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- joestump, on 10/12/2007, -35/+164@killinger777 I don't think they're trying to say that Syria doesn't support terrorism. I think they're trying to point out that CNN isn't being fair given the fact that a.) there was a GOP delegation in Syria mere weeks before Palosi (that received zero press) and b.) the US government et al supports terrorism, dictators, fascism, etc. the world around via our "allies" (China, Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc, etc).
- elocuXion, on 10/12/2007, -101/+227Disgraceful, utterly abhorrent of CNN to do this. Juvenile at best.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -37/+96"Pelosi went to promote her own agenda, made up ***** about Israel, contributed to the oppression of women by walking around with a head scarf on (nothing wrong with wearing it in a mosque that is respect, but if a country is forcing or "strongly encouraging" women to wear one in public it does them a diservice when a supposedly strong independent women bows down to that "encouragement"), and generally showed support to Syria over the wishes of the US govt."
If you go to your friend's house and they have a rule about not wearing shoes in the house, you either take them off or you get out. She is a GUEST in their country, so she should comply, or she can leave. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -45/+103This screenshot was taken out of context from a segment on "Anderson Cooper 360", which is anything but a conservative show. Leave it to a politically-biased media watchdog like "crooksandliars" to purposefully avoid showing the full context of why the image was shown, or what the commentary accompanying it was.
Also, as pointed out by others, the "GOP delegation" is a ridiculous name for what actually happened: the Federal Government sent a contingent of politicians and diplomats to promote the current administration's policies in Syria. Pelosi's visit had no backing of the administration and was entirely self-serving. - catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -15/+61In the eyes of a liberal, all news is conservative. In the eyes of a conservative, all news is liberal.
Its funny to watch you guys bicker back and forth when the truth is plainly obvious. You are all just polarized and its always a matter of "us and them" with everything. You choose your hill to die on and eventually attack the other "side" just for the sake of attacking them.
You eventually lose sight of what made you choose your side in the first place, but by then it doesn't matter. You grow old, stubborn, grumpy, and full of anger, eventually move down to Florida and die of cancer. Ah, the beautiful circle of life. - Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -27/+67@ Bluteau
"HOUSE SPEAKER Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) offered an excellent demonstration yesterday of why members of Congress should not attempt to supplant the secretary of state when traveling abroad. After a meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad in Damascus, Ms. Pelosi announced that she had delivered a message from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that "Israel was ready to engage in peace talks" with Syria. What's more, she added, Mr. Assad was ready to "resume the peace process" as well. Having announced this seeming diplomatic breakthrough, Ms. Pelosi suggested that her Kissingerian shuttle diplomacy was just getting started. "We expressed our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between Israel and Syria," she said.
Only one problem: The Israeli prime minister entrusted Ms. Pelosi with no such message. "What was communicated to the U.S. House Speaker does not contain any change in the policies of Israel," said a statement quickly issued by the prime minister's office. In fact, Mr. Olmert told Ms. Pelosi that "a number of Senate and House members who recently visited Damascus received the impression that despite the declarations of Bashar Assad, there is no change in the position of his country regarding a possible peace process with Israel." In other words, Ms. Pelosi not only misrepresented Israel's position but was virtually alone in failing to discern that Mr. Assad's words were mere propaganda." - Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -22/+55 @ schroedinger
http://www.reformsyria.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=282&Itemid=66
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was seen roaming the streets of Damascus flaunting a Hijab. The Hijab worn by women across the Muslim world has come to symbolize either one of three things: 1) a symbol that men control women by forcing piety, or 2) a return to religiosity because of oppressive rulers, or 3) a fashion statement. If you ask any expert on the Middle East, you would get any one of three answers. The ones who usually claim it is a fashion statement are the political rulers who usually oppress people in general. A Hijab is NOT a confirmation of the rights of women in the Middle East but rather a symbol of their suppression.
As a Muslim, I fully understand respect of our religion by visiting US officials and I applaud that respect. Had Speaker Pelosi worn the Hijab inside a Mosque, this would have indicated respect but for Pelosi to wear it on the streets of Damascus all the while she is sitting with the self-imposed Baschar al-Assad who has come to symbolize oppression and one of the reasons why women are forced to wear the Hijab as they turn to religion to express their freedom is a statement of submittal not only to oppression but also to lack of women's rights in the Middle East. Pelosi just reversed the work of the Syrian civil society and those who aspire for women's freedom in the Muslim countries many years back with her visual statement. Her lack of experience of the Middle East is showing.
Assad could not have been happier because Syrian women, seeing a US official confirming what their husbands, the Imams in the Mosques tell them, and the society at large imposes on them through peer pressure will see in her wearing a Hijab as a confirmation of the societal pressures they are constantly under. No one will ever know how many women took the Hijab on after seeing Pelosi wearing it. The damage Speaker Pelosi is causing with her visit to Syria will be felt for many years to come. - sid0, on 10/12/2007, -22/+48@Johnboi: You idiot, they are extremists and terrorists, what more do you need to understand? I live in a city which last week had one of the worst Shia-Sunni riots in recent history. Every riot in my country (India) has had something to do with the Muslims. Islam is simply the most violent religion on earth. (I'm not saying that all Muslims are violent, but a disproportionate number are.)
- Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -27/+52@ Bluteau
Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) offered an excellent demonstration yesterday of why members of Congress should not attempt to supplant the secretary of state when traveling abroad. After a meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad in Damascus, Ms. Pelosi announced that she had delivered a message from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that "Israel was ready to engage in peace talks" with Syria. What's more, she added, Mr. Assad was ready to "resume the peace process" as well. Having announced this seeming diplomatic breakthrough, Ms. Pelosi suggested that her Kissingerian shuttle diplomacy was just getting started. "We expressed our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between Israel and Syria," she said.
Only one problem: The Israeli prime minister entrusted Ms. Pelosi with no such message. "What was communicated to the U.S. House Speaker does not contain any change in the policies of Israel," said a statement quickly issued by the prime minister's office. In fact, Mr. Olmert told Ms. Pelosi that "a number of Senate and House members who recently visited Damascus received the impression that despite the declarations of Bashar Assad, there is no change in the position of his country regarding a possible peace process with Israel." In other words, Ms. Pelosi not only misrepresented Israel's position but was virtually alone in failing to discern that Mr. Assad's words were mere propaganda.
@ Schrodinger
If your neighbor beat his wife would it be ok to beat yours if you are in his house?
there would be nothing wrong with wearing a head scarve in a Mosque, but when women are struggling to be allowed to go in public without one and a supposedly "strong independent western" women complies it hurts their struggle.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040402306.html - TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -11/+34no no no....the media isn't liberal at all......
doctored photos (reuters)
false reports (CBS)
etc.... - the6thReplicant, on 10/12/2007, -23/+45Gee and with all this liberal media around you'll think they have something like "Speaker and Syria making fluffy bunnies available for all".
Ohh, that's right, the mainstream media *isn't* liberal but I guess some diggers are too blind to see that since she's wearing one of those funny things around her head and we can't go around other people's countries respecting their culture : we're Americans for ***** sake. - sid0, on 10/12/2007, -12/+33Wow dude, I'll block anyone who compares Bush to Hitler. Bush is no angel, but comparing him to Hitler shows what your intelligence and level of understanding of history is.
- furryplanet, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23It's not just CNN... It's all mainstream media! They are all controlled by big business.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -21/+37Pelosi made up ***** about Israel?
What did she say? - StarkDigging, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18@liam76
"The GOP delegation went with [Bush's] blessing.."
Just FYI, White House spokesperson Dana Perino said the Bush administration was "unhappy" that three Republican congressmen visited Syria. Her exact words were, "Our policy and our feelings apply to everybody." That's a far cry from Bush's blessing.
Just to reiterate the White House's position on Syria:
"The more U.S. officials go there and try to talk with them, the less [Syria] feels the pressure to change. And so we haven't seen change in many years, and we think that the best thing to do is to keep them isolated, to show that they're isolated, and that their behavior is unacceptable." - combustion8, on 10/12/2007, -10/+23people still watch CNN?? figured it was just on for ted's tax purposes.
- digg5, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/revco2k2/tp%20images/obamacnn.jpg
- klup, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22Although Crooks and Liars is extremely biased their point is valid is this case. Why is Syria an 'evil' country, and why isn't Saudi-Arabia or Pakistan?
- YoDiggity2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I just threw up a little bit in my mouth...
- br0ck, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20Where were you to protect us when Laura Bush and Condoleeza Rice recently visited Syria and wore the Hijab?
- missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19Come on. It's not too much to ask that someone respect the culture of a place he's visiting, especially when entering a holy place.
- digg5, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16http://www.kein-plan.de/bitte-ziehen-sie-durch/pics/BinLaden_-_Dead_or_Alive.jpg
http://wheresmysocks.net/images/cnn.jpg - Kallius, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14CNN should stick to things it knows how to do and has practised a lot recently. Like coverage of the late Anna Nicole Smith.
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20In Saudi Arabia it is customary to hold hands with other men, which Bush happily does every time he meets with their leader.
- wallcloud111, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19It seems like the only no-spin news program is The Daily Show lol.... or Colbert Report
- Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -13/+23It is a sign of respect to wear it in a Mosque.
in a country where women are struggling NOT to wear it it is an insult to them to put it on to just walk around.
There is no noise about the republican delegation because ti was blessed by the Head of State for the US, the President. Pelosi has no business going there in an official capacity at all without the blessing f the president. - RickiBerlin, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Really, it isn't a hijab, just a Hermes scarf. Wearing it in a mosque is being respectful. Same as a proper lady wouldn't enter a Catholic church w/o a hat.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Let us know when you get out of freshman year of college and realize that Che was a murderous thug.
- Navicerts, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15She didn't wear the head scarf while meeting with assad, it's just cnn propaganda....
source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/05/world/main2650686.shtml - Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14She did wear it while walking around in public.
Nobody would make a peep if she jus wore it in a Mosque. - jpop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11You're just finding this out now Jason? They've been doing this for years. You also forgot the "pandering and covering for dictators part" too. After all, they're the ones that admitted to covering up Sadam's atrocities and passing on his propaganda so they could stay in country.
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17If she chose to cover her head out of respect, or for whatever reason, it's her choice, so who cares? I know why you're attempting to twist an act of respect into an act of submission, but it's not working.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@jimgress
of course you're gettin buried, you add nothing intelligent to the conversation at hand. you're just being an idiot. - geoff1210, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I agree, she is the SPEAKER of the house. she is not the president, nor the vice president, nor the secretary of state. She should be allowed to meet with leaders (listen to them), but she is not to conduct diplomacy, it is not her place.
She seems to be doing it just to piss Bush off, and while i really don't mind her doing that, she should be passing bills that piss him off, not conducting diplomacy. - MaxPowers2007, on 10/12/2007, -14/+23Pelosi is a SHILF: Speaker of the House I'd Like to...
- Ninja337, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18Musharaff is not a bad guy. He is working towards solving the Kashmir dispute, he helps defeat terrorist networks operating in the region, wrote a good book, and he appeared on the Daily Show. He's a really progressive guy, the only reason American Democrats don't like him is because he talks to Bush.
- MBX1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8i hate the mainstream-media, i hate corrupt politicians
- rnguyen, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14"What ever happened to women's rights? That gets tossed out the window just as..."
Did you fail history? Talk about ignorant.. - dleach, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11errr... it was reported and Isreal felt the need to respond to clarify their position ...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15right wingers not only talk to terrorist leaders, they prop them up. and have for years. from chile to vietnam to iraq to saudi arabia.
- miamilaw, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14The point of the article - besides showing how "liberal" CNN is - is that CNN made no mention of the THREE republican congressman who met with Syria's President Bashar Assad last Sunday before Pelosi did. In fact, the three GOP congressmen met with Assad and other Syrian leaders. Honestly, ask any joe shmoe on the street in any american city now and all they would know is that "Pelosi is talking with the terrorists!" Not to mention that, as far as I know, Bushy did not peep one single word about his fellow republicans traveling to "terrorist harboring" country.
God help our country.
"Three Republican congressmen who parted with President Bush by meeting with Syrian leaders said Wednesday it is important to maintain a dialogue with a country the White House says sponsors terrorism... 'I don't care what the administration says on this. You've got to do what you think is in the best interest of your country," said Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va. "I want us to be successful in Iraq. I want us to clamp down on Hezbollah.'"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040402215.html (Associate Press)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,263105,00.html (Associated Press) - webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Even the BBC has succumbed. Anyone hear the nationality of the ship that was boarded recently? Not through the BBC you won't... Or about the firefight in Basra around an "Iranian embassy" in the last week? Again, nothing from the BBC. Al Jazeera and Xinhua respectively.
- sid0, on 10/12/2007, -18/+24"Herr Bush" implies that you are equating Bush with Hitler, which further implies that you are blocked.
- Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12 @ Bluteau
Please read that whole story. It took place before the meeting from Syria and those words came from the mouth of an Israeli spokesperson. Then look for a news article after the meeting and see what the Pelosi camp said she conveyed. They are two completely different things. - ManHammer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Since when does the Speaker of the House conduct foreign policy?
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16As sad as people who think FOX is real news, as well.
- swrostmore, on 10/12/2007, -16/+21why is there no coverage of the Republican delegation to Syria? Where is the outrage? I guarantee if there was nobody in the Republican delegation wearing a Hajib, its only because they didn't include any women. Its a sign of respect, not submission, and Pelosi was even brave enough to speak out for women's rights in politics during her trip.
- caution, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7All politics aside, if that is possible.
She's second in the line to the presidency, therefore anything to be made of her visit to Syria (or anywhere) is amplified and under more scrutiny than any run of the mill congressman.
I don't agree with the context of her visit. I think the elected officials from both sides need to get on the same sheet of music stateside, then go visiting folks.
It looks like our own house is out of order on the world stage.
In this case, the middle-east is having fun with the whole Pelosi-Syria, Bush-veto dynamic. - punx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The last time I checked, I haven't seen any evangelical Christians strapping bombs to themselves and blowing people up, or hijacking airplanes, have you hetman?
- brogrimm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Was Pelosi meeting with a terrorist sponsoring state? Yes. Did she go with approval? No. Was she in violation of the Logan Act? Yes.
"Nancy Pelosi has stated her intent to influence Syria, thereby crossing the line and acting outside her authority, portraying herself in a role of speaking on behalf of the United States."
CNN in a rare less-than-liberal incident was correct in their graphic showing Pelosi. Wow. -
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