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- DEEZEE, on 10/10/2007, -10/+116Here we go, another case of Florida Nazi cops killing people. That student who was tasered at the Kerry rally should know how lucky he is. Female cops in Florida seem to want to use their weapons...how macho.
Don't these cops have any compassion ? If you can't subdue a woman in a wheelchair that doesn't have a gun, you shouldn't be a cop. It gets down to this, Floridians must like this or they would vote these jerk sheriffs out. Where's the citizen review board? They murdered her. - GorfTron, on 10/10/2007, -4/+99Someone had their TASER set to kill.
- duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -5/+93Push over the chair.
- blorc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+78Just a few things to add... I brought this up today in a forum I frequent because we were discussing the Kerry event taser incident yesterday. I was posting it to show an example of what appeared to be clear taser abuse, but one guy dug (get it? lawl) up a bit more information and proved there is always more to a story than initially meets the eye:
http://www.news4jax.com/news/8980210/detail.html
"Associate Medical Examiner Valerie Rao, who performed the autopsy in Jacksonville last year, said the Taser shocks were a "very small factor" in the death of Delafield, who was obese and had an enlarged heart and was confined to a wheelchair. But the Tasers were a contributing factor, she said."
"Our officers attempted to disarm her ... and family members became involved -- they attempted on several occasions to have her release the knives and hammer," Chief Robert Musco said. "After several minutes the Taser was utilized and the subject was disarmed."
"Musco also said Delafield's family gave the officers permission to use the Taser on the woman."
Seeing as how the family gave permission to taser when they knew about her health conditions, I find it hard to believe they will be faulted. Plus, it demonstrates that the cops had the common sense to ask the family first and that they weren't just going in blazing. - FRANKeB, on 10/10/2007, -2/+58Why don't they just do it like in the movies and blow out the tires?
- obliviousfool, on 10/10/2007, -3/+57What's with the taser happy police these days?
- bagelpirate, on 10/10/2007, -1/+35Epic win
- EvilEngineer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+29Nah, being in a wheelchair in general is enough justification for a Nazi to kill. One of their first actions was to go into the hospitals and kill all of the mentally and physically handicapped.
- Rsardinia, on 10/10/2007, -4/+30honestly she's 56 in a wheel chair. you come from behind grab both her arms have another officer come and take the weapons out of her hands and then you have subdued the woman. And even if she happened to have cut you or bruised you a little, isn't that worth it? Rather than having her die because you couldn't subdue a 56 year old woman in a wheel chair. you said without getting her, yourself or anyone else hurt.....well you definitely should take out the part about getting HER hurt now huh? I'm pretty sure being tazed 10 times and dieing from it is "hurt" in most people's books.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+29Pussy cops can't even take down a wheelchair bound 56 year old w/out taser.
/***** - kern802, on 10/10/2007, -26/+50Welcome to the Police State.
- Dewhead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25Where do you all find this stuff? Its just so timely and pertinent to what happened yesterday. Who would have thought?
- duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -5/+29Dude, she would have to stop swinging in order to wheel her ass towards the next target, right?
- Ndiggnation, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23I read something once that stated that non-lethal weapons were almost more of a danger than guns. Something about those carrying them being more prone to use them than a gun, thinking they're non-lethal.
- budgetguitar, on 10/10/2007, -12/+33Anyone who tazers a person in a wheelchair is a piece of S**t. Beyond that, they are purely a selfish coward. What's going to happen? Is the person going to roll away? It's high time cops started acting like cops and not a bunch of overpaid mall security guards who are more afraid for their own safety than the ordinary citizens surrounding them. What happened to brave cops? Seems like the only ones you hear about are the cowards whos knee jerk reaction to everything ends up with them drawing their guns or their tazers.
- MadKennyP, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18I can't beat that answer. But, how about shoving a stick in her spokes?
- syroncoda, on 10/10/2007, -25/+41this is what a police state looks like
- scabbers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16They need to put "not a torture device" on the box these things come in. When they use them to incapacitate someone who is a danger = okay... but when they sit there tasering them if they don't do doggy tricks at their commands = torture.
- BurnedKirby, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16I agree with Ndiggnation. It seems that the taser is a torture weapon nowadays since the police are merciless with them.
- bigfatpaulie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17"armed with two knives and a hammer"
I'm trying to get my head around this. Did she have three arms? Or some kind of knife & hammer flail? - Hittman6, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16"She had two knives and a hammer. So tell me how YOU would have subdued her without getting her, yourself or anyone else hurt."
It's a good thing she didn't have a banana, raspberries, or a point-ed stick. - AlphaBronco, on 01/25/2009, -15/+28Yep, just one more ***** murder committed by the police to add to tally.
It's going to keep happening until police services are privatized and the balance of power between them and the rest of us is restored. Down with gubmint. - sockpuppets, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Tased and Confused?
- JoshuaH, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Don't tase me, bro!
- Disjunto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12thanks for the extra info. dugg
- psion01, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13I know I shouldn't laugh at that, but I'm a monster dressed in a man's skin, so I did.
- budhaman99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10What ever happened to the use of pepper spray?
- MrClownn, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15FTA:
"Family attorney Rick Alexander said Delafield's death could have been prevented and that there are four things that jump out at him about the case.
"One, she's in a wheelchair. Two, she's schizophrenic. Three, they're using a Taser on a person that's in a wheelchair, and then four is that they tasered her 10 times for a period of like two minutes," Alexander said."
Ouch, that's a pretty damning list. It's so hard to accurately judge something like this; yeah she had a hammer and a knife but she was in a wheelchair. What was the reason for the chair? Totally immobile or used the chair for safety reasons? Sad situation.
Oh and on an aside; can we stop using the "WELCOM3 2 THA P0LEEZ STATE!!!11!!!!" in it's many forms and variations for every article on police? Yeah ***** is ***** up and everything, but the more you use that term when it doesn't really apply, the less it means when used for a real example of a police state. - KevenM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10This reads like the plot for some politically incorrect summer hit movie
- lpmiller, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11you can't be that stupid. It's hard enough getting cops in the low end neighborhoods NOW, I can't imagine how bad it would be if they could set rates.
- dinobot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Reminds me of this other story that was here a couple of months ago http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Man_bursts_into_flames_after_being_shot_by_taser_Then_dies_No_joke
Seriously, where's the common sense? - lostboy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10this is probably the most pertinent piece of information that is not in the main article, digg up parent so people can read blorc's link please!
- budgetguitar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11If duggtodeath can figure out the solution to this problem, why can't the cops? Oh yeah, they're afraid of everything.
- baanzi, on 10/10/2007, -6/+15This is even more egregious given that the lady in the wheelchair was mentally ill. I know for fact that police departments have a list of addresses where mentally ill people live and before they take any action they're supposed to call the mentally ill person's doctor or case manager (if the county has a mental illness department). From reading the article it seems like no one ever bothered to call the doctor or the MHMR case manager.
- psion01, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Well, given that she was armed, I'd say that the police had at least some cause to subdue her without getting bashed on the noggin or stabbed ... but /ten/ times? Every demonstration I've ever seen of a taser shows a big, burly guy getting shot ONCE and dropping to the floor like a sack of squishy tomatoes. Why the other nine times?
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Seriously folks. This is just an out break of police brutaility due to cops being trained to take no risks in subdueing a criminal. This is not a police state.
We still have rights. In a police state the woman's family would not have made it to the press. They would have disappeared. And if the press had been informed they would have been blackmailed out of reporting the story. - TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8That's what cops need! A tickle gun!
- Heaiser, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11As much as I defended the taser use in the Florida case, this does sound way excessive. I could understand using it once to get close and remove the weapons from her, but man... 160 second ride on a taser would be awful. I think tasers are a valuable tool, but they shouldn't be used this excessively (unless there is more to the story... but it would have to be a pretty damn good story to make 160 second taser session ok).
- AlphaBronco, on 01/25/2009, -0/+7It's already happening. Wealthier neighborhoods hire their own police services.
In a free society where the people are not disarmed by the government, individuals always have the option of arming themselves and providing for their own self-defense. Just like they have the option of brewing their own beer, or mowing their own lawn.
The reason cops won't get into poor neighborhoods is because most of them are inherently ***** to begin with, and only like to patrol areas where they have an easier and more profitable time bullying docile victims around for victimless crimes, and relieving them of their cash and freedom.
The police are hated in the poorer minority communities for good reason, and besides the poor neighborhoods are usually controlled by violent street gangs who derive most of their income from drug sales.
Of course this is all thanks to the government price support for organized crime, aka "the war on drugs" - Heaiser, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Until someone steals something from you and you go crying to them for help. Not all cops are bad, and I have NO respect for anyone that is this close minded.
- MackDiesel2010, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8All things aside from the topic issue, your statement about a list of addresses of the mentally ill for the police is patently false.
- streetlightpoet, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Yep, Blackwater in the US, that's what we need :/
- Authustian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Well hell, if they paid our police half, or even a third what they paid blackwater, there'd be a lot more people signing up for police work, and they'd be able to pick people with fewer superiority complexes....
- blitzkriegpunk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Jesus, I ***** laughed. Just picture that *****.
- floridiot2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I thought they were called "Less Lethal"..
- RainNIU, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You'd think that after the recent incident that cops would think twice before using a taser...especially in the same state. Wow.
- monkeyboy7706, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Obviously she didn't drop to the floor.
Quite understandable really as she was in a wheelchair. - ZenMojo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The question few people seem to be asking is, "What did they do after they used the taser on her the first time?" Whatever happened to handcuffs?
- jdaniel284, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7It makes me sad to see all these brutality apologists bleat on and on about the semantics of a police state. "No, in a police state they execute you in the back of the head", "No, in a police state they execute you in secret", "No, North Korea is a worse police state than the United States, therefore the US is not a police state".
Go in peace, apologists. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were my countrymen. - useful, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6the fire service where I used to live was privatized and they were better in every way. They had a better response time, offered more services and they were cheaper than the city service because we were outside the limits and avoided a sales tax. They even came to your house if you weren't a customer and sent you a bill.
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