This just shows how easy it is to fool Digg users.
This is an online poll which has no scientific basis but it makes the front page of Digg.
To make it to the Front page, you need stories like the following and they don't have to be based on facts:
Microsoft sucks.
Hillary will lose.
Ron Paul is surging.
Obama is awesome!
Let's bend over for Apple and Steve Jobs. - cjrando, on 11/27/2007, -8/+15Another poll where they specifically leave out Ron Paul.
- Acewrap, on 11/27/2007, -2/+9Must be one of those "ONLY ON FOX!!!" news flashes.
- sgglynn, on 11/27/2007, -5/+12Interesting, may I ask which topics on the table are most important to you? It seems many republicans have very different views from each other, as well as many of the democrats, surely with a broad spectrum of views some reps should at least beat some democrats. Or, are you just voting democrat for the sake of voting democrat? Do you assume it's all about parties? Because that is how the Dems took control over the house and senate, and they've done NOTHING to stop bush. That clearly isn't the way to save this country
- jazh, on 11/27/2007, -18/+24This is total rubbish:
Hillary has a comanding lead against Guliani is almost all recent polls:
http://pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm
Yet again, I thought diggers were intelligent people, obviously not given that they think one poll is more accurate than about 20 in the past month by various methods. - mkriss5681, on 11/27/2007, -7/+13As a lifelong democrat I seriously doubt Hilliary will win the primary. We know what is at stake in this election and Hillary is to moderate and at times almost conservative to get Democratic votes. Even if she was elected as the candidate I doubt she would be able to court enough independent, republican and southern voters to win.
- reed311, on 11/27/2007, -7/+13Of course they can say that, as they know neither one of them has a chance in hell at the nomination.
- CrackyJSquirrel, on 11/27/2007, -2/+8Maybe because I am not from the south, but I don't think people have an issue with "a woman with a brain", welcome to 2007.. There is far more disingenuous things about her and corporate money backing that people are afraid of. She is a fake person and a flip flopping candidate. I think people see through her and her act is too weak to fool the masses.
I believe America is ready and has been ready for a female president. Just not Hillery. - Fafnir43, on 11/27/2007, -2/+8Yup. I disagree vehemently with Paul on probably around 50-60% of the issues (I'm libertarian, but not so libertarian I want to shut down income tax and go back to the gold standard), but I'd still rather have him in office than Hillary because he is at least an honest man. Kucinich winning would be awesome, Paul winning would be quite nice, one running against the other would be win-win!
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