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- inactive, on 01/04/2009, -1/+20Wow she's beautiful!
- lolwaffle, on 01/04/2009, -4/+22And now that Israel attacked and killed a few hundred civilians in one week, now it's Palestine's turn to defend itself. Don't you get it? There are no good guys.
- Sleeper4amoment, on 01/04/2009, -0/+11I have never heard this Queen, but I believe she and Queen Noir in the last two video's that I watched should receive more air time. The feminine voice cuts through prejudices that have been formed over the years of hard lines and munipulated media.
- diggafrica, on 01/04/2009, -14/+25During the American Revolutionary War, George Washington was regarded by the British as a terrorist, yet Americans now revere him as the "Father of Our Country". Similarly, after decades of continued subjugation by Israel, the Palestinians have concluded that the "peace process" is a charade, and in their desperation, have turned to what they regard as their own freedom fighters: Hamas. And, elected democratically, much as the Americans chose George Washington to be our first President.
- amous, on 01/04/2009, -7/+16awesome video
- xeno439, on 01/05/2009, -1/+10And the Americans stood a chance against the British. The people of Gaza have no chance.
- Stormwern, on 01/04/2009, -2/+11So does Palestine.
- whazdown, on 01/05/2009, -0/+9Too long, sorry.
- FasterGun, on 01/05/2009, -0/+8Because there is no law against collateral damage large numbers of civilian deaths is admissible? What the ***** is wrong with you?
- martalli, on 01/04/2009, -2/+10Israeli citizens are not killed and wounded with every Palestinian rocket. Almost all of them land ineffectually without loss of life and limb. According to globalsecurity.org, 3,278 rockets and mortar shells from Gaza landed in Israel in 2008.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/ ... - Napiertt, on 01/04/2009, -5/+12Fully agree. However I think their response is disproportionate, and a huge strategic mistake. They are undermining their support in their democratic allies, and making it much harder for moderate Arabs to engage them, as well as radicalizing another generation.
It seems to be an intractable problem, I hope for all the peoples involved that a lasting solution can be found. I'm not optimistic however. - inactive, on 01/05/2009, -1/+8She is beutiful in heart too.
- Waiting2awake, on 01/05/2009, -1/+7It has been my understanding that it has been Israel and the US banging the drums against Iran - not the other way around. Now whether they get involved with the Israeli and Hamas crimes, I doubt it, they seem to have been fairly internationally smart.
- dustbowl, on 01/05/2009, -7/+13dugg for Palestinians.
FIGHT THE POWER - Napiertt, on 01/05/2009, -0/+5@xeno:
I disagree with your analogy. If you punch a guy in a bar and he punches you back and knocks you out, that's legal and proper. He responded to a threat with proportionate force. If he pulls out a gun and shoots you, assuming you're much smaller than he is, and not a great physical threat, that will be a disproportionate response.
I think a more appropriate, proportionate response would have been to do what the U.S is doing in the Pakistani tribal areas, using drones to target individuals and selected targets and take them out. Hopefully with such a response, they would have been able to take out launchers and personnel without the huge collateral damage, physical, diplomatic and otherwise.
Of course this would not necessarily have stopped the strikes, but neither would the current operation in all likelihood. It may have put enough pressure on Hamas that they agreed to a new truce. But we will never know.
The current action has so inflamed passions that is seems a short term ceasefire is unlikely, and will make a longer term solution much more difficult, in my opinion.
There is no moral equivalence here, and clearly Hamas is at fault. Having said so however, I believe the Israeli action is still disproportionate, wrong, and a strategic blunder in the longer term. - algaeturd, on 01/05/2009, -5/+10But...but...here in the United States, we're taught to believe that Israel is always right.
This is one of the things I seriously disagree with most Digg users on. They have no problems realizing that the U.S invaded Iraq for no reason and will admit as much. But try to convince them that Israel has been the agressors in the latest attacks and that they're perpetuating the violence is futile to the average digger. They neither care nor realize the facts. They have something in their head and they won't hear otherwise, regardless of the facts. - oldhick, on 01/05/2009, -0/+5@actually guys, I think we were just trying to clear up the rhetoric and have an honest discussion. Bagio54 said innocent Israelis were killed all the time by these rockets. That is false. You don't have to do anything but debate the issues fairly. What's the problem with that?
- jamdogg, on 01/05/2009, -0/+5@Shabrainiac: It sounds like you are enjoying this demonic death-orgy. You cease to be a "good guy" when you attack your enemy by destroying his human shield.
True good guys would find another way. - oldhick, on 01/05/2009, -0/+4Right, those the ONLY targets being hit. There are no civilian or non-Hamas casualties at all.
- AQMessiah, on 01/05/2009, -0/+4that quote has been proven inaccurate a long time ago.
- m3mn0n, on 01/05/2009, -2/+6Yeah, I have to bury you for equating war to a sports game.
- GRANDPAMUNSTER, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3I agree with lolwaffle, killing will lead to more killing which will lead to more killing. Even if this stops in the next few days or weeks, it will start all over again in a few years. Both sides will continue feuding now until the end of time.
- Waiting2awake, on 01/05/2009, -0/+3I have read some of those stories but wasn't that the one where they claimed the Iranian leader said to wipe Israel off the wipe, was really just a mistranslation? Not sure how true that is, as anything regarding Israel seems to devolve into a shouting match of "DID TOO", "DID NOT" so who knows. Both sides seem to have their points...
I think(hope?) that people are more or less pragmatic in life. Iran has nothing to gain from an escalated war with Israel that would surely include the US. However, if they continue to let Hamas pester and annoy Israel, Israel might do something insanely stupid like invade Gaza for the world to see and, in theory, the people will see Israel the way they see her. Which, if Israel acts like the first world, civilized, nation it is supposed to be and withdrawal for a peace deal does a double whammy to ran. Hamas done, Israel looking pretty.. - Hetman, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2I say we cut off aid to Isreal and stop taking sides. As of right now they are fullly capable of taking on hammas. They have far superior techonology and an economy that should be able to support itself through out a war.
- Zippo, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2All this ***** going on there is just further proof that religion should have no place in government. In most countries these people would just shut up and live next door to each other... But noooo... they both believe they've got some divine right to the land no one else belongs there...
- Raphae1, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2http://digg.com/politics/Before_Airstrikes_Hamas_O ...
- whazdown, on 01/05/2009, -1/+3I wish our Queen wasn't so damn old.
- fakekevinrose, on 01/05/2009, -1/+3Really now? are you really posting The Onion articles to prove your point?
- edstate, on 01/04/2009, -2/+4And other countries have the right to level economic sanctions against that country if they don't agree w/ the people's choice of leadership.
- ippey, on 01/05/2009, -1/+3George Washington didn't release a formal charter stating that Britain should be completely destroyed and replaced with American leadership. He never led incursions into Britain, or fired cannons at Britain's mainland, he just wanted America to be left alone.
Hamas fires rockets all the time at Israel, breaks ceasefire agreements, and hides their military operations in and around unarmed civilians to try to detour Israel from attacking them in retaliation. They aren't happy with the land they've been giving, and make efforts to attack Israel continuously and indiscriminately.
I'm for Palestine but against Hamas. Israel has the right to protect itself from this terrorist group until they calm themselves down, disarm, and make peace. - m3mn0n, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2Yeah, too bad Canada doesn't have a QILF
- Waiting2awake, on 01/05/2009, -1/+3xeno - but Gaza is hardly a full country. I see your point and I agree with the right to defend yourself, so lets take your analogy and see what we can find out...
You walk into a bar and pick a fight with the biggest guy. You punch him a few times that he mistakes for pesky flies, you kick him a few times that doesn't even leave a mark and he decides enough is enough... We are all good right there. He has the right to defend himself and you were clearly the jerk...
So you guys go out side and with the first shot you are in la-la land, the second shot sends you collapsing into a pool of your own blood. You struggle to get up, but against the well nourished, well feed, completely in shape big guy, your poverty strained, emasculated body is unable to push the guy off of you.
Now this is where I think we differ. IMO the big guy has a moral and ethical obligation to stop the fight - it is over, he has defended himself.
It appears that you are suggesting that the guy really has the right to continue beating on you despite the fight effectively not being a fight, more of a trouncing. Is that what you are saying?
I'm just trying to understand your side of this. - Waiting2awake, on 01/05/2009, -1/+2w3br - ever consider if the man never locked the person into the cellar in the first place the reason for throwing rocks would be so much lessened?
I'm just saying. If I lock you into your home, then not allow food, water or medicine - you would fight me. You'd have to or die. When you did - you wouldn't be acting - you would be reacting. - fakekevinrose, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1A fine wine
- xeno439, on 01/05/2009, -2/+3I'm sorry, but the disproportionate arguement is a weak one. If (insert weaker country) were to bombard (insert stronger country) with periodic missiles, would (stronger country) simply reply in kind with proportionate missiles? Or would it attempt to quell the violence with disproportionate violence? I think we all know the answer to that one. Let's look at this another way.
If I go into a bar and find the biggest looking dude there and call him a bitch and punch him in the face, not once but three times, is he supposed to just sit there and punch me back (mind you he has to hold back because my punches are weaker than his) proportionately? Logic dictates that he will hit me hard, hit me fast in order that I decide logically that I can't win. Of course, Hamas has no logic, so this point is not going to win over any members of that organization. I do hope that all those people protesting Isreal in the streets of the world's cities take a good look at this argument and condemn Hamas as much as Israel. Otherwise, I'm on my way to find the biggest guy in a bar and win the world's sympathy. - poprocksandsoda, on 01/05/2009, -14/+15Can someone show me in the story where it says that Hamas has agreed to stop randomly sending rockets into Israel? For some reason, I can't find that in the story. Until I can, I think Israel should destroy any building that houses rocket launchers ... and I mean any building.
- Fu22yLojik, on 01/05/2009, -2/+3The thing is, this issue is scarier than Israel vs. Palestine. THe issue is that this sparks up serious tension against Israel in an area surrounded by a world that is not at all sympathetic to thier rocketing. This has the potential to become a much bigger war. I hope that we are not fighting over a supposed "holy" patch of land after it is a holy crater.What a stupid thing to fight over.
- xb00t, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1Just to put it out there because we are all thinking it - Queen Rania is hot. Thank you, that is all.
- mcnees287, on 01/05/2009, -1/+2Zion will fall
- oldhick, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1Palestinians are not all Hamas. Hamas is a minority. There are also minority groups of Jewish people in Israel that attack, steal homes from, and kill Palestinians. You can't punish an entire group of people for the actions of a minority group.
- w3ber, on 01/05/2009, -3/+3@Shabrainiac
try this
... a man locked into your cellar throws rocks at you through a little window... nevertheless he aims for your head... and it can be fatal for you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZsvUur5t7M&fea ... - nigelbc, on 01/05/2009, -2/+2this is a powderkeg waiting to explode! when is iran going to step in? they have been looking for any reason to use agression against israel, and with american resources stretched paper thin not to mention 90% of the world hates american guts it is a very ugly situation. at the same time israel cannot just sit idle while absorbing rocket attacks.. what a conundrum
- aeroboar, on 01/06/2009, -1/+1Do you know of a better way to keep track who is winning?
IDF - 555
Hamas - 4 - foolishwolf, on 01/05/2009, -1/+1agreed
- nigelbc, on 01/05/2009, -3/+3i have just head several stories related to iranian leader wanting to wipe israel off the face of the earth, however i think you may be correct in they are more for voicing their opinions that acting out... ahmedinejad has a lot to gain by the outcome of the fighting, and is garnering political support and popular respect through the region after condemning the attack
- edstate, on 01/04/2009, -4/+4Look. However we *should* have established Israel, we're pretty much stuck w/ what we've got. Too much of this "debate" (read: bloodshed) is really about some people thinking we made a Global "mistake" back in '47, and other people thinking we didn't. When in fact there is a vibrant, economically stable country called Israel in the middle of a torrid, economically unstable region called the Middle East.
Sux. - Ghetro, on 01/05/2009, -2/+1Not "facts" - any objective accounting of facts would include Hamas' constant calls for the annihilation of Israel and Jewish people everywhere, not to mention the constant rockets.
Buried to preserve the correct accounting of facts. - oboredone, on 01/05/2009, -3/+0Where the ***** is her bedsheet outfit??
Thats a stoning. - mcnees287, on 01/05/2009, -2/+0nice rack too
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