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- moofree, on 04/24/2009, -1/+21Electrical power plant technician!
- DonAlfred, on 04/24/2009, -2/+22the easiest way to power? Be rich.
- Pinkertinkle, on 04/24/2009, -1/+14So China is run by engineers and America by lawyers. Doesn't sound good for us.
- sndream, on 04/24/2009, -0/+9Another professions that's popular in American politics is B class actor, combine this with the dominance with law. This actually explain a lot about why it's all about posturing and nothing really actually get done.
- BrutePhysics, on 04/24/2009, -0/+7You know who else started out with politician being a secondary job only to have it become a self enclosed career/class later in its history? Rome.
- DonAlfred, on 04/24/2009, -1/+5money = power = government
- orchidee2, on 04/24/2009, -0/+4Mrs. Merkel studied chemistry. So, is she an expert for "explosive" reactions?
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -0/+4obama is too hip and cool for any engineer to have stood a chance
- zslice, on 04/24/2009, -1/+4just do what you're good at. Even someone who has no discernible talent other than being judgemental (Simon Cowell) can become more powerful than your average lawyer, doctor or economist.
- moofree, on 04/24/2009, -0/+3Should start buying silver too...
And stock! - Wilmark, on 04/24/2009, -2/+5"The law deals with the same sort of questions as politics: what makes a just society; the balance between liberty and security, and so on."
This is the most 'noble' and naive description of what lawyers do (although he was careful not to say that lawyers do this). Although lawyers are thought these principles in practice they are the biggest crooks and the most underhanded profession there is. In my own country this explains why we have such bad politicians. - Pinkertinkle, on 04/24/2009, -0/+3I'd still rather be a doctor or a lawyer than an ***** like simon.
- DirtyVicar, on 04/24/2009, -0/+3No, it's which professions LEAD to power. Power plant road builder!
- Karmashock, on 04/24/2009, -1/+4We should have term limits... I'd also limit each branch of government to ONE member from the same family. So if your uncle is in congress, you can't be in congress... ideally ever. Something needs to be done to break up the nepotism.
- Spetz, on 04/24/2009, -1/+3The Chinese engineers in power appeals to me as an engineer. :) This is likely because engineers have a certain way of thinking that basically reduces to the one "right" or "best" way of doing something according to a given set of physical constraints. This is nice where one does not have to consider others' feelings.
Politicians, and lawyers, do consider these feelings and beliefs which gives them an edge when other people have a say in things in a democracy.
The energy debate annoys me particularly. Ask any electrical engineer with half a brain about what the most realistic short to medium term energy solution, and they'll say nuclear every time. Politicians aren't moving fast enough because they are concerned with public opinion on this crucial issue. An engineer would get things done faster - and be voted out of power. ;) - inactive, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Umm...Did you read the article?
- Czechxican, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Lots of second world countries love technocrats. They are attempting to centralize and strengthen their government and get rid of the blatant political corruption found at lower levels. The assumption then is that leaders with specialized knowledge are the best for shaping policy and less susceptible to corruption since they are only dealing with "facts".That's why you see a lot of engineers in China, academics in Egypt and doctors in Brazil. The problem often is, these people are often unable to institute policies that are actually effective within society. So while you do see industrial increase in places like Brazil and China, they are still very far from catching up to the standard of living in the US.
- Unreal030, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2You mean like the Harvard professor of Constitutional law that raped the Constitution with his supporting of wiretapping, the patriot act, and the lack of immediate and proper investigation and then full prosecution of those in the past administration that violated our supreme law? The vast majority of the people in political positions right now are absolute abominations to their profession and their duty.
You don't have to be a law expert to know the Constitution well or follow it properly, hell look at Ron Paul (yes yes, I apologize for the Ron Paul plug, but you must admit he's an excellent example), he's a Doctor and he knows tons about both the Constitution (he follows it better than both our current and our last president too!) and for all intents and purposes is an economist without a degree, and he can battle it out with the best of both of those areas on an even footing.
All you need is accountability, which is something the American people have failed to uphold and is how corruption started to take place. If these clowns in office knew that if they started doing things in conflict with the supreme law of the land they would get kicked out so fast their head would spin (as it used to be, and as it should be) then 95% of these issues we face in politics today would be non-existent or mitigated and minimized to a point where it wasn't much of a problem. - Palpz, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Ummmm. Yes, because someone has the power to push a button which ends the world, that does make he or she a powerful person.
Perhaps what you were going for was more along the lines of "Just because someone has the power to push a button which ends the world doesn't mean that he or she wields the only valid form of power. Sure, the Pen is mightier than the sword, but who uses a sword now a days?
As for why more people watch movies than watch Presidential debates, that would be because people are stupid. - Logrusmage, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2One problem: The ACTUAL B-list actor who's currently governing California has done a pretty good job. Better than many others. He's actually mildly restrained their retarded state legislature.
- SpoonMSU, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2law == power == government
- SpoonMSU, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2But Rome collapsed epical... OHHHH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!
- eramos, on 04/24/2009, -1/+3We need more regular professions in politics and fewer law/business crooks.
- eramos, on 04/24/2009, -1/+3Yes, they respect it so well now that it would be a travesty not to have them around. And of course nobody else knows anything about the Constitution except lawyers (many of whom's only exposure to it was a one semester beginner's course in the first year of law school).
But yeah, you're right. Germany is crumbling because they elected a scientist instead of an engineer. Whew, good thing we avoided that fate and got a person who knows the "laws on the books" (which he somehow learned in an MBA program). Good ol' W.
But nah, you're right. The only thing you need to know to make laws is other laws. Thank god knowledge of science/technology isn't important to government, or we might have stupid drug and internet laws being passed. WHEW. Dodged that bullet. Thank god for lawyers. - Wilmark, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1I think we run the risk of tarring the brush with the lawyers. Its true that there are ethical lawyers but they are just in a very small minority. Have you ever heard of a respectable lawyer joke. Sorry but Lawyers are SCUM (the majority of them) and they are an impediment to the principle of fairness, law and justice. You cant generalize a profession buy just a minority.
- Czechxican, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Certainly is the case of the robber barons in Russia. All they did was loot the state owned industries after U.S.S.R collapsed, privatize them and voila! instant monopoly on oil, gas, steel, and mineral extraction.
- 0Gravitas, on 04/24/2009, -1/+2There was only a cursory mention of the prevalence of criminals at the head of most under-developed countries, where the general polling population is almost politically castrated. Criminals tend to be rich and posses the connections to promote their agendas more aggressively and completely than the more law abiding types. They usually run under the guise of business men and are mostly successful in attaining power because of deficient systems of governance in those countries. After a 'success', the system is usually weakened further which opens it up for further exploitation from similar types.
- vili89, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Really I had wondered about this thing many times and every time I found different answers. Everything is up to the person you are talking about. You opinion is quite good, but actually it always depends.
- 8FoldPath, on 04/24/2009, -1/+2Having spent the better part of a decade working closely around lawyers, I'd have to agree. If you wonder why there has been such a rollback in morality in the United States, look to the legal profession. I've never seen so many self-centered degenerates anywhere else, including the business sector.
I can't wait for the next opportunity to leave the legal field. ***** those people. - inactive, on 04/24/2009, -3/+4Money is power. Professions in Wall Street will most likely lead to power. Higher chance if you're from an ivy league.
- Unrefined, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Just to be on the safe side I went ahead and duck taped my pen to a sword...
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -1/+2You obviously do not understand law then
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Probably not engineering... :(
- mparker21311, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1government = corrupt
- MatthewDuke, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1I work with a lot of attorneys and find them to be generally honest. They are all type-A personalities, hard workers, and very driven. When one goes astray, they still have the type-A personality, so that might explain why they are seen as more morally corrupt. It's just that they are applying their hard work ethic to morally questionable things which results in god knows what.
It's just like comic books. The garbage man with a middle school education doesn't turn bad and become a super-criminal. It's always the geniuses who cause the real damage. - Unreal030, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1The only reason he got so big is because he says the ***** no one else has the balls to say, I find the vast majority of the time (in regards to the show's he is a judge on, not necessarily everyday things) he is correct. If the other judges around him on every show he is on were actually decent and didn't feed the "I'm nice, so I won't tell you how much your singing really sucked" ***** he would be nowhere. It certainly helps that its accentuated by his accent and his witty one-liners. He might be a dick but he is a hell of a better judge than the rest of the clowns at his table.
- stonebear, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1The Bush crime family in the United States is a good example too.
- kernel16, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1More reasons why engineering sucks, if anyone is in engineering major, GTFO now. Overworked, underpaid, and unappreciated. Getting a degree in engineering alone is annoying compared to other fields. Obama says he wants kids to become engineers, ***** that, the best jobs are still in the financial fields, the problems now are temporary, once we get out of this, they'll be on yachts, and we'll still be where we are now. Google "engineering sucks." Become an actuary if you like numbers so much.
- haydesigner, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Oh, trust me... virtually *everyone* worldwide now knows who Darth Cheney is...
- randumbusername, on 04/25/2009, -0/+1and lawyers are more likely to use legalese to get around laws (constitution).
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1As did Thatcher.
*Shudders* - diggeratwork, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1ERTW!
- FredFredrickson, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Which famous (and beautiful) celebrity pledged to have sex with you for a week, before showering you with money and gifts?
A recent study doesn't exactly answer that but it provides a bunch of interesting info. - catxors, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1I found that statement kooky as well. It seems to be true only of constitutional law types. IME, a lot of lawyers spend a lot of time emailing each other about stuff, wrangling over procedural bits, and searching the law books for that one technical argument that will get the case dismissed.
Actually, that statement is kind of a BS explanation of democracy, too. - SpoonMSU, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Unless you live in China.
- SpoonMSU, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Very interesting. U.S. politicians dominated by lawyers. Look how that is turning out for us. On the other hand, China's economy is exploding, yet their politicians are made up mostly by engineers (no comment though on their human rights record). Before you correlation != causation tards respond, I know, I know. It's an interesting trend though.
- Unreal030, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1How dare you call Arnold B-list!!! "I vill crush you!"
- DirtyVicar, on 04/24/2009, -1/+1He who has the gold...
- DonAlfred, on 04/24/2009, -0/+0no.
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