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- EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -13/+66And, if the WH follows the Katrina playbook, the next set of excuses will be:
* Gov. Sebelius didn't ask for the troops in time (oops, that one's done).
* If we'd simply put the national guard under Federal control, this wouldn't have happened.
* Look, no one ever guessed there would be twisters in Kansas.
* You're doing a heckuvajob, Snowie [pauses to hear KR whisper, then...] Snowie, you're fired! - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -11/+44The Katrina Playbook is his playbook for everything. Blame everything on everyone else.
He's just like his Mother. He can't trouble "his beautiful mind" with such drivel.
He's a Bonesman. They're smarter than the rest of us.
"The members call themselves "Knights," and simultaneously call everyone else in the world at large "barbarians." Another dissociation is that clocks in the Bones "tomb" run intentionally five minutes ahead of the rest of the world, to give the members an ongoing sense that the Bonesmen's space is a totally separate world — and a world just a bit ahead of the curve of the rest of the "barbarians" outside."
-- http://www.answers.com/topic/skull-and-bones
This is how Bush thinks. - flernk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+32 "Time and again, when the people of Kansas need help, the Kansas National Guard has responded without hesitation," Sebelius said. "Now the Guard needs Washington’s help. The President and Congress need to step up to the plate and give our Guard members the support they deserve." [...]
"The Guard cannot train on equipment they do not have," Sebelius continued. "The more resources that are left behind, the less able our guardsmen are to prepare here at home. And in a state like Kansas, where tornados, floods, blizzards and wildfires can seemingly happen all at once, we need our Guardsmen to be as prepared as possible."
- Kathleen Sebelius, Feb. 27, 2007
The White House is lying. Again. She's been "complaining" for a while now. - chase001, on 10/12/2007, -10/+28Don't forget they have to have the Republican Noise Machine swiftboat her like they did Ray Nagin.
- sonaro, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24In other words, this is exactly what their reasoning is; "Oh, now you actually *need* the equipment now? You will have to submit another request."
This is how the administration tries to get out of its responsibility, and it works in the minds of their die-hard followers, right-wing media outlets and other humans with mental deficiencies. It doesn't matter that one has been asking for assistance for years, it only matters that they didn't ask again, immediately following the latest need for it. - tsf5000, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19Does anyone really expect the Bush administration to accept responsibility for anything anymore?
- mdfrake, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Actually, the next response by the White House will probably be to blame the Democrats in Congress for not adequately funding the debacle, er, war in Iraq. Can someone step up and impeach all of these ***** and idiots?
- spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tammany_Ring%2C_Nast.jpg
- flernk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12What?
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15While I hate the Bush administration for many things, I think it's particularly deplorable that they'd try to blame the victim in this situation.
- johnhummel, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14When Bush stops being responsible for things under his control, then people will stop blaming him.
- vulgrin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Yep, they'll both get lifetime pensions, round the clock security, numerous speaking engagements around the world (well, at least Dick will) and lots and lots of "consulting" jobs at lots of lucrative companies that they helped out over the past 6 years.
They'll also get blamed for every single thing that's wrong with the country for the next 10 years - just like Clinton. Although this time, most of that blame will be right. But seriously, if Bush doesn't feel ashamed now, he won't feel ashamed when he's on permanent vacation down in Crawford in 2009... - Toshibi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@zeroeffect
"Is that the best you've got? Blaming democrats for showing the complete incompetence of the Bush Administration?"
It's not just the Bush Administration. It's the complete incompetence of government at large. - evanmyers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Oh Kathleen Sebelius, how I love you. Let me count the ways:
You're a democrat in Kansas! - sharpfork, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10@aeaus
Judging by your comments on other stories, your sarcasm was missed on this one... - thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11@chase001
Ray "This will be a chocolate city" Nagin?
One of the biggest racists in office?
He brought his troubles on himself. - edm1950, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7When are they gonna put the Ketchum Washington Group out of business ***** like this is a disgrace, and needs to be dealt with. It's time to send the whole Washington PR community to Gitmo they are more insidious than Al Queda.
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9"The Governor shouldn't have had all those tornadoes during a national crisis"
- zeroeffect, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10@drinkxredxbull
Is that the best you've got? Blaming democrats for showing the complete incompetence of the Bush Administration?
How about you try to show that this is anyone's fault but the current administration. It must be embarrassing for you to try to make a case against Democrats when the Republicans keep digging a deeper hole for themselves. I love watching Republican lemmings walking off a cliff. It's too bad that the rest of the country has to suffer for the Republican actions (who had been in complete control of all three Branches until just recently). But finally, their war profiteering, do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do, corporate backscratching is catching up with them. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0227-02.htm
Bush Policies Are Weakening National Guard, Governors Say
February 27, 2006 - jxs2151, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"The Guard has a unique dual mission, with both Federal and State responsibilities. During peacetime, the Governor through the State Adjutant General commands Guard forces. The Governor can call the Guard into action during local or statewide emergencies, such as storms, drought, and civil disturbances, to name a few. In addition, the President of the United States can activate the National Guard to participate in Federal missions."
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/arng.htm - zeroeffect, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Why must the White House try to blame everyone else when they've had a blank check for the past six year. Effectively shaping this country any way they please?
- MacBastard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Whoa - 40% of their Army Guard dual-use equipment is missing or not available? That's the stuff they actually need during a natural disaster, i.e. vehicles and such. Tornado season doesn't let up until the end of June, and the numbers are already trending toward a heavy year with 268 tornadoes (as of today) in the US just this month alone. What's going to happen if Kansas gets sucker-punched again by another F5 or two?
The Bastard - DRINKxREDxBULL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Way to completely not address the issue. They could be at 20% strength and still be able to respond. Plus neighboring MO said they would send troops, but haven't been asked. Nice try with the red herring about blackwater.
- zeroeffect, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@crudomacdoogle
That's funny, I just read the following:
"Maj. Gen. Tod Bunting, the state's adjutant general, said the Kansas National Guard was equipped to about 40 percent of its necessary levels, down from the 60 percent it had at the start of the war."
Afghanistan."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070508/ap_on_el_pr/brownback_tornado_2
Bottom of the article - mjd420nova, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8I see the biggest problem with the national guard is that too many of them are deployed to Iraq and Afganistan. These troops are not combat trained, their main training is in restoration of services in devastated areas caused by such natural disasters as flooding, tornado, hurricanes, earthquakes and tidal waves. Deployment of these troops to combat zones has left many states without adequate protection for these types of events. Bring those troops home now and replace them with combat troops.
- The_Red_Monkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yup, its the federal governments responsibility to save everyone. Unless you want to legalize pot then stay out. You all are idiots. The national guard being called into an area of 10,000 people to rebuild does not require the whole states national guards soldiers. I have been through massive quakes in CA and never saw one guardsman here. And I was in a town of 150k near the epicenter. Whole downtown districts collapsed and you know what we did, we rebuilt and moved along without the the superfeds coming in to intercede. We used fed disaster funds and our own workers.
And for Zeroeffect who's name reflects his life's contributions
"Lets look at the republican playbook:
1) Lie about WMDs in Iraq and invade
2) Send billions of dollars "rebuild" Iraq in no-bid contracts (to Republican friendly Corporations)
3) Have Haliburton and Blackwater massively overcharge the government on these no-bid contracts (don't need a ??? on this one)
4) Profit"
Um, everyone said they had WMDs. Reports date back to the Clinton years. Those "republican" friendly companys spend a lot of money on Democrats as well. Once you realize all politicians are lying ***** you will be a lot better off.
Now you will say "OBama is not a paid off scum." Check into how he bought his last house. He is as dirty as the rest of Chicago politics.
And for the rest of you tinfoil hatters. A UFO cause the tornado and it was built by haliburton and flown by the Illuminati. - phatt-matt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It was the Kansas governor that made the charge. The White House is responding. The better question to ask is, "Why do liberals have to try to link every problem to Iraq?"
- EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Actually, vulgrin, last I heard, the President was buying up land in Paraguay, just in case.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1928928,00.html - gigawatts2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2But where are the sources that you reference, to prove these detainments happen. And I'm not talking anything that has been spun, right or left.
I almost don't believe either side, since there is always conflicting information, always from the extremities. But for everyone to post President Bush's name as the reason for every problem, is simply rediculous. Blame his advisors.... they're the ones that provide him with the information, and in this case, it's not even their fault. The governor should stop worrying about pointing her finger at somebody, and request some help from the surrounding states.... but instead she want's to bash the president, once again. - TreeHuggerChick, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Expected, but totally shameful. Once again, the federal response to a crisis is none at all and blame directed toward the wrong people.
- DRINKxREDxBULL, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Brownback said Tuesday that local officials and the Kansas National Guard commander all told him they have the resources needed to respond.
Her spokeswoman (the governor's), Nicole Corcoran, said the governor didn’t mean to imply that the state was ill-equipped to deal with this storm. “We are doing absolutely fine right now,” Corcoran said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070508/ap_on_el_pr/brownback_tornado_2
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/08/ks-gov-tries-her-hand-at-disaster-chasing/ - Reksh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4He's the Commander Guy he knows what his talking about :P
- gigawatts2k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Louisiana is still in ruins, cause the people of Louisiana won't get off they're a$$es and do something about it. Look at the Mississippi and Alabama coasts, that actually were hit by the hurricane itself... they're already back and flourishing... know why, cause they didn't wait for handouts and got to work themselves. Louisiana was full of whiny beggars, and the folks that got out (either before or after) are the ones that wanted to so something with their lives and not wait for handouts... "I survived Katrina, and all I got was this T-Shirt, a lap dance, and a 52" plasma screen"..... sound familiar. Nothing against those who were victims, but they were victims of a Hurricane, not the Bush Administration... cause I don't think he has some kind of magic weather machine.
All the privacy, rights and citizenship hasn't been eroded away. Are you living any differently? Sounds like somebody has been picking up on cliche's and buzz words. - Nismobeach, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I hate Sebelius, but I think that Tony Snow's comment was inaccurate. She never sent the National Guard to Iraq and it's not her fault that many National Guard troops also double as first responders in their civilian jobs.
- endtyranny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Playing politics during an emergency is just low. Let's not repeat Katrina.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+157 YEARS of THE BLAME GAME......from the self-serving Republican Party, the Party of 1000 Excuses
It's the liberals. It's the ACLU. It's Clinton. It's Monica. It's the "climate of permissiveness". It's France. It's the liberal media. It's Clinton's p*nis. It's Hillary. It's Gov. Dean. We never could have known they'd fly planes into buildings. "No actionable intelligence". They didn't tell us to do anything. O'Neill's lying. Clarke's lying. General Shinseki's lying. The Union of Concerned Scientists is lying. Our own weapons inspector David Kay's lying. Wilson's lying. John Dean's lying. Newsweek lied! CBS lied! Everyone's lying but us. We had to lie. We never lied.
Plame outed herself. Her husband outed her. The liberals outed her. No one outed her, since everyone already knew her covert identity. Rove had nothing to do with it. No comment. Lib'ral, lib'ral, lib'ral.
It's the libs that tried to pull Schiavo's feeding tube. It doesn't matter that DeLay pulled his own dad's feeding tube. "Culture of life". It's Janet Jackson's boobs; it's the Statue of Justice's boobs. Reading the news might cloud my judgement. It's the "decade our government...blinded itself to our enemies". It's the homosexuals wanting to marry. "Restore honor and dignity to the White House". A decision to go to war wasn't a decision to go to war. "No actionable intelligence". It's the pledge of allegiance. They're taking God out of America. Osama didn't tell us when, how, where, and by what means he'd attack, and he didn't leave a forwarding address. The 9/11 panel is biased against us. Saddam = Al Qaida. Saddam = Al Qaida.
Chalabi's an honorable man and I believe everything he says about WMDs. Chalabi's a crook and he passed secrets to Iran. Chalabi's the liberals' fault because they didn't shoot us when we started using his "intelligence". Chalabi? I don't know any 'Chalabi'!
It's just a few dead-enders. They'll be gone when we capture Saddam. They'll be gone when we capture Saddam's sons. They'll be gone when we hand over "sovereignty". They'll be gone when Iraq has elections. They'll be gone in 12 years. They'll never be gone.
We fight them in London so we don't have to fight them, er, uh, well, can't get fooled again!
Bolton didn't lie! He just knowingly gave inaccurate answers under oath!
Aw, so what's another ISLAMIC STATE in the mideast? It's not like Bush has made it a home for terrorists or anything!
It's all these former staffers hawking their books. Money never corrupted anyone. "I'm a uniter, not a divider!" It's the stem cells. It's the feminazis, the intellectual elitists, and the ecoterrorists.
It's the Hurricane, It's the victims. It's the poor. It's the dead. It's the disabled... the elderly. It's those that didn't evacuate. It's the buses.
It's Cthulhu. It's the martians, It's Mickey Mouse, It's The Tooth Fairy, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,
It's ALWAYS anyone but the GOP!! - jll3sonex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's the way it's been for about the last 40 years - Democrats will never SOLVE a problem that can be used for campaign promise fodder. After the election, all the promises just drift away... Like Pelosi, and her 'most ethical Congress ever' promise and how she was going to be real effective. Enough people believed the Democrat's promises pre election to get the Dems in control, yet all of a sudden...
Nothing...
Ever...
Gets...
Done... (except for earmarks for THEM, of course...)
But they've ALWAYS got a good excuse for nothing ever happening! - twiceasworn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5"According to the National Guard Commander, the equipment and man power is there, but nobody asked for it... she may have complained earlier, and got the equipment, but just wanted to smear the president's name just like all the other left wing looneys.".
Are you kidding me with this? No, no and no. How long does this ridiculous raping of the states resources have to go on until everyone realizes we are being totally ***** by this administration. You can not ignore the insanity going on right now. Louisiana is STILL a disaster area. That is crazy! That ***** should have been taken care of long ago. We are spread so ***** thin because of this "war on terror" (how you have a war on a word I'm not sure). I am so tire of people who refuse to look at what is going on around them. Our rights, resources and citizenship is slowly being eroded away by bills/legislation that are buried inside positive legislation. What? Are there riots in the street? No. Does the average American know that this is happening? No. Its a ***** shame. The people should control the government, not the other way around. - mcquitty, on 04/02/2009, -0/+1Vitrio,
Can you show me any other amendment that gives the state or federal government a right?
It's about limitations on government, not saying the states have a right to set up their own armies. Is the first amendment giving the state the right to own newspapers?
How about the third: "No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."
Again, is this a right for the government or state?
Please show me one example of the Bill of Rights giving a state a right and not explicitly limiting the government's "rights". - SirBotchness, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I guess the WH is thinking that if they fix this situation in a proper manner they would in turn be letting the terrorists win. Either that or they'll blame the tornados on Kathleen.
"well you should have tried to stop it before it even happened" - Hillsfar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Snowie's doing a heckuva (snow) job!" - G.W. Bush
- zeroeffect, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7@Toshibi
"It's not just the Bush Administration. It's the complete incompetence of government at large."
I disagree, when they controlled all 3 branches of government, they had a blank check to do whatever they wanted. For six years they had a blank check and this is just one more black mark on a horrible record. So no, it is not all of the government at large. The focus should squarely fall on the people who had complete control for the past six years. To say government is broken and the two party system just isn't working is one thing, but to try and use that to focus the blame away from the ruling party for the past six years is wrong.
Once again, Republicans were in complete control for six years. - VitriolAndAngst, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7Bush was haggling with Blanco to take control of the Louisiana National Guard before allowing any federal help. He was essentially holding her citizens hostage to take over a States rights. States Organize Militias -- as per the National Guard (the Second amendment isn't about NRA gun nuts, it's about citizen troops).
We'd be a lot better off with all citizens with some training to defend their homestead instead of a permanent standing army -- like Sweden. - inajeep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Of course Tony wasn't aware of the documented requests. He may have never looked up the information but someone did.
- CrudoMacDoogle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ha that'd be Greensburg KS on 5-4-2007
- CrudoMacDoogle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Not an *****, I live not too far from the town and in fact my house was hit by the same storm and the next three days worth, we were lucky enough to only get flash floods.
And yes I did make a generalization with the flyover remark, but here in the midwest it seems that the only time people care is when they use us for their political agenda, so i may be a bit jaded We get hit by tornados all the time in the spring, and the chances of two more f5's in Kansas this year is very remote, even so 40% of the KNG would be plenty to take care of it and 60% would overkill. - satanatnmtedu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2She did not send the troops to Iraq. Governors do not make federal policy decisions.
- edm1950, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Because conservatives have their heads too far up Karl Roves ass to see what's going on, so liberals have to describe the scene for them.
- scottelloco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Here's another from April 14th, 2007 that directly contradicts Tony Snow's statement. Tony was smart enough to add the qualifier "not aware of" to his statement in order for it to not be an outright lie:
Sebelius says war saps Guard strength at home
More governors have expressed worries about their ability to respond to domestic disasters.
http://www.kansascity.com/153/story/70213.html
TOPEKA | Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius says she fears deployments of Kansas National Guard troops and equipment could hurt the state’s ability to react to disasters on the homefront.
Her remarks this week, which were similar to ones she had made in the past, came as more governors criticized Washington’s use of Guard members in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. National Guard personnel are under the dual command of the president and the governor in their home state.
The criticism coincided with the Pentagon’s announcement that it would call up about 13,000 additional Guard members for active duty next year. Kansas now has about 1,000 Guard troops serving in Iraq, Afghanistan and on the Mexican border.
Sebelius, a Democrat, said she was concerned Kansas may be left vulnerable if the nation continues to rely so heavily on Guard troops.
“This is a growing problem and a huge homeland security issue,” she said. -
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