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- flower8, on 07/07/2008, -3/+77Important post everyone needs to act on.
- SjHoward, on 07/07/2008, -2/+59I am not American, but for your own sakes and for those of us who care about Democracy in the US and around the World, Act on this or you will eventually lose the ability to do so. In all likely hood reading this post has flagged you to a NSA or other Government Database. It would really suck one day if you were in a Kangaroo court or worse a victim of rendition and they used this as example of your anti-American dissident behavior. Democracy will march on, you should help pick a direction.
- qdkk, on 07/07/2008, -2/+51I did my part and called both Sen Feinstein and Sen Boxer. It took 2 minutes.
- maxlharris, on 07/07/2008, -2/+47If warrantless wiretaps don't bother you, you probably aren't paying attention. Read. Take the action. The actions only take a minute.
- KevinEldon, on 07/07/2008, -2/+43Important... read and take action.
- jumbybay1, on 07/07/2008, -2/+37I'm glad this was brought to my attention - happy to Digg it if it helps people notice and take action.
- borez, on 07/07/2008, -5/+31"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
It's your country, you ***** change it. - cheaplee, on 07/07/2008, -2/+28It's is almost scary how the administration has skewed the "grey line" to a point where their actions have to be questioned. What is even scarier is our apathy. We tend to forget the important freedoms in life as long as we can drone out in front of TV. I think the administration has been taken cues from China, where they have perfected a model of keeping their people happy enough with a modicum of capitalist pursuits, but keep hold of any real power.
- lilomerlin, on 07/07/2008, -3/+28I am very glad that Tim calls for taking action - taking responsibility.
Be part of democracy by acting - and doing what you can to reach others. Take 60 seconds more to email his post to your friends, tell them you have voted and that YOU think that it is about their future. Here you see that being political should be about shaping future, not parties: on a personal - and collective intelligence level.
Politics always affect us and we should use any way of having a say.
And get even more active if millions and millions of voices should NOT influence the outcome !!!
But first we have to be active - whenever we say "it won't work" about something we want to reach before we have tried, and sticked to it because we believe in our goal, we are on the wrong track. We should be honest then and say: "I don't want to take action, I accept the worst."
I'm not American either - but this is a question of human resonsibility and showing that we WANT democracy, especially because some might not believe in it any more (tragic but true, I'll digg a german survey), which is really dangerous if resulting in passive moaning as final activity.
We can show that we are mature enough to see that democracy means active participation. I had the same hesitations towards being actively political, but this is part of the problem: Being political, active, initiative means to take responsibility as citizens.
As long as we mark our political view ON TOPICS private, don't manage to discuss topics BEYOND PARTIES , we block active participation and going for things together. First, we should define what we want loudly - then politicians and parties would follow.
Taking responsibility and develop self-esteem to stand up for your view, as all of you will know from any life-coaching theories, is basic, basic, basic for whatever you want to reach.
Watching globally, standing up for what we want where we can shouldn't be private by the definition of democracy - We alltogether have to create a new view of being political beyond political parties. - inactive, on 07/07/2008, -0/+25A woman to Benjamin Franklin after the Constitutional Convention of 1787: "What kind of government do we have?"
Franklin: "A republic, if you can keep it." - whodat51773, on 07/08/2008, -0/+21What every American needs to know about FISA....Obama won't change it.
- freshgrease, on 07/08/2008, -1/+21The sad thing is, 99% of Americans will not act on it. 90% won't hear about it or the media will make it sound minute. The rest will go about their individual lives not caring past the next frat party, little girls/boys soccer/baseball game, or what Paris Hilton does in her free time. And so, Democracy thus dies in thunderous applause amongst people without the common interest of their people. We are not a united people. That is the only reason these cowards can push this on us. If we truly were united, millions would march to Washington with a message and a threat of removal. The government's foundation is her people. When you start breaking apart the foundation, your entire structure collapses. If we, the American people, were more assertive and united, perhaps the politicians dipped in oil would realize this fact.
I'm disgusted in the way America operates herself. I can only take solace in the fact that they will be wasting valuable bandwidth and storage space for my rather quiet life. Just don't be busting through my door at night without introduction. I won't know who I'm shooting. - spflorida3, on 07/07/2008, -2/+22***Important - Its things like this that could destroy what it means to be an American. Make sure your voice is heard.
- il2k3, on 07/07/2008, -2/+22Fellow Americans, this is very important. Please take Action!
- byrdgang, on 07/07/2008, -3/+20I left about 15 voicemail messages with both of my senators regarding this FISA bill. I sent one senator about five emails.
I am a pessimist by nature, but I'll do everything in my power to curb this bill. - Shellius, on 07/08/2008, -3/+20Don't just sit there -- do something!
I also keep hearing excuses for why a Constitutional expert like Obama would be for this wiretapping compromise. None of them make a damn bit of sense. People seem to think he's got a magic fix in his pocket that he'll pull out in January 2009. Call me skeptical. You don't vote for something like this unless you are without any regard for the Constitution. I don't think I've ever despised certain sell-out Democrats like I have the last two weeks. - highlymodified, on 07/08/2008, -2/+17People, this is the true front on the war for freedom.
Beyond this lies the quick decent into totalitarianism. When the fear pervades everyday communications, there's no going back.
Apathy, while in style, is not an option. - Roninsfx, on 07/07/2008, -0/+15I agree! It takes no time to make the calls to your Senators. Do your part and act.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -3/+18If you do one thing, just ONE THING on Digg all year, I beg you to let it be this. This is about preserving the absolute core of the American democracy and its freedoms.
- republicker, on 07/08/2008, -0/+14Happiness is a warm gun.
- founderofpork, on 07/08/2008, -0/+14I don't see how anyone could possibly buy his excuse for supporting this bill. He studied ***** CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. He knows better than this. And we should vote for him because he says he'll change all this once he's in office? Sounds like ***** to me.
Now, I actually do believe he'd try to change these things once he's in office, but the fact is that THERE'S NO GUARANTEE HE'LL BE ELECTED. Why are we acting like he's already being inaugurated?
If Obama is willing to vote for unconstitutional legislation to try to appeal to people (who are these people???) who are for some ***** up reason in favor of this bill...well, that shows he's not changing anything. He's playing the same game as always, and he's not the person he says he is. Period. - Popperian, on 07/08/2008, -0/+13No politician that votes for, nor supports this bill, will ever receive any vote, support, nor anything else of any kind from me in the future.
What is great about this bill is that it is such a great litmus test for the politicians that are fascists and tyrants versus the ones that aren't. I'm going to print the list of the House and Senate members and how they each voted and use it as a permanent "voting card". If they are on the list, they need to be thrown out of office. - MrKrinkleDude, on 07/08/2008, -0/+12Just pick up the phone, dial some random number in Russia and scream THE YELLOW CAKE RECEIVED. Of course, it's always better to jack into your neighbors telephone line in the box outside of his house.
- swrostmore, on 07/08/2008, -2/+13The vote has been delayed until Wednesday
- founderofpork, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10Are you serious? If Obama can't take a stand now, why should I trust him to do jack ***** when he's in office? He said months ago that this bill should be filibustered, but now he's getting ready to vote Yes? Sounds like ***** pandering to get elected to me. Isn't that exactly what Obama's "new" style of politics is supposed to change?
Why doesn't he use his platform as one of the most watched people in America to educate Americans about the evils of this bill? Explain all the reasons why voting for it would be dereliction of his duty as Senator, and then watch the rest of the legislative branch scramble to cover their asses.
But he won't do that because he wants to get elected and he thinks he can't do that without playing the same ***** political games as always. I'll be incredibly impressed and surprised if he does the right thing here. - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -5/+15Every American needs to be well armed. Should a member of an unConstitutional entity knock on your door, proceed to open the door with extreme caution whilst making sure they are aware of what you're holding in your hand(s). Politely indicate that they are on private property, are not welcome and should leave immediately. If they refuse, call your county Sheriff. If they get aggressive and attempt to exert an authority not allotted them by the US Constitution? That choice will be one you have to make on the spot.
I doubt it will be too difficult these days to find a Grand Jury who doesn't have a member that hasn't been harassed by these thugs.
While it's nice to have a large caliber rifle or shotgun ready, they tend to be more afraid of cameras than anything. They're scared ***** of cameras. If that doesn't work? Pull the trigger and let God sort it out. - joeanon, on 07/08/2008, -2/+12Face it, without direct action from the people, America is turning to *****.
Obama is not going to save us, he's not even going to provide a health care solution or significant renewable energy at the rate of his current plans.
It appears he is leaning more and more right and was likely the worst possible choice as nomination in such an opportunistic time for Democrats.
Instead of using the GOP failures to catapult the needed liberal ideals, we are compromising with progress on one side and failure on the other.
In a polarized system like ours, many time compromise is sheer sacrifice for the sake of pandering for votes.
People who want small government and think the magic of corporate America will save them simply do not need a voice any more than the South did when it wanted to keep slaves.
Democracy is not always right, mob rule does not always work, that's the reality history has shown us. An apathetic public will be abused by the wealthy and the fools they've bred through lies and misinformation. - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -9/+18If you care about this for real, and vote for Obama then you are a fraud.
- CyphreDias, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10So much is happening so fast that we are desensitized to it all. I feel tire and worn thin of fighting this *****.
- pakruse, on 07/07/2008, -2/+11Any other Texans out there think it's even worth the time it would take me to call Cornyn or Hutchinson? My thoughts are they (or their aides) would just laugh at me on the phone. If there's a bill that gives a corporation protection at the expense of individual liberties, Cornyn's a likely sponsor of the bill, rather than a potential opponent.
On a related note, vote Noriega over Cornyn in November! - nikkid140, on 07/07/2008, -2/+11Thanks to my friend for bringing this to my attention. It is quite important for people to at least glance over and be aware of what is going on. Not a big political person, but I forwarded this to everyone I could.
- OfNumbers, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10Front paged the day of. That's activism at it's finest.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -0/+9H.R. 6304 lets a president spy on anyone, anywhere for 67 DAYS without a warrant or a reason or oversight, then keep whatever information it obtains.
- nontoxyc, on 07/08/2008, -3/+11Those hypocritical ***** in Washington need to be rounded up and tried. They're not my leaders.
- thegodfaza, on 07/08/2008, -2/+10Don't need to e-mail my senator. He is Russ Feingold.
- cheezintern, on 07/08/2008, -2/+10This is indeed very important. I've been calling my senators all week, and will continue to do so.
- CuriousJohnson, on 07/08/2008, -1/+8Emailed my senators.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9Stop your whining Americans you think this is about terrorism? more likely to better control the drug trade/financial markets, your government actually encourages terrorism and benefits more from it then the so called "terrorist" you people ***** your pants over.
- LitGeekPJ, on 07/08/2008, -1/+8Dude, if you're commenting from Canada, this affects you guys more than most other democracies. One of the idiosyncrasies of the world's longest continuous peaceful international border is that it makes a great escape route for those of us Stateside who have, say, "issues" with our government. It worked during Vietnam, and it's working for U.S. citizens sneaking north to receive affordable health care. We will definitely do our part... but it wouldn't hurt if you could also do us the favor, in case we can't stop this draconian law, of keeping a lookout for any unfortunate accommodations Ottawa may make, regarding either U.S. "escapees" or Canadian citizens. TYVM for your own comment.
- hugolp, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9Obama is a fraud, and you know it, or at least are starting to feel it. Since he discover he could win, he has been moving backwards to more "corporate friendly" political positions. All the time.
US people is tired of Bush and wants a change and Obama is using that for not giving a ***** to people and make friends in the big corporations. I you are not convince about this yet, wait and see. But I am sure you have at least a feeling at the back of your mind telling you that something is wrong with Obama. - Dauntless1, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9Yes, we should do all we can to stop this amendment. At least we still live in a country where we can try to make a difference! On another note, who didn't see this coming?
- q2d2, on 07/08/2008, -0/+6I just spent most of my lunch arguing with some ass-clown in Senator Pat Roberts' office.
I called to express my distaste for Sen. Roberts pending vote to pardon the illegal activity of the major telecom corporations and the illegal request to do so by Governor George W. Bush.
He basically told me (repeatedly and with growing animosity) that I didn't understand what I was talking about and that Senator Roberts was not putting the interests of his corporate bank rollers ahead of the people of Kansas.
I challenged him several times to show me where I was wrong and his words were, "Just trust me, you don't understand the complexities of it."
It ain't too complex, you tool.
The other spineless weasel from Kansas, Senator Brownback, didn't even direct his staff on how to address the issue with his constituents.
They are both traitors and cowards. - c4m320n, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Wow I had no idea about this untill I saw it on dig. I must say it sent shivers up and down my spine. If this passes, we are just one step closer for our government to take total controll. If anything like this would have happened when our country was being born, we would have already been in a civil war.
- Elranzer, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Right... just vote 3rd party, and let the Republicans have another 8 years in the White House. Honestly, I don't think my country can handle that.
- NorthMass, on 07/08/2008, -2/+8Vote 3rd party, Obama is just another run of the mill politician.
- RabidAngel, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Either we take a real stance against this - even after it's potential passage - or we allow that which was once America to roll over and die. I am willing to get off my ass and let them know we're not moving on this issue. What about you?
As already stated, actions like this by our government, during the years that we as a nation were truly great, would have led us to the brink of civil war. Such violations of our most fundamental rights would have been unthinkable then, as it is now. I am willing to discuss our options with anyone who has had enough. - AvangionQ, on 07/08/2008, -0/+6That the Telecoms were violating the 4th Amendment even *before* 9/11 comes as a bit of a surprise ... that such violations have not been made public through journalistic investigation is sad ... but that the new FISA revisions would allow Telecom immunity for these offenses *must* be fought to the highest level of government!
- kreneskyp, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5I keep hearing this over and over.
You are admitting that one of the people are a U.S. citizen and that they can and will be spied on. Just because they call outside the U.S. does not make it ok. Many U.S. citizens have reasons to call outside the country. My wife's family is in Thailand and we make or receives calls from them several times a week. Our privacy is being invaded without cause. - seantubridy, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5FISA
They're everywhere you don't want them to be. - newsound6, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6And what is the next option if it passes? The Swedes are in the streets. We try that here and the media just ignores us. Do you get groups together and start to occupy senators offices? Shut down streets? Roll over and give up?
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