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- seiha, on 02/29/2008, -14/+52Ron Paul........................
is never on the front page anymore. YAY! - Hobbes24, on 02/29/2008, -6/+43"It's not a very long run," Clinton predicted in late December. "It'll be over by February 5."
i think her arrogance is the reason i'll be so happy when she looses. - inactive, on 02/29/2008, -5/+38Voting for the war was the kiss of death for Hillary Clinton and it didn't help that she pushed the pro-War propaganda that neo-cons were flinging around at the time. She said she regretted being one of the enablers the other night, but it may have come too late in the contest.
As for the article, money matters.. and yeah she is probably done unless she can pull off a miracle and win Ohio & Texas and disrupt the electoral process enough to get her the nomination. It ain't over 'til it's over though, before we start celebrating, keep in mind the Clinton fam. is gifted in the art of politicking. - valimar77, on 02/29/2008, -0/+21 By reading this article I've learned more about the politics of the democratic party than any other in recent days. Fascinating and informative, well done.
- Ohimesama, on 02/29/2008, -1/+22We need another million. The race is not going to be won by throwing money at it. But... we need another million. Fast. kthx bai.
- hunterfilm, on 02/29/2008, -5/+25I agree on that the war vote is crucial to Hillary's problems. However, being anti-war is not enough and you are right when we look back Senator Obama's stands on the war clearly lead the juggernaut. His campaign's organizational success has been the key to capitalizing on his record.
The great thing is that the democratic party is no longer reluctant to compete in non-blue states. We are the party of ideas and we are no longer afraid to take those ideas on the road and persuade our fellow citizens.
Lastly, I agree, no champagne till this fall. It's not over till its over.
Donate. Phonebank. Vote. Repeat till November!!!!!! - Joshuarr, on 02/29/2008, -1/+17Obama doesn't look very tattered. Nice try though.
- aintIill, on 02/29/2008, -4/+20ron paul dropped out of the race for your sins. im sure he still loves you though.
- jopjop, on 02/29/2008, -2/+18Being the front-runner can be a dangerous position. The nomination is Obama's to lose at the moment and his campaign should watch out for complacency among his supporters due to an assumption he will get it without their direct effort.
- lanemik, on 02/29/2008, -1/+15I'm kind of looking forward to the Clinton concession speech and endorsement of Obama.
- rogerbly, on 02/29/2008, -1/+12Bill Clinton's weekly email to Hillary supporters:
Dear Roger,
This is a hard-fought campaign. You and I both know it. And now the Obama campaign has upped the stakes again.
In just 24 hours, you closed the $1.3 million advertising gap with Obama this week. In response, their campaign has bought another $1.9 million worth of airtime.
For Hillary to win on March 4, we must close this gap -- and we have to do it quickly. We cannot let this race be decided by Obama's spending advantage on the air.
Help Hillary make up the $1.9 million spending gap in 24 hours with your contribution today.
The ads we put on the air matter. The number of phone calls we make matters. The rides we give to the polls matter. And most important of all, what you do right now matters.
We have the best candidate with the best ideas -- and she's a fighter. She's knows that you are standing with her every step of the way.
So let's show the Obama campaign that they can't win this race just by throwing more money at it.
Let's match that $1.9 million ad buy of his and make sure this is a race of ideas, because that's a race that we know Hillary will win.
Contribute now to help us raise $1.9 million in 24 hours.
You've shown Hillary that you are there for her when she needs you, and it means so much to the both of us. Thank you for all you do.
Sincerely,
Bill Clinton - aliengoods, on 02/29/2008, -1/+12It makes sense. He's equating embassy troops and special forces to fight terrorists to a full scale deployment. By his logic we have occupation forces in Germany, Japan, South Korea, and dozens of other countries in the world. I buried him for blatantly distorting the facts.
- aintIill, on 02/29/2008, -4/+14maybe there's a spot for her on the apprentice after all this?
- aintIill, on 02/29/2008, -3/+13the special olympics. you're familiar yes?
- 0xception, on 02/29/2008, -0/+9I'll see your bet and raise you 20
- novenator, on 02/29/2008, -2/+11Best political article on the nuts and bolts of the Democratic Party EVER
- saska, on 02/29/2008, -0/+9She also needs to figure out how to keep the burning fuse out of her powder.
- aliengoods, on 02/29/2008, -0/+8Much less another Bush, which McCain has become. I don't care if he's a maverick or not, he voted against a bill banning torture. And he's taken the Bush party line on the war and taxes (cut taxes for the rich to improve the economy).
For those of you who think repealing the tax cuts of Bush is a bad idea, ask yourselves this. Did you see any extra money because of it? I know it didn't give me the slightest break at all. - aliengoods, on 02/29/2008, -0/+8Actually, the more they attack Obama the better he looks by comparison. And the Republicans plays on racism and bigotry are going to cost them in the end. They may keep the deep south with that strategy, but there are quite a few states where its going to backfire.
- saska, on 02/29/2008, -0/+8I see what you did there.
16. People go around posting the same list in twenty different articles. - Naidel, on 02/29/2008, -0/+7Well, at least the type of people who think living your life according to their limited and literal interpretation of the Bible, and the people who think invading a country on false grounds is the American Way are not on your list.
- jmpeagle, on 02/29/2008, -5/+12looses what?
- gypsi, on 02/29/2008, -2/+9her husband?
- ronjohn, on 02/29/2008, -0/+7May not go away but damn sure downsized and I don't think as much money will be pumped into it either. ***** WE STILL IN DAMN KOSOVO DUDE!!
- whalt, on 02/29/2008, -0/+7Ugh. The same old laundry list of stale stereotypes with no alternate vision for how to make anything better.
"But the Democrats are WORSE!!!" = the death rattle of the conservative movement - inactive, on 02/29/2008, -6/+12At what point can Hillary just bow out gracefully? Can't her super robot sensors tell the math isn't adding up? It would be a miracle for her to win now, but then again, the sox did win a series.
- topace3000, on 02/29/2008, -1/+7-McCain does have a chance.
-Ever heard of charisma?
-You're saying republicans want Obama purely because he's black. Seriously now. - cdigioia, on 02/29/2008, -2/+8I'm going to get dugg down for not adding anything to this conversation...
but that was the funniest thing I've read all day - rawg, on 02/29/2008, -1/+7Great article. Howard Dean and Obama see the DNC as way to educate and energize the voter base. The Clintons see the DNC as a political machine for generating campaign funding. Got it.
- Joshuarr, on 02/29/2008, -2/+7The flying monkeys. Duh.
- BigW, on 02/29/2008, -0/+5I actually think that will not be a good thing. I think Obama has a chance to be a great president, but I think that in order to do that he will need to be moderated by republicans in the congress. If he has a large enough democrat majority they are going to rubber stamp an inonrdinate amount of new spending that will end up mandated year after year, in addition to enacting a tax increase that is much too large.
The key to being a good president for Obama will come from having to work with (and being able to work with) republicans in congress to come up with middle of the road solutions that will work. - DKSprocket, on 02/29/2008, -5/+10Hillary Clinton.. Is there anything that she can not screw up?
- aliengoods, on 02/29/2008, -1/+6Going after the actual enemy......it's so crazy it just may work!
Also, Afghanistan is an actual coalition. We have a majority of troops there, but there is an international interest in that country. - Gerz1219, on 02/29/2008, -0/+4Obama opposes a second round of primaries? Source?
There hasn't been a second primary in those states because it would cost millions of dollars, and the state parties would have to fund new elections themselves. I'm not so sure Obama would lose Florida and Michigan if a new election were held tomorrow. In Florida, Obama would benefit from Edwards being out of the race, as Obama seems to have absorbed Edwards' support among white men. And in Michigan -- well, usually when there's only one name on the ballot in an election, that one candidate gets more than 55% of the vote. Just ask Castro. The Michigan results tell me that 40% of the state hates Hillary so much, that they'd vote purely against her, for nobody in particular, in an election that doesn't count. - whalt, on 02/29/2008, -0/+4Well elections actually are popularity contests and winning them is how you get to govern. This ridiculous notion that somehow Hillary must be the nominee, because... well because she just must that's all, is insulting to the very idea of democracy. But then again Hillary knows quite a bit about insulting the voters, not just the ones who voted for Obama but even her own supporters that happen to come from states that she deems insignificant (i.e. that she lost.)
And if Hillary is so deadly serious and prepared from "day one" then why has she run such a disastrous campaign. I think the Obama campaign's contrasting competence has helped many realize that we may have dodged a real bullet with Hillary. - saska, on 02/29/2008, -0/+4This argument is a fallacy. If recognition and airtime are all that matter, then why isn't someone with 35 years of name recognizability winning?
Not that it comes down to anything much more substantial in the end -- it comes down to enthusiasm. And you can't buy that. - inactive, on 02/29/2008, -0/+4Her vote shows that she only supports what's popular... like any politician.
Except this time it blew up in her face. - inactive, on 02/29/2008, -2/+6Problem is, Obama isn't black. He is half black. His mother is white. Why don't you call him white?
- br0ck, on 02/29/2008, -0/+4Clinton won only 55% of the vote in Michigan and was basically uncontested. If they seat the Michigan delegates, then the 45% of uncommitted and Kucinich delegates would likely all vote for Obama. In Florida, only Clinton campaigned and she still only managed 50% of the vote. So she would likely get 86 Michigan delegates and 105 Florida delagates, while Obama would likely get 70 Michigan delegates and 105 Florida delegates. So it would be 191 to Clinton and 175 to Obama.. a difference of only 16 delegates!
Since Obama didn't even advertise, campaign or put his name on the ballot and still managed to hold level, it's pretty clear that if either state runs a caucus, then Obama would easily win.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results ...
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results ... - TypeEE, on 02/29/2008, -0/+3After Huckabee would drop out? When their delegate are further apart? It's still damn close right now.
- imgstacke, on 02/29/2008, -2/+52008 Election = Landslide Obama (Republicans Get Crushed in the House in 2012)
- cranium, on 02/29/2008, -0/+3Obama would *cream* Hillary in a redo.
- saska, on 02/29/2008, -0/+3This is a point that I used to be more worried about until I realized that the kind of fishtank feeding frenzy that happens on the Internet is not usually repeating itself in the Real World where most voters reside.
Well, except for that one Hillary supporter dude who stabbed his Obama supporter dude brother in law. - imgstacke, on 02/29/2008, -1/+4My Guess - March 4th...
- spinchange, on 02/29/2008, -0/+3Aren't there shades of gray or details to manage in wrapping up a war? I'm no military expert, but I suspect that we can't *literally* pull up every last US tent-stake get the hell out of there completely over night. As much as I would like for us to do that, the withdrawal process will take some time (16 months with a few units remaining a little longer) as we transition to them taking care of their own country and security again
Successfully extricating ourselves from a war we started and coutnry & region that's still in a bit of shambles isn't like turning off a light switch -and that sure as hell doesn't mean to imply that staying for "another 100 years" either.
Im confident Obama will be prudent and manage the redeployment sensibly and as fast as we reasonably can.
He is not by any stretch, "more of the same" - inactive, on 02/29/2008, -1/+4Typed in "Obama dancing". Surprisingly it wasn't the first video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4
- whalt, on 02/29/2008, -0/+3So if we could only get the Supreme Court to install Hillary as our nominee all our problems would be solved?
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