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- ozel01, on 11/15/2008, -4/+33If that UN Convention is ratified, it would strip parental rights from every parent, not just home schoolers.
- JerichoSam, on 11/15/2008, -4/+28FTA: "Should the UN Convention be ratified, it would impose the United Nation's view of children's rights on America. Under the U.S. Constitution, treaties become the Supreme Law of the land, taking precedent over state laws and state supreme court decisions."
As ozel01 pointed out, this is not just about homeschooling.
This UN convention would be disastrous for parental rights. Why would the U.S. willingly give up its sovereignty? Why would we undermine our own Constitution? Wouldn't that be ... un-American? - inactive, on 11/15/2008, -5/+28Our government must be stopped. We must force them to stop, or we will lose the opportunity.
- Janinco, on 11/15/2008, -4/+27I home schooled my three kids and I encourage ALL parents to get your kids OUT of public schools.
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -4/+26It's sad, because for the most part parents have stopped parenting. They are unwittingly relinquishing their rights as a parent to Big Brother. Public school is a nightmare, private school is astronomically expensive, but home-schooling kids is ideal. The more pro-active parents can be and the less active institutions are allowed to be, the further our society will progress. Don't let your kids be taught about sex before they've reached puberty, don't allow them to be indoctrinated into a morally apathetic posture. Fight back parents, fight with all your heart. Your child is a piece of you, and the only hope for turning this country around.
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -6/+27Our borders are open. Economic risk is being socialized. The economy is being driven into the ground. Our leaders refuse to produce energy with which to fuel the wheels of society. Half of our people have no allegiance to the constitution, nor any acknowledgment of why they should. Electoral fraud, campaign finance fraud, and a media complicit with the Leftist cause won the latest election. Our federal government is giving every sign that it intends to become increasingly intrusive into our lives. It is now signaling that many of our constitutional rights may be subjugated to edicts by the UN under the auspice of "treaties", from firearms, to taxation without representation, to mandatory servitude, and now, to the very rights we have been given by our creator to raise our children as we see fit.
What more do we need people? What else do we have to see before we take to the streets? What is the final straw? It seems to me that government will actually have to take our rights before we will be willing to fight to keep them. - inactive, on 11/15/2008, -1/+21I think the second Great Depression that is fast encroaching upon us will be the final straw. Then people will truly know what it's like to suffer. *Sigh, maybe that's what we need.
- Janinco, on 11/15/2008, -4/+22Well, Obama did promise change!
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -1/+18I can say with near certainty, that you probably have great kids :-).
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -4/+20This is me, reminding you- that according to the Constitution of the United States of America: it is ILLEGAL for us to have ANY TREATY WITH THE UNITED NATIONS, as they are not a country.
(some of you will have to pick-up your pitchforks)
The rest of us are gonna do, what the Federal Government trained-us for, and our beloved teachers taught-us not so long ago.
REMEMBER WHERE YOU COME FROM. - PuterPrsn, on 11/15/2008, -1/+16Because Obama wants the "one world order" with the UN at the helm. I don't think he, or the DNC, cares particularly if that takes the US down a peg or two - after all, we are a greedy, selfish lot according to them.
- PuterPrsn, on 11/15/2008, -4/+18I homeschooled until my mother died. At that point, I didn't have an adult to stay at home (I have to work, of course) with my remaining school-age child. I would do it again in a second. When my youngest had to start public school, it was three years before the school caught up with what she had been learning already. Home school rocks! Everything is a learning experience, and vacations become much more fun and educational to boot. We had a ball! I really, really wish I could still homeschool!
Do anything it takes to retain that right and privilege of homeschooling! - Striker101, on 11/15/2008, -4/+17This opens up the larger can of worms, the entire "public education" brainwashing system.
- Striker101, on 11/15/2008, -0/+11"It seems to me that government will actually have to take our rights before we will be willing to fight to keep them."
?? Our rights are gone already. Freedom is an absolute, not a chipped, cracked and broken pottery. - inactive, on 11/15/2008, -1/+11I read your position regarding this topic on another thread Striker, and your reasoning is very compelling indeed.
Airtight, in fact. - inactive, on 11/15/2008, -3/+12My daughter is homeschooling her 8 children, she is also a certified teacher. I applaud her for this as it takes time, patience and lots of love. The children are very well behaved and work together as a family, which does this grandma's heart good. The children are well educated and also learn from daily experiences which include their individual chores working at their farm.
This is what my daughter said to me today in an email: "I’d much rather sit and read a book with my children than just give them stuff. I like to give gifts too but… I love to watch them walk to the barn to do a chore only to get waylaid by a dog to play with, leaves to jump in or a cat to pick up and carry along with the bucket of slop going to the pigs! I feel like I live the life of the cartoon Family Circle…with children there is hardly ever a straight path to anywhere, but I love it. - Gondring, on 11/15/2008, -1/+8I bet your kids are awesome! ;-)
- alanhlake, on 11/15/2008, -4/+10What do you want, secession or slavery?
http://www.lakeinfoworks.com/blog/politics/christi ... - JerichoSam, on 11/15/2008, -1/+4One NJ state senator has already introduced legislation based on the state's "affirmative obligation to recognize and protect the rights
of children through the articulation of a clear and specific bill of rights that states unequivocally the best interests of the child is
of paramount concern, and affirms the State's commitment to enforce these rights in order to protect and promote the health, safety,
and well-being of every child living in New Jersey."
Here's another excerpt: A child has the right "To live in a safe, healthy, and nurturing environment, and to know and be cared for by the child's parent or legal guardian, except in circumstances when the child's removal from his parent or legal guardian is in the child's best interests." This is a very vague "circumstance," and could allow kids to be removed from their parents for virtually any reason.
The text cites the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child but neglects to mention that the US has never signed on to the treaty. His message is clear: the state knows--better than parents do--what's best for children. As mentioned in some of the earlier comments, this is for all parents, not just homeschoolers.
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills/S2500/2334 ... - 4chin8, on 11/15/2008, -0/+2The "no response" prior to the election on this matter is a response. We MUST assume that given the policies that he has affirmed--socialism in all aspects of our lives coupled with a pro-abortion and pro-carbon credits tax --he has already judged the UN's worldview as "GOOD". Now, is our congress strong, convicted, & able to stand up for us on this matter? Or, is the threat of martial law in the streets enough to make them tuck their tails, cower, and turn away from the will of their constituents? I sincerely hope not.
- danielttt, on 11/16/2008, -0/+1samimnot Writes :There are pro's and con's to both sides of the home schooling issue.
I come from somewhat rural family and my first few years were home schooled, same as most kids in my town. Then my family moved and I went to public schools, graduating HS. After which I had to work and save for college. It took me a long time (my parents FORCING me, and not letting me quit) but eventually I managed to get my degree.**********
Where exactly is this community? It doesn't exist, does it. You made it all up. However, your community has existed in the past. It produced people like Thos. Jefferson, Aberaham Lincoln, Benjamin Franklin, and a many others you also haven't heard of. I get damn'd tired of this fabricated crap you sleezy leftists conjur up to "support" your arguments. You hate truth but you constantly want to use it as a weapon. You're an phony and a liar. - samimnot, on 11/15/2008, -4/+2
There are pro's and con's to both sides of the home schooling issue.
I come from somewhat rural family and my first few years were home schooled, same as most kids in my town. Then my family moved and I went to public schools, graduating HS. After which I had to work and save for college. It took me a long time (my parents FORCING me, and not letting me quit) but eventually I managed to get my degree.
Around the time I was 30, I returned to my home town. I couldn’t believe how uneducated my childhood friends were (that sounds harsh, not meant in a degrading way…just being honest). Most of them barely had Jr. High level reading and math skills. None of them had good jobs and their homes were almost in shambles…and it became clear to me that this was all they’ve ever known and therefore “normal”. The truly sad part was that their children were all going down the same path.
I know, not all home schooling turns out this way and I’m just relating my personal experience. The bottom line is parents should want their children to be able to compete with the rest of the world, academically. In “most” situations a legitimate, licensed teacher is the best way to accomplish this. Personally, I think the best opportunity for a child is when both the parents and school system take the responsibility of teaching children. But without a doubt it is next to impossible to make it in the “Real World” without the proper knowledge and training needed to succeed.
Teaching your child good morals is very important…but not FORCING them to get a good education means you’re guaranteeing them a life of poverty.



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