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- NinjAlt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+101Wait, the whitehouse doesnt want people to know what goes on in their personal lives? Oh. I wonder how all those people who were ILLEGALLY WIRE TAPPED feel. ***** you whitehouse.
- neoform, on 10/12/2007, -3/+89Don't you guys get it?!
If everyone knows who visits him, THE TERRORISTS WILL HAVE WON! - xrisnothing, on 10/12/2007, -3/+83Why do they get privacy, but we don't????
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -6/+75He got something to hide hmmmmmmmm
- zediker, on 10/12/2007, -4/+72Oh, im sorry, I only thought the vice president was elected by and works for the people of the United States... my bad..
/sarcasm - jmgibson, on 10/12/2007, -11/+78Thats ashame. The President thinks we are invading the privacy of the white house, yet he so arrogantly invades ours at every opportunity. ***** him, ***** the presidency, ***** the white house. If anyone needs to be assassinated it is this ***** and his whole cabinet.
- Dracos, on 10/12/2007, -4/+53How is a list of the VP's visitors more of an unprecedented intrusion than warrantless wiretapping?
- hambend, on 10/12/2007, -8/+56@p0s3r
Making fun of homophobes doesn't count as homophobia. - cherrick, on 10/12/2007, -9/+51@p0s3r
Gay bashing usually entails bashing gays. So, unless you're saying that calling Dick Cheney homosexual is an insult to homosexuals, you're a little off the mark. - gronne, on 10/12/2007, -13/+43Jeff Gannon? I mean hey, we already know homosexuality runs in the family.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33***** Dick Cheney, ***** him for trying to make a personal profit with a war. What's wrong, Dick? $400,000 not good enough for your stereotypical republican ass? And ***** the current administration for ruining the American amendments, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, just plain ***** freedom of the damn press (which falls under speech), if Thomas Jefferson were alive today, he'd throw up and commit suicide!
- jsg7, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28"These aren't the droids your looking for..."
- shaun3000, on 10/12/2007, -6/+31You're right, to be sure let's keep everything our government does, outside of general domestic issues, a secret. That way we're certain no sensitive information is leaked. Leaving the government completely unchecked is the way to go. I'm sure nothing bad would happen.
- Jagula, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23"Is there anything that you are trying to keep secret that if leaked could cause the death of thousands either in the country or overseas?"
You see, mcatrage, the funny thing about terrorism is that it is nearly nonexistent. Of the roughly 5000 American casualties from terrorism in the past 35 years (compare that to the nearly half million deaths in America due to smoking per year), over half have been from 9/11. Which the 'crusaders of freedom' knew about but completely ignored.
There is no threat. And to rape citizens of their constitutional rights in the name of such a threat is complete ***** *****. - raz3000, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Looks like he's got more to hide than just the Energy Task Force. Since he already won that battle, why not go all the way?
- UberNick, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23@dtreese
"...The man made it pretty clear in the vice presidential debates..."
Oh yeah, really clear. Cheney sure is willing to put himself out there:
(In response to Edwards defending gay rights)
CHENEY: Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter.
I appreciate that very much.
IFILL: That's it?
CHENEY: That's it.
IFILL: OK, then we'll move on to the next question.
From transcript at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_1005.html - LeFrenzy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Man, we already know Henry Kissinger came to visit him on an almost weekly basis.
Hide the ***** as much as you want, Mr. VP, but we've all read Bob Woodward's "State of Denial" book.
Attention digg kids: Wikipedia is your friend. Don't bombard the digg adults with unnecessary questions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
ps. No need for him to hide the Saudi "diplomatic" meeting, everybody knows that too. - InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -8/+26Bush has some balls complaining about "intrusions" given his complete lack of respect for the right of privacy of private citizens. Dumbya doesn't seem to understand, or chooses to ignore the fact, that he works in a public office as a public servant.
I can't wait for the impeachment hearings to start. This retarded chimp needs to learn the hard way that he is not an emperor and that the office of president is a privilege, not a divine right or entitlement. - etjrowe, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25It's not so much Big Dick who needs the privacy...
...but Satan likes to keep their visits on the DL. - earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19"unprecedented intrusion into the daily operations of the vice presidency,"
thats a sad thought since transparency in the government is one of the cornerstones of success for a Democracy. Without it the government isn't really by the people and for the people and coruption will be given the right conditions to grow. - orientis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18He's right. Complacency and apathy are the forerunners of fascism.
- Pile, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18It's not like anyone was asking who gave the VP a blowjob....
- ChumpChief, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Did they teach you to be a huge tool in college?
- orientis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Me too, I think they're awesome. Not as awesome as Doritos though. But Doritos are pretty awesome. Hey did you see that new television show with that guy from that other show on it except this time he plays a doctor? Isn't that show cool?
TV! - Mardala, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Wow I am really surprised at the ignorance on this issue (please I am being sarcastic).
Its a law that the VP is to disclose who he has meetings with. There is one very simple reason - CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Err.. Its not brain science. It is not going to disclose some big secret that will make the US vulnerable to attack. Quit using that idiotic excuse for why we should be ignoring the fact our current administration has sold us out to corporate interests *pssst that is called fascism last time I checked*. We aren't supposed to write laws that favor corporations over US citizens. - oskite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15There's no such thing as an unprecedented intrusion into the daily operations of the vice presidency.
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Weird. Imagine if your boss asked you where you were, what you were doing, and who you were meeting with WHILE ON THE CLOCK and refusing him/her... how do you think you boss would react??
The prez and VP need to realize that they work for US, the people, WE are their bosses! Not the other way around. - mikesbaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11You all should listen to Eisenhower's farewell address to America. Its like he was telling the future.
- mikesbaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@mcatrage
A secret that leaked... Like what that he was the real head of Enron, he was the reason that we had rolling blackouts in Cali, that we almost went to war with China in 2000 because of this guy.
Yea terrorists win if Americans pull their its head out of its asses. - robdazomba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13This is all very amusing to me because I seem to recall all of my right-wing friends justifying the congressional prying into Bill Clinton's extramarital activities on the basis that the president does not have a "private life" and that the American people are entitled to know exactly what goes on in the White House.
Interesting. - jackspade, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Ugh, I can't believe these people are still in power. At this point, just about everything Cheney and Bush have to say is totally meaningless to me. I used to cringe when I heard Bush's voice or watch him flub a speech, but now this administration has become the equivalent of a vagrant holding up a cardboard sign at a busy intersection. I simply look forward and pretend he's not there.
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"Wait, the whitehouse doesnt want people to know what goes on in their personal lives?"
That's funny. The republicans didn't seem to care about the White House's privacy back when Clinton was in it. I wonder why they care now. (Oh yeah, one of their own is now in the hot seat.) - daGUY, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I see. Asking to see records of who visited Cheney would be an "unprecedented intrusion" on his daily life. Those warrantless wiretaps on millions of other Americans, though...that's acceptable. Gotcha.
- inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12> What millions of Americans have their phones tapped? Can
> you name 10 of them?
No, he can't. And neither can you or anyone else. That's the problem. There's no oversight with these activities which is what the law requires, which is why the Bush admin's wiretapping is illegal. Beyond that, the way this behavior thumbs its nose at the very concept of checks and balances is outrightly unconstitutional. George Bush is not a king. He should not have the unquestioned powers of one. - brickbat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@nreynolds
God I hope you were being sarcastic. In case you weren't
Thats the whole point you idiot...we don't let them and they do it anyway despite what the constitution says and when we just want a list of who visits the guy that works for US he says we would be intruding....Like when we wanted to know who was at the energy meeting where they were apparently carving up Iraq BEFORE 9/11. - Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@franksmith:
I'm sure you sung a different tune when Clinton was being grilled for a blowjob, eh? - Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@fireball
>one of the few who understands the basics of our government
You need to back to school. The basics of the government include being elected public officials. If they get a visit when on the job (read: not on vacation, but at the White House) that's subject to public record and knowledge. The fact that nobody actually has been checking for these records (or rebuffed when they do) is a travesty. I guess if you look at it from a "they are all crooks anyways" I could agree but, in fact, it's simply wrong legally and ethically. Hence the ruling and whacktards like you throwing in your non-cents. - klui, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I have a feeling if the founding fathers were alive today and saw what is happening to the U.S., they would not roll over and die so easily.
- earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11But any boss has the right to know details about an employee when there are good questions about their job preformance that need answering. elected government officials answer to us, the voters, and this transparency of operation is entirely necessary for a democracy to function. Without it it isnt much of a democracy
- JohnnyHuh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Way to set up a false dilemma.
- diecastbeatdown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7my guess is they would start a revolution, much like they did to gain their independance.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8We've gone a long way from:
An Independant Counsel that spent 10's of millions of dollars to investigate the President of the United States for more than 8 years.
to-
We shouldn't know who the Vice President talks to.
I feel confident that most neoclowns out there will miss the connection... - diecastbeatdown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7this is the thing that kills me about the current state of our government. they are elected officials who work for the government yet think they can do whatever they want in full secrecy. i worked in a government job and one of the first things they tell you is that your computer and it's contents are entirely public record, including email or anything else. if someone walked in off the street they could ask to take a look at my emails or files on my computer, that was just part of the job and it was understood.
I would like to try this out on Mr.Bush, see how far we could get asking to look at his emails and files. I'm not well versed in the law regarding this, so there may be some hiccups in the plan. - mikesbaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9enough with the sex ***** respond to the original quote or post lower.
And on that note I think his guest list might not be too hard to figure out. A bunch of Saudis, all of the Enron execs...
also
@nreynolds
YOUR NOT THE VICE PRESIDENT. Thats why no one tracks your movements. You don't have any crimes that could get you into international courts to hide.
@jmgibson
Its so nice to hear people say ***** America again like they did pre 9/11. - Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Ooh, cops.
"Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha
gonna do
When they come for you" - Memitim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7And its cowards like you that have made governments far more dangerous to the people of a land than nearly all external threats, as it has been pretty much since the first tribe chose a chief. Even during some the biggest wars in history, there were governments who were getting better body counts off of their civilian populations than the enemy soldiers were. Government is not a boon, it is a necessary evil. Osama bin Laden couldn't bring about the end of the United States if he had unlimited funds and the cell phone number of every arms dealer on the planet. But corruption in government can tear everything completely apart in record time.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yes but remember, Clinton got a blow job!
Bush is probably sucking off the Saudi king every month, those pigs get in and out access to the US whenever the hell they want and everyone just takes it. - Sil369, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Maybe he's had tea with Osama.
- JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh yeah like the one about bin laden working for the CIA. Can't let that ***** get out too far now can we.
- JohnnyHuh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Taking the decision out of the people who are trying to cover their own asses would be a really good first step. Third party arbitration. Setting the ruling so that the Washington Post could only publish certain meetings would be another way to do it.
They may want to keep meetings private but it really shouldn't be up to them. As has been noted above, transparency in government is supposed to be a fundamental tenet of this country. The Bush Administration has been wiping their ass with the Constitution so long that people have forgotten that the government is supposed to working for all of our interests, not just their best friends and business associates. -
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