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- aliengoods, on 10/12/2007, -1/+58No *****
- harumph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33the problem is that they still don't CARE that the constitution exists. small point, but important.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Congress has the role and obligation to hold hearings when suspicious of executive branch abuses of power, especially when those abuses are blatantly apparent. As elected public servants they must hold individuals personally accountable, prosecute and imprison those who break the laws of the land.
When the ruling party ignores the rule of law, it cannot run a country that stands as a beacon for liberty and justice. Congress must impeach those who have abused their office and powers and remove those who belong to secret societies that seek power, gain and offer immunity from crimes.
This is without doubt the darkest period of American history and our safety from government may rest solely on this Congress. We the people have trusted Congress to enforce their oversight powers for our protection. These wise men and women must personally remember the principles they stand for, and stand up and protect the people from the executive branch. Now is the day for Congress to decide whom they serve and to establish a legacy they will be proud of today, for their families and for all Americans. - aliengoods, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19I blame that one on congress. The president doesn't have any fear, because congress has been his rubber stamp.
- HunterTV, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Electrolytes have what Constitutions crave.
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13why should they, it's just a damn piece of paper right?
- nick415, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14i think that the administration has the same kind of sentiments toward the constitution that Gonzales has toward the geneva conventions:
"I think it's a quaint document."
but, you know, its only the basis of this idea "democracy" that we our soldiers are dying for.....
unless... - elchip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Duh. Congress has oversight through impeachment, and to carry out an impeachment implies knowing the facts, and you can't get to the facts without investigations and oversight.
Not to mention one of Congress' powers is "to constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court." - ekso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Wow. It took them one month to read the constitution of the country THEY RUN! Amazing achievement.
/sarcasm - mrmcbastard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@elchip
You and I know this, and a lot of American citizens know this, but the people who run our country can't be bothered with these minor details. - dhirschl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Why does this sound like something you would find on 'The Onion' ?
- bigspruce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6These folks took an oath, which they pretty much have ignored; we really need to start throwing them in prision over what they've done.
(getting them out of power first would be a good start) - mythandros, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No, it's really not that complicated. To quote elchip above: "Duh. Congress has oversight through impeachment, and to carry out an impeachment implies knowing the facts, and you can't get to the facts without investigations and oversight."
- pinchduck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@readthis
You are spot on with your first two paragraphs. With your third, however, you take an abrupt turn away from reality. This is the darkest period in the history of America? What if I told you there was a period when several states outright quit the union, took up arms against those states that were left, and both groups fought a bloody and horrible war over whether or not the states were allowed to quit? That was easily the darkest period in American history. Just because it is no longer in living memory doesn't reduce the horror of the war, or its impact on our country. In 140 years, I doubt anyone will remember who President Bush was. Everyone remembers Lincoln.
Congress, while acting sluggishly, is doing its oversight job. The union is not breaking up, nor should it. We are not killing each other in the streets over political disagreements, we are using our democratic institutions to voice our displeasure. You may not like the policies of the current administration, but it will go away within two years. In short, everything is working as it is supposed to when the people get pissed off at an administration. - Pfhreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3FatherVic,
You're misusing the term "Neolib(eral)": http://web.inter.nl.net/users/Paul.Treanor/neoliberalism.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@pinchduck -- your comment is well written and admirable. Thank you for that reminder about the American civil war.
I fear though that the Patriot act, destruction of the Bill of Rights, and other laws that can and may be used against the American people can have fear-reaching consequences, much further than the end of Bush's administration unless a decent president is elected.
We've seen how the administration can use the media to push its agendas and cover up its crimes. Leaders who deceive the people they govern must be held accountable now. It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark and the holocaust didn't happen until after Hitler rose to power. - elchip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31) The President, through vetoing laws, through the manner in which he enforces laws, through his control over law enforcement agencies, through the VP's status as President of the Senate, through ability to call emergency sessions of Congress, through his ability to dismiss Congress if they can't agree on when to adjournment
2) The Supreme Court, through deciding that laws are unconstitutional or deciding how they must be applied
3) Congress itself, which can expel its own members with a two-thirds vote - elchip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Umm... I was advocating separate but equal. Where didn't I?
- tsf5000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3FTA
"I believe that this administration has been responsive to Congress, as we’ve worked with the new majorities as well, that we’ve been responsive.", Dana Perino
What planet does she live on? - elchip, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Congress is the writer, the President is the director, the Supreme Court is the producer.
The first writes the script, the second turns the script into something tangible, and the third has the final say on decisions of the other two.
Congress doesn't have too much power. They have the powers they were intended to have by the Constitution, and it's worked pretty well for 220 years.
If anything, the director is trying to scoop away some of the writer's and producer's roles for himself. - edm1950, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeah guess they had to back away from that stance seeing as how ignoring or usurping the powers of the congress could be seen as an impeachable offense.
- PoconoPCDoctor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Do something this Saturday - April 28th 2007 - It may just be symbolic, but I think it'll make you feel better about the "decider."
http://www.a28.org/
Anybody can start an A28 action. It can be as small as writing IMPEACH on the sidewalk in chalk or as large as organizing 2,000 people on a beach to make a human mural. Be creative! Some of the ways that people are talking about spelling it out include: signs, gigantic lasers, toy soldiers, stencils, LED throwies, freewayblogging, banner drops, light projections, t-shirts, rocks, skydivers, skywriters, peaches, christmas lights, flags and balloons. Join the discussion about creative ways to spell it out on A28’s new ImpeachSpace network. - Caffeinate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oh boy. After 6 years of "he's the president, it is unpatriotic to go against him", a Republican controlled Legislative branch and Judicial branch, now we get to hear "It's the Democrats fault things aren't working now because they are in Congress!"
Typical divisive partisan hypocrisy. - ekso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Man! You got right to the point! It does looks like an article from The Onion indeed!!
- Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I hate to break this to you, but you're quoting a fictitious phrase from an article found on the site, TheSpoof.com In fact, if you weren't unable to determine the legitimacy of the quote by the URL alone, perhaps the title will clue you in: Alberto Gonzales to Resign - Opening Restaurant
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i17135 - moxley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So wy the hell have only a few congress people stepped up and made a ruckus about this? The ones who have are awesome, but the fact that there haven't been more is one of many indications of just how compromised our system is.
- walkingdogs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Sorry It took us so long to learn to speak out the other side of our mouths.
- sibhod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So they've gone from "Congress has no oversight" to "Congress has oversight, but actually practicing it is 'over-reaching'."
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Don't blame Reagan, he didn't want Bush as VP.
That was forced on him at the very last minute...... - MooseSquirell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Alberto Gonzales Called A Greasy Wetback
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i17560
TheSpoof.com is a pretty funny place...LOL!!!! - drgnfly84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow she's a bitch.
Hope she enjoyed her job. - drfloyd5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@HunterTV - You mean, from the toilet? Gross.
- olik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No, that's wrong. Whatever Congress needs for impeachment it gets in the impeachment trial. In fact, impeachment is not the reason that Congress has oversight authority. IT'S JUST NOT THAT F*ING SIMPLE.
*Duh* - strabes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is SO OLD. Reagan took over the Presidency from Carter in 1981. Seriously, he isn't even president anymore. Oh wait...
By the way, I'm not a big fan of Bush. - macfanboi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1DId she say something, cause all I saw were those DSL moving. Great move by the Bushies to make her Press Secretary.
- Alaris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if only congress would get their act together and actually do some overseeing
- obliviousfool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0When did the white house press secretary get hot?
- rnwen2750, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@ when - It's better than hearing "LALALA BUSH IS MY HERO LALALA HE CAN DO NO EVIL LALALA GORE SUCKS BECAUSE HE IS AN EFFECTIVE CHANGE-MAKER LALALA"
- Wheelpose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Quick, somebody tell Condi!
- olik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Point to the words granting Congress “extensive authority to oversee and investigate executive branch activities.” You can't, they aren't there. It's not wrong, but it's much more complicated.
- Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Replied to the wrong one -- digg down.
- shibz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1nah
- OralCavity, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2werd
- jeanette3654, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Mighty white of them!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1@elchip
Wow... I guess all that "separate but equal" stuff I was taught in Government class in high school was just a bunch of hooey, then, eh?
What the ***** are they teaching in schools nowdays?!? - marmanukem, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2DE DE DEEEE.
/Mencia - dalexandruz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0and who has oversight over congress? the ppl,hahahaha? congress is corrupt. no more third party allowed in government.
- nick415, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0i think that the administration has the same kind of sentiments toward the constitution that Gonzales has toward the geneva conventions:
"I think it's a quaint document."
but, you know, its only the basis of this idea "democracy" that our soldiers are dying for.....
unless... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+0Admitted or Stated.
nice try NeoLibs - whenwasit, on 10/12/2007, -16/+1rumble rumble rumble "Bush is evil..." rumble rumble rumble "He drinks oil and loves killing Iraqi babies..." rumble rumble rumble
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