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- miamidolfan13, on 08/05/2008, -9/+45This is about as surprising as the sun rising in the morning. The sad thing is that no one is ever held accountable.
http://digg.com/politics/Karl_Rove_the_Architect_o ... - dubious1, on 08/05/2008, -11/+22We don't need a "Truth Commission," we need a "War Crimes Tribunal." Bush and his minions (esp. Chaney) must be held accountable for his myiad violations of the U.S. Constitution and International law.
- Iztikeit, on 08/06/2008, -1/+8Tell us something we don't know. He's just cashing in on the market, and what a big market it is!
Nancy Pants won't allow anything to happen. Nothing is going to happen, unless a few million Americans get pissed off and "DO" something. I bet nothing happens. Any takers? - inactive, on 08/06/2008, -3/+9Ron Suskind is an idiot.
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/06/2008, -3/+9Some dude claims he gave Obama a blowjob... Should I believe him? It was on the internet. He even gave a press conference.
Personally, I think that guy is just as full of ***** as Suskind. But I'm willing to reconsider it if you think we should take everyone at their word without, you know.. evidence? - Naieve, on 08/06/2008, -2/+8Besides this being the 5th duplicate, you should read the part where the guy trying to sell a book says "allegedly ordered".
I'm sure money of course had nothing to do with this though, right?
Cause we all know what sterling pillars of trust the media is, just look at Dan Rather. - akchrs, on 08/06/2008, -1/+7and that we never walked on the moon, the Loch Ness monster, and bigfoot.
- JHB800, on 08/06/2008, -4/+10My question is this: where's the proof? Any shmuck that can string a few sentences together could claim that anyone did pretty much anything. In all of the stories I've read about this guy and his book, from both sides of the ideological spectrum, not one has identified any proof that the author gives for his assertion. If he has proof, he should show it, otherwise, he's just lying through his teeth.
- waggdogg, on 08/06/2008, -2/+8These are the people who believe the twin towers was an inside job.
- JHB800, on 08/06/2008, -0/+5There was proof at that time, corroborated by multiple intelligence agencies across the world. Every major intelligence agency thought that Saddam had WMD's, because thats what he wanted them to think. They were fooled, but that doesn't mean that Bush lied.
I ask again, where is Suskind's proof for this? Why does he claim this letter was forged to start the war when the war started in March and the letter did not surface until December? Why does he claim that the CIA forged this for Bush when, at that time, the CIA was as adversarial towards Bush as the current democratic leadership? Why does he ignore the fact that the White House found this letter so incredibly suspect and misleading that, when asked about it, all they could do was laugh?
Suskind is a sensationalist prick doing this to get publicity for his book. - inactive, on 08/06/2008, -4/+9Oh my God some guy never heard of just released a book you have never read. SO it must be TRUE!! Only on digg.com. Kinda reminds me of the Scott McClellen book. Digg.com users made such a big deal about that and the book was basically pointless.
- StopTheLie, on 08/06/2008, -4/+9Project For a New American Century (PNAC) "Rebuilding America's Defenses" page 26, September 2000 (1 year prior to 9/11)
"In the Persian Gulf region, the presence of American forces, along with British and French units, has become a semipermanent fact of life.
Though the immediate mission of those forces is to enforce the no-fly zones over northern and southern Iraq, they represent the long-term commitment of the United States and its
major allies to a region of vital importance. Indeed, the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security.
While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."
And from page 63:
"...the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor." - blacklilyninja, on 08/06/2008, -1/+5so... can we charge bush's administration with war crimes and war profiteering yet?
- radiofrequency, on 08/06/2008, -4/+8An author writes a fictional account based on corroboration from sources with no access to insider information. If there is any merit whatsoever to these claims, why isn't the administration being indicted in an actual, real court of law?
What about all those accusations that flew around in McClellan's book? Wasn't congress going to subpoena him for testimony? What happened to that "evidence"? STILL no indictment? Still nothing to encourage Nancy Pelosi to come back from vacation and whip out the hammer of justice on the "evil" Bush administration? - mach32, on 08/06/2008, -4/+8diggdolts suckered again.
- DaviDTC, on 08/06/2008, -0/+4You're dumb.
- mogebier, on 08/06/2008, -3/+7Look at the comments every time an Obama and Bush story comes up and try to convince yourself that Diggers all think for themselves. Most of them march to the same lock-step.
- HalleBurton, on 08/05/2008, -8/+11Our we seeing a pattern here, yet, of the 'fixing the facts around the policy?' In addition to this are Rumsfeld's notes from 9/11 about gathering all 'info on SH, related or not,' Bush's idea of antagonizing Saddam with a military aircraft painted to look like a UN plane, Cheney's suggestion to build boats and dress sailors to masquerade as Iranians, or using forged Nigerian documents to push the nuclear fear button? And, this is by no means a comprehensive list.
- inactive, on 08/06/2008, -0/+3ARE and OUR are two different words dammit !
- scoottie, on 08/06/2008, -1/+4this is like the 100th time this same lame story has been posted today
- yournightmare, on 08/06/2008, -0/+3Wow, you're kind of a nutcase there buddy.
- biogears, on 08/06/2008, -1/+4Please, no data, this is digg.
- scdicks, on 08/06/2008, -0/+3seriously. who's word are we supposed to believe. for all i know, some disgruntled CIA folks are getting retribution at W. without the facts, we're just guessing
- inactive, on 08/06/2008, -6/+9100% of digg anti-Bush stories are leftist propaganda. Amazing how this rubbish hits digg.
- SSIV, on 08/05/2008, -9/+12It's as miamidolfan13 says, this is something that was clear from the beginning. USA simply loves to provoke wars.
- daviscoe, on 08/06/2008, -8/+10The later discredited article about Gore's (fictionalized) personal energy use made the front page about a month or so ago. Other like items have done the same. From what I can see here, the comments so far have been reasoned, intelligent and more importantly, mostly REFERENCED. I suspect most Diggers have beyond a high-school education, so you're in a room full of people who, while they happen to agree, are more likely to think for themselves. Facts have a distinctly left-wing bias, and I can see that pisses you off to no end.
- StopTheLie, on 08/06/2008, -0/+2I'm referencing the PDF page number of the "Rebuilding America's Defenses Report.". You can find a copy of the document here: http://tree3.com/rebuilding.pdf
- dubfunk, on 08/06/2008, -0/+2Ever heard of the word "Pulitzer?" Google it, you dolt.
- neognostic, on 08/05/2008, -3/+5Actually less than that. Only about 20-22% of those eligible to vote, marked their ballot for Bush. Apathy won, and America lost.
- Balt, on 08/06/2008, -0/+2As Jack Cafferty stated today on CNN's 'The Situation Room', all the china could be stolen from the White House and Nancy Pelosi and her gang would let them walk out the back door. Both sides are just as corrupt and unfortunately too many sheep in this country just re-elect this fools every time. The country is sinking in quicksand, gas prices are sky-high, the economy is in a tailspin, and the mortgage crisis is making matters worse. Yet congress decides its time for vacation so they simply walk out only to come back in September for 15 days. What will they do in those days? Nothing, just like they've done all year. Then they wonder why they have a lower percentage of approval by the country than Bush does. They lied to get into office and now we pay the price. We need to get a third party to bring some change about. The two party system is dead.
- radiofrequency, on 08/06/2008, -2/+4And yet still not a single actual indictment or guilty verdict from a court. Is it because the accusations are false or because the democrats are too dickless to do anything about it?
- EatSleepJeep, on 08/06/2008, -0/+2yep. ***** crazy. And they're proud of it, too.
- Lamadave222, on 08/06/2008, -2/+4How did we "provoke" Poland and Pearl Harbor, How did we "provoke" the invasion of South Korea? How did we "provoke" the invasion of Kuwait? Truman, a Democrat, dropped the bomb; Kennedy, a Democrat, tried to invade Cuba; Johnson was responsible for the huge build up of troops in Vietnam; Darfur is an Islamist driven genocide that we have done nothing about. All in all, it seems that the Democrats are more warmongering than Republicans if you take a longer view. Of course there was that Republican guy who provoked the Civil War and indirectly freed all the slaves posthumously.
- bunit03057, on 08/06/2008, -1/+3Facts are unbiased, and yea it pisses most "objective" people off when anyone says that. Facts and often opinions do NOT follow party lines, only some people do, (like you).
Although, when people like you say that, it's quite clear that you are at least openly biased. - inactive, on 08/06/2008, -1/+3The epitome of the Liberal argument:
From the dolt above:
"I actually want to believe that the Bush Administration DID try to forge something, if only to give more ammo in the fight for impeachment."
You want to "BELIEVE" so people have "ammo in the fight for impeachment".
You don't care about facts. You don't care if the hearsay is real, you just want to rationalize. - Pake, on 08/06/2008, -2/+3So we have one story today saying they attempted and now we have another story that says they used... Thinkprogress.com just as bad as Fox News, but caters to the Huffingtonpost crowd. Personally, I like avoiding heavily bias media, because it removes McCain votes the ability to attack me when I tell them I support Obama.
- DCMacHead, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1Given Obama's forged certificate of live birth, I wouldn't be throwing stones in the glass house of forgery.
- omegaant, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1Sorry - I want to believe, but your quotes are not on the pages you mention... Where are they?
- radiofrequency, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1"The left doesn't hate America any more than the right does."
Your candidate spent 20 years in this church:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2FCJ7zWEQ
It may not matter to you, it matters to me. Even if I was right on board with Senator Obama on policy, I don't want somebody who exposed himself - and his young children - to this kind of hatred running for the office of President. - Terrk, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Rule Number 1 about being an american.
Never trust the goverment, ever. (which includes all Politicians. Even if you work for the goverment, never trust em.) - omegaant, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1
whoa! okay, I went to scribd.com - pages 26 and 63 of the above document and did not find either quote, or anything remotely like them on either page... are you sure about the title of the doc? - Optyx, on 08/06/2008, -1/+2This guy is a cook unless he can show anything to back up the ***** in his book then all he has is another leftist outlandish bash piece. Seriously stop publishing *****.
- HalleBurton, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1You're right. I saw that after the editing period ended. I am so ashamed. Please forgive me.
- mogebier, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1The so-called "independents" always decide the elections. 14% of the people decide who is to be in Govt. It has been like that forever. The only problem I have with "independents" is the fact they have no real views on anything and tend to change on the drop of a hat or if the wind blows.
The wishy-washy waffle people have the true power. - phoenixshard, on 08/06/2008, -1/+2"Big difference between the first Iraq war, Vietnam, or WWII and the current war in Iraq. And Kennedy didn't try to invade Cuba, either."
You're right about WW II and Operation Desert Storm, but you might want to look back about the start of Vietnam, that was a place we had no business going into either. Kennedy did try to invade Cuba too, you might want to read about the Bay of Pigs invasion. - hockeyplayer66, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1Even though you state it as such, thats not a fact, that is your opinion.
I have very concrete views on a lot of things. Some are conservative and some are liberal and some are a mix. I'm too smart to believe that one side has the answer for everything. The best answer to most questions is a combination of both sides. Just because I might agree with McCain on one thing doesn't mean I have to agree with him on everything and vice versa with Obama. When it comes down to it most people have some hell bent opinion on one or two issues and don't look much past those to see where their candidate stands across the board. So they lump everything together and you end up with "Well if [insert name here] said it, it must be wrong" Then they end up voting all dem or all repub even though it doesn't really represent what they truly believe. - kigcoopa84, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1your wrong and you are crazy.
-He signed the plan to bail idiots out of their mortgage.
- He has given more foreign aid dollars to African and third world countries than any sitting leader for the last eight years.
-The tax rebate checks were his idea; something Obama is trying to do to get elected
- He has sacrificed his reputation to stand behind something he believes in and thinks it right, does not matter if you agree with it or not.
I am by no means saying he is a good president or the smartest guy ever, but the far left will do and say anything possible to paint him as a completely evil man, something you have to be stupid or have something wrong with you to believe. He has been tested more than any other president since ww2. (lets not forget how LBJ kept America out of the war until we got attacked 3 times and Europe was almost conquered) The people who are setting this country back is not George and Chaney (who has been working for Presidents much longer than he has been an "oil man") but you people who have no trust in our leaders or our country. If i was you I would move or just shoot myself. - Iztikeit, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1Nancy Pelosi is just as bad as Bush, no?
- professorai, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I recall that there was a break-in at the Nigerian Embassy in Rome, to steal official letterhead, in January 2001, 9 months before 9/11. This stationary was then used for the forged documents about the Yellow Cake Uranium deal with which Colin Powell committed Political HaraKiri in front of the UN. (If he hadn't, he would be the obvious republican nominee against Obama) Subsequently Italian justice dealt with various agents of CIA and SISMI for their roles.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=com ... -
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