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White House Must Resolve E-Mail Backup 'Ambiguity'

pcworld.com — A federal judge has told the White House to answer "once and for all" whether backup tapes holding e-mail documents sought by...

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  • InorganicMatter, on 04/27/2008, -4/+8Everyone knows they were "accidentally" lost. Do we really need a federal judge to clarify it?
    • theOster, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2more to the point...the EoP uses PSTs??! LOL
      • nycmac247, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2yeah, and I want to make a pun on the word "exchange" but cannot think of any (just woke up)
    • mOdQuArK, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4Accidentally, hell. If they haven't made absolutely beyond-all-doubt sure that those damn emails were lost, then somebody's head is going to roll!
  • Pg5of16, on 04/27/2008, -0/+16Just another example of the Bush political machine trying to keep secrets from the American people.
    • PabloMac, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1Yeah, those (slang for people born of unmarried parents) are the first ones to do that, too.
      • dgendreau, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Whats wrong with the word Bastard? Dont mince words. You thought it and communicated it, so why not actually say it? Are you like six years old or something?
  • breadfred, on 04/27/2008, -0/+27Anyone who believes there was no backup needs their head examined. Standard backup procedures for any organization include off-site backup and a second backup. Certainly for mission-critical and law-enforced data retention information. Heck, I would be surprised if there were not at least 3 different backup-sites.
    It is time for those white house-folk to take some responsibilities for their actions: let's see those emails!
    • p0tent1al, on 04/27/2008, -0/+9there probably was a backup, but that backup has probably been destroyed by now.
    • PabloMac, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2So, by claiming they don't have backups, they are admitting to being stupid.
      • nycmac247, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4Not stupid, illegal as in jail time.
        (see Sarbanes-Oxley, among other acts)
    • AngryFox, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1We should also consider the possibility that instead of using "standard backup procedures for any organization", the EoP's backup system is woefully inadequate and far out-of-date. I agree with you in that backups surely exist, or existed, but frankly, I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that their network recovery system is pathetic; likely due to security and diverted funding. We have seen from both the President's office and the Vice-President's, in this administration and others past, an exceptional dislike for making their internal discussions and decision-making notes public. So, why even making backing that stuff up a priority?
      • breadfred, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Isn't making proper recoverable backups mandatory?
        • MacBookForMe, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1obviously not, because nobody enforces that
  • threemagic, on 04/27/2008, -0/+6Apparently no one has ever paid attention to the kinds of people that get hired in IT by the government. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it hasn't been working, no on checked on it, all because they were too busy playing WoW during work hours.
    • PabloMac, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3Don't generalize. I know some federal agencies who hire IT people who act like rabid dogs, actively seeking security violations, making many enemies along the way, I might add. Don't ask how I know this.
  • Scopitone, on 04/27/2008, -0/+13The only way we'll ever see those emails is if a patriotic whistle blower steps forward with the data on hand, not from some heroic judge throwing paper and "laws" at them.
  • farkis, on 04/27/2008, -14/+2Freaking judge troll, when will those elitist left wing radical judges give it a rest and let GW do his job?
    • Malacandra95, on 04/27/2008, -0/+10Part of the job of the President is to obey the law, uphold the Constitution, and be accountable to the American people. Laws regarding the preservation of documents, memos and communications within the executive branch are part of the rules necessary to maintaining a free society. The circumvention of those rules demonstrates contempt for the American people and their right to know how their tax money is being used.
    • insanebrain, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8He is doing his job. . America is almost destroyed. Mission accomplished.
    • an0nymous, on 04/27/2008, -0/+6Freaking GW! Why doesn't he just comply with the law and get back to work?
    • phunlee, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5This was sarcasm, right?
      • Dweller99, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2I like to think so, but around here? nothing surprises me anymore.
  • gnat74, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8Look what happened to the whistle blower in CHG that came forward with the mayor's emails that were "lost" they charged her with tampering with a city computer and steeling files!!! These elected officials REP OR DEM live in their own world and say ***** the rest of us!!
  • leapa, on 04/27/2008, -2/+4Bush and fellow cronies should be charged for tampering with evidence. Oh and while we're on the subject - how about treason and all the other criminal acts that violate our constitution.
  • PacketScan, on 04/27/2008, -0/+6Anyone else look at this from a tech perspective and see this as a false hood? If i lost backups I'd be fired.. well I'd fire myself.. cause you DON'T LOOSE DATA EVER...
    When you do loose data you look suspicious.
    • Loonacy, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Maybe you should tighten that data.
    • Meep3D, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1That makes no sense.
    • ORBAT, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1"When you do loose data you look suspicious." Apparently you've been doing the data too much if it's that loose.
  • an0nymous, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1"In addition, he recommended that White House employees be ordered to turn over any flash drives or other portable media that may contain e-mails sent or received between the dates in question."
    So, how much porn do you think they would find?

    If I am not mistaken the first step of forensic data recory is to do a md5 hash and copy the entire disk. Wow, I would like to be one of the investigators. That would be fascinating.
    • charlietuna, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Google "Image Masster RoadMasster"
      • an0nymous, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1that. is. AWESOME.
        Thanks for the suggestion. I was aware of the Disk Jockey Pro and the Talon, but that roadmasster thing is sick.
  • Hincapie, on 04/27/2008, -0/+6when all is said and done with the bush administration i wonder what we'll find out went on?
    • PabloMac, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Hopefully nothing involving the Lincoln bedroom.
      • nycmac247, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon
        James Dale Guckert (born 1957) a conservative columnist, and prostitute who worked under the pseudonym Jeff Gannon as a White House reporter between 2003 and 2005 , representing the virtual organization Talon News. Gannon first gained national attention during a presidential press conference on January 26, 2005, when he asked United States President George W. Bush a question that some in the press corps considered "so friendly it might have been planted."[1] Gannon stated that this question was not meant to be friendly, but to expose the hypocrisy of the left.[citation needed]
        Gannon routinely obtained daily passes to White House briefings, attending four Bush press conferences and appearing regularly at White House press briefings. Although he did not qualify for a Congressional press pass, Gannon was given daily passes to White House press briefings "after supplying his real name, date of birth and Social Security number."[2] Gannon came under public scrutiny for his lack of a journalistic background prior to his work with Talon[3][4] and his involvement with various homosexual escort service websites using the professional name "Bulldog". Gannon resigned from Talon News on February 8, 2005. Continuing to use the name Gannon, he has since created his own official homepage and worked for a time as a columnist for the Washington Blade newspaper, where he came out as gay.[5]
        Currently, Gannon operates JeffGannon.com, a blog where he criticizes perceived double standards used by both the "Old Media" and the "Angry Gay Left."[6] He recently published a book titled, The Great Media War.
        • ORBAT, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1tl;dr
        • nycmac247, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2thanks ORBAT
          1) Gay male prostitute posed as reporter and regularly went to white house press briefings
          2) documents show that same guy spent several nights at white house when no other press was there
    • charlietuna, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Will anyone care? It seems to me no, since this was featured by PC World and not the NY Times, or Washington Post.
  • charlietuna, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5So only PC World is reporting this!? Damn press - Colbert is right, they only rewrite the press releases. There is far too little investigative journalism.
  • kiwiboyus, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Throw the crooks in jail.
  • nycmac247, on 04/27/2008, -0/+7If this was a fortune 500 company in legal hot water "Uhhh...we lost it" would be treated much differently, I believe
  • diggdallas, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2In Soviet Russia, e-mail resolves White House
  • LukasSmith, on 04/27/2008, -9/+1Buried for PCWORLD article. I mean seriously PCWORLD is garbage.
    • Dweller99, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Yes, we get it. If the source does not praise your hero then it (pick one - sucks, is biased, garbage, crap, spam, MSM, liberal).
  • oldgal, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2never underestimate the incompetency of this administration
  • jab9990, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Bush is terrified that there is evidence of his crimes left around somewhere that he doesn't know about. This terror of being caught and held accountable is causing his extreme guilty demeanor, of desperately trying to hide everything he can, whenever he has a chance to do so. And he is right to be afraid, because like every criminal, he is about to find out that committing crimes is easy, it's getting away with them that is almost impossible.
  • Arcueid01, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5This ***** was never accidentally lost. It was conveniently and intentionally lost. Bush is covering up his crimes.
  • RRJackson, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4Heh...and this is different than all the other times they've ignored orders from a judge in what way? This administration is in no way bound by the rule of law. It's becoming almost amusing in a sad and tragic way.
  • happyhead7, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3Why are the democrats so ***** to go after the Bush Administration? Do yo uthink the Republicans are going to be so nice and passive when Obama or Hillary is in the Oval Office?
  • dupswapdrop, on 04/28/2008, -1/+2So I lost it is good enough for mr bush it should be good enough for the rest of us. My taxes oh I must have lost them!
  • normlsparky, on 04/28/2008, -0/+3why doesn't bush just write up another executive order to cover his ass? it wouldn't be the first time. maybe he should just issue one broad based statement declaring that no law anywhere, at any time, applies to him- EVER. and what the hell, make it retroactive back to the 1st day of his presidency. it would save him alot of time.
    • Surferess, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2I believe that has already been done. It was some secret meeting pre 9/11.
  • averagejoesgym, on 04/28/2008, -0/+6I really get depressed when people try to diminish how corrupt the Bush administration has been by saying things like, "All politicians lie, etc..." All politicians don't kill 4,000 American soldiers and wound many times more for an imperialistic, oil-centric war, all politicians don't use Orwell's "1984" as their strategic guidebook, all politicians don't openly and arrogantly wipe their asses with the US constitution, all politicians don't have loyalty oaths and hire only under-qualified cronies, all politicians don't try to strip away fundamental rights to due process and a right to privacy, all politicians don't make the wealthiest 10%'s income double in eight years while the bottom 50%'s actually decreases, and finally, last but not least, all politicians don't blatantly let fellow countrymen who happen to be the wrong color suffer needlessly when a natural disaster makes them need the government most.
    • TrevaLVF, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2People that attempt to dismiss any corruption and tyranny practiced by politicians are apathetic. They also bear part of the responsibility for what is wrong with this country and our government because their attitude is the equivalent of consent.
  • BlacklabelSAR, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2If our "Leaders" are who our children emulate, we will have a (another) generation of sociopaths.
  • Surferess, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2Perhaps one of the many countries that is spying on us has back up copies we can borrow?
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