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- NYC83, on 11/15/2007, -2/+90why? becuase they don't give a ***** and they know that the dems won't call them on it.
- Rodehodeh, on 11/15/2007, -1/+44Wow Bush is getting more and more like Nixon, the only thing is Bush's crimes are much worse but hell never end up being forced to resign.
- IrishJoe, on 11/15/2007, -0/+38Of course the Dems weren't a majority in Congress during the years that they were deleted and didn't become the majority until the current congressional session started in January of this year. But, yes, they need to start charging members of the Bush Administration who won't comply with subpoenas with inherent contempt of Congress and lock them up one by one until they get the evidence that has been requested.
- the6thReplicant, on 11/14/2007, -1/+34Getting more like Nixon? The Bush Administration has surpassed Nixon's dirty tricks even before the Iraqi war.
- wrttnwrd, on 11/14/2007, -2/+30Because they can't figure out where the 'any' key is.
- AriaStar, on 11/15/2007, -1/+28They're hoping we'll all forget about it.
- zobs, on 11/15/2007, -1/+261) they are lying,
2) they do not care
3) they are not that educated to build after damaging
4) they are committing new crimes all the time. - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -0/+22With all the skilled "hackers" around the world, I'm surprised not one of them can get into their systems and get the emails themselves for all to read.
That person would be a ***** hero. - spyd3rweb, on 11/15/2007, -0/+21a clear violation of presidential records-preservation statutes..
Then why is no one being punished? - crackedlogic, on 11/14/2007, -2/+22you're an idiot.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/14/2007, -0/+16He's got the Nixon wiretapping down pretty good. He can't pull a lie under oath Clinton, because he refuses to testify under oath about anything, anything else?
- Waiting2awake, on 11/14/2007, -2/+18Want to bet that they are right?
- bsmang, on 11/14/2007, -0/+16Because they love being in power and they hate jail cells?
- Indrid, on 11/14/2007, -0/+15Well think about it... Deleted emails mean someone didn't want those emails to be viewed anymore. Computers don't just lose data, especially not government computers. So obviously someone doesn't want the emails to be recovered. Very simple and even follows Occam's Razor - The simplest answer tends to be the correct one.
- spawnfree, on 11/15/2007, -0/+15o noes the hard disks have been accidentally passed through a 7 stage wipe that took all day.
how did that happen? - saisumimen, on 11/14/2007, -1/+14I also don't remember Al Gore's two illegal invasions, or his illegal spy program, or his illegal torture program, or his illegal "black op" prison sites in eastern Europe...
- notfaded1, on 11/14/2007, -1/+11Don't know about you but I'm am so sick of hearing about this kind of stuff it almost makes me ill. How can this kind of thing be good for anybody?
- nikkesen, on 11/14/2007, -1/+11It would help if the GoP grew a backbone and worked with the Dems to bring integrity back to Washington instead of sitting pretty. Is it any wonder why it looks like the Dems might take the '08 presidential election? The GoP could just as easily if they showed backbone when it comes to dealing with the lame duck.
- psyjoniz, on 11/14/2007, -1/+11laughmore said it - if they can't spin it they delay it
i for one do not believe for a moment that they were deleted. does anyone have any clue what kind of data retention the u.s. government has to have implemented? those emails are not gone. this is a bid for time. and because the soulless bastards in office now had their predecessors rewrite the rules in the favor of the powerful, it is working beautifully (not that it is legal, just they are able to get away with it with gray areas). and on top of it the average u.s. citizen is too enamored with their trinkets that they simply do not care enough to get organized enough to put real pressure on and have these criminals brought to justice. bush and 20 levels deep should all be impeached/fired/imprisoned. the u.s. government needs to be gutted and realigned. they are singlehandedly bankrupting the nation and sparking ww3. if we don't pull our troops and revert these asinine laws soon, i'm outta this bitch. - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10Bush "The dog ate my emails, eh it worked fer me in school"
- gak001, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9He would also be in Guantánamo faster than you can say "Unlawful combatant."
- ClosedCaption, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9What you have to believe to be a Conservative:
Clinton Library Donations secret = Evil
Bush admin e-mails that are legally required to be disclosed kept secret = Yeee Haw! Freedoms on the March! - moxley, on 11/14/2007, -4/+12It is obvious that the official story is a lie and that all sorts of people had various angles and knowledge. The thing is that the disinformation and counterintelligence is doing a good job of putting out wacky theories and other such things which discredit questioning the official story.
Part of the problem is that people do not want to believe that it could be the case. It's and awful thing and leads to more very uncomfortable questions which a lot of people just cannot deal with. A lot of people have been conditioned all of their lives to believe that government is looking out for them; that it has their best interest at heart.
The project Northwood papers from Kennedy's administration show that these sort of operations are undertaken from time to time. There are so many reason why the people involved with this genuinely think that they are doing the right or inevitable thing.
People need to research this on their own - anyone who does so honestly and reviews numerous sources and can think critically is going to come to only one conclusion - the official story is a lie, and there has been a coverup of what really happened...
I don;t know if we'll ever get an honest investigation covered by the media; it's been 6 years...I do think that the truth about what happened (whatever it really is) coming out and being dealt with would be the best thing that could happen for this country - we need to get back to the rule of law and respect for the constitution. - yunus, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7It takes a long time to sort through deleted emails to determine which ones can "be undeleted"(they want undeleted). Especially when Dick labels everything as sudo Top Secret. Someone needs to explain to him that when you secure everything, you reduce the security on the stuff that really is sensitive.
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -2/+9But that's exactly what you did. You started talking about Al Gore when he's not even the subject of the thread.
Why are hardcore right wingers all so ***** stupid? Seriously. - GRTWHT, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Nice concept - won't happen.
As NYC83 stated above, "they know that the dems won't call them on it" - this is because nobody in the US government wants to be held accountable, so the unspoken agreement is, 'I won't help them get you, you don't help them get me.'
'We're the good guys, they're the bad guys! You're sick of the way things are going, so elect us and we'll fix it!' - both democrats and republicans make these claims and both are lying. - Nossie, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7course they will. No offense to you yankies but fewer people care about politics these days... As long as people can buy their lead infested goods from wallmart and nobody shouts loud enough to hear then people will continue eating up the *****.
Supress the sheep, who are/were the majority of voters and those with their own agendas can move in and stake victory in an election. If your old enough to vote and you dont, you have no right to complain in a political discussion. The same is happening here in the UK and the rest of the 'western' world... people have lost faith in their leaders and treat them more as managers than visionaries.
In the UK its child and wellfare support... it keeps the gullable, gullable and the working class scraping to stay above the water line. - the6thReplicant, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8Actually we don't, so give me a link, please.
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6I've had some experience with data recovery. I'll share the worst case I've ever seen regarding email:
At a private university in the northeast, some nubbin mistakenly trashed a glob of mail spools totalling about 320 gigabytes, or the emails and attachments of every student and faculty member going back years. The plex of the data failed, so there was no immediate recovery available. We did back up the email array to tape regularly however...but the most recent week's backup was unrecoverable due to a flood in the little room where we (like idiots) kept all the tapes in boxes on the floor.
So we had to resort to the vaulted media, held in a bunker-type building about 20 miles away. We had it shipped back to the university and started the restoration process, which with DLTs is not exactly a very fast thing--but it still took under 24 hours.
From start to finish, the recovery of probably just about as much email as the whitehouse claims to have lost took about 30 hours.
This whitehouse is clearly up to no good, at least. At most, multiple felonies including obstruction of justice and destruction of government property. - mexretroshore, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH BREAKING THE LAW.
- insonh, on 11/14/2007, -1/+7Because they are with the Rose Law Firm papers
That’s why! - onwardknave, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6If you have evidence (more than someone's blog link, please), out with it. If not, get the hell off my internet.
- uptown, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6Ironic that they keep tabs on everybody's emails but their own.
I'd love to see the exclusion-list on the filters hooked up to AT&T's "secret" room. - wakeup82, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6All this guilty behavior and they still haven't been impeached. The U.S. should be really proud of its politicians.
- objectcode, on 11/14/2007, -2/+8thats when you know its *****
- outofbeta, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6what would opening the task manager do?
- Waiting2awake, on 11/14/2007, -1/+6Because the system requires those that benefit from the current system, must stand up to stop what is in their best interest. Clearly, they will not do that(who really would?).
- Murdats, on 11/14/2007, -1/+6it takes time to make up fake emails, apparently more time to then just using some data retreival tools.
- Amazetbm, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5It's not surprising, Cheney and Rumsfeld were part of the Nixon administration too.
- dafragsta, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5No they wouldn't. They haven't called them on the budget, impeachment, or anything else. Why would this be any different?
- Murdats, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5allow you to kill unwanted processes that are destroying the system.
- Nossie, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4At the same time the elite eat up the spols of war inside and outside the country with political taxbreaks etc and within 50 - 100 year at the current rate we'll become Russia and THEN once people start going missing we *might* revolt against our new suppressors... 200 years from now they'll call our era 'corporate serfism(sp??),' and parallel how democracy turned into fascism in the same way socialism turned into communism.
Course, I'm not going to say its ALL doom and gloom.... but I will suggest people start voting for what they really believe in or your kids might just lose that right to vote. - Delphium226, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4It takes a while to edit all the incriminating bits out.
- snowdogg187, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5This administration is absolutely the most crooked we have ever seen. You wonder why these emails were "deleted". I really don't think it's possible to explain how much this ***** pisses me right off.
This information will be delayed as the Bush admin will figure out ways to delay this. Down the road more and more of this info will come out and we will be even more up in arms as to what these criminals pulled on us. - edrift101, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4True enough.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3The Bush Administration fears nothing. If personal ethics doesn't stop our public servants from being corrupt, and fear of retribution (being executed by We the People) does not stop our public servants from being corrupt, then nothing will.
Our Politicians and corporate CEO's feel that they are untouchable. The silence is deafening. - uptown, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3So, aside from reciting stuff on the internet, what are you doing about it? I'm not trying to be a jerk about it ... just wondering.
- RabidAngel, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3So if everyone is really so tired of it, why don't we begin to organize and actually DO something about it? Demand - and I mean really DEMAND, in a way that cannot be ignored - that Bush and Cheney be held accountable. This used to be our country, rather than theirs. There used to be accountability, rather than manipulation of the law by the people who are continually breaking those laws. I am not talking about just a romantic ideal, but rather sacrifice to do something that truly matters; something that we could feel proud of accomplishing for a change. We can utilize the very mechanisms that were put in place to protect this country from falling into the hands of the greedy and supremely corrupt. We can force a change.
Spare me the "we're fat and lazy" or "post angrily on a blog" comments. Are you truly apathetic or do you actually care about the fact that your country is being flushed down the toilet? Do you care that the people in Washington are blatant criminals? Or that your rights have been continuously eroded? People keep asking when enough is enough. I say that we passed that mark a long time ago and I, for one, am truly willing to do something about it. - mlostracco, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3Intentionally deleting email from backups = something to hide.
Newsflash, I know, but ITMFA. -
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