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- TheEngineer2008, on 08/18/2008, -2/+100Nice quote from the article -- "And then 9/11 happened. In its wake, Barr says, he became increasingly disenchanted with George W. Bush. He came to see his own party as having moved 180 degrees from the small-government philosophy that was at the core of the Republicans' 1994 "Contract With America.""
- HxChris91, on 08/18/2008, -1/+59Great article, nice to see the mainstream media at least acknowledging a third-party candidate.
- kemp34, on 08/18/2008, -5/+56Barr is a quality alternative to the two party false dichotomy shoved down our throats by the corporate media, the party establishment and the foolish sycophants who want to limit meaningful debate.
- Cryptocracy, on 08/18/2008, -15/+65Obama or McCain = more of the same!
Obama or McCain = more of the same!
Obama or McCain = more of the same! - BurningSand, on 08/18/2008, -4/+53I love the article-- what I don't love is that it is under "Arts & Living". WTF?
- freeforall232, on 08/18/2008, -7/+55What a great article!
Go Bob!!
bobbarr2008.com/issues - susanleefrnds, on 08/18/2008, -4/+48Hey nice article..dugg-ed
- greencoat, on 08/18/2008, -1/+45The John McCain bury brigades are coming for this as we speak. This is where we always stall out.
- hookski, on 08/18/2008, -0/+38Nice article! Finally mainstream media picks up.
- TheEngineer2008, on 08/18/2008, -0/+28LOL. The two mainstream candidates are going to keep the same welcome mat that's out today, and you're nitpicking over minor details of position of the only candidate who'll do anything to end illegal immigration???
- cnot3, on 08/19/2008, -3/+26The Libertarian Party is the only choice for fiscal conservatives this election. The only true conservative in the republican party is Ron Paul, and since he isn't running I think I'll cast my vote for Barr.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -8/+28Bob Barr is the most qualified to be in the oval office in 2009.
Most importantly dont fall for the lesser of evils. Vote American not evil. Vote Bob Barr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw1Aji8FzJc - inactive, on 08/18/2008, -0/+19This is incredibly silly seeing that the two major candidates want to bankrupt the country. So bring someone out who actually wants to limit government and all you get is whining about an issue that McBama have no clue about anyways.
- Minarchian, on 08/19/2008, -0/+19dafragsta
Speaking for myself, I have been a Libertarian for about 30 years. It has allowed me to see things from the outside looking in. It's allowed me to see the media bias and outright hostility to anything remotely resembling the principles that this Country was founded upon. It's also allowed me to see politics from the outside looking in and it is the same lack of principles there as well.
The country needs a paradigm shift in the way things are being run. The present state of continual wars, tanking economy, freedom destroying legislation has got to be reversed or we're doomed. This isn't some "conspiracy theory", is documented fact.
With the two leading candidates it is especially clear that it truly doesn't matter which you vote for. Their differences are so slight they are virtually one and the same. They both will lead to more wars, tanking economy, loss of liberty and porous borders.
Some people claim that we *must* vote for McCain because of the future of the SCOTUS. But that is not an argument when you think about the Republican appointed members of the SCOTUS there now who have been voting against our Rights with aplomb (Their Kelo decision, for example). One of the promises Bush made to get into office was to get the court to overturn Roe v Wade, but that hasn't happened and it probably never will. It truly makes no difference which candidate appoints a SCOTUS member because once in they are in they are there for life and autonomous.
So, in the final analysis, one should vote their conscience and keep the Constitution above all else. And neither of the two leaders will do that. So all that is left is Barr, imperfect he may be, he's the only one that will work for the Constitution without letting religion run his decisions and at least give the country a fighting chance to dig itself out. - bitchmac, on 08/18/2008, -0/+18and which canidate is against FISA? only barr. spy on that obama.
- TheEngineer2008, on 08/19/2008, -0/+19McCain and Obama are two sides of the same big government coin. We can't break the cycle by voting for the same old thing, but we can send a loud message to both parties that they can't get our votes by advocating policies with which we disagree.
- HxChris91, on 08/19/2008, -1/+18Have you ever done research on Ron Paul's record of talking/acting?
- OmegaWolf, on 08/19/2008, -4/+21I want a Libertarian in the White House so badly, it aches. No more gun control, WoD, censorship, trampling upon the Fourth Amendment. Our rights would be restored and government would truly serve us!
- daeken, on 08/19/2008, -4/+20It's not an enumerated power of the federal government -- it's a state issue.
- daeken, on 08/19/2008, -0/+16I'm a Libertarian and I've just been very irritated this election. On the republican side, we have a warmonger with no fiscal sense, and on the democratic side we have a socialist. Why isn't there a fiscal conservative, socially liberal candidate in one of the major two parties? It seems like the middle isn't represented at all.
I was going to vote for Obama simply as the lesser of two evils, but after seeing more of his fiscal policy, I can't in good faith do so. I'm going to give my vote to Barr. He has no chance in hell, but I'll be throwing my vote away no matter who I vote for, so I might as well put it to someone I tend to agree with. - ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/19/2008, -0/+16So who do you suppose we vote for? Nobody? I'm going to take my chances and vote for the guy that doesn't want to bankrupt the country anymore than it already is.
- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -19/+35OBushma or McSame? That "choice" is lame!
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -3/+19I don't think they're completely the same. Obama would rather some of the troops get shot at in the Afghanistan wild goose chase, whereas McCain prefers the Iraq wild goose chase. Obama advocates global socialism, with an emphasis on blaming whites for everything and transferring their wealth to non-whites. McCain favors global elitism, with an emphasis on forcing the rest of us to prop-up multinational corporations and the state of Israel with corporate welfare.
So, if you think getting raped and subjugated by a different colored guy instead of the usual colored guy is 'Change You Can Believe In' (TM), you might want to go with Obamamiah. - TheEngineer2008, on 08/18/2008, -0/+16Arts & Living is weak, but at least it's on the front page of that section in the print edition:
"Monday, August 18, 2008; Page C01" - subgeniusd, on 08/18/2008, -1/+16@Lonewacko - Your point 1. is a complete and utter fabrication. Your point 2. is a misleading statement similar to those of McCain and BHO. Your point 3. has no chance of being understood by anyone not as nuts as yourself.
- BurningSand, on 08/18/2008, -0/+14Hey, Lonewacko--add a couple of f's instead of DotCom...
- rmxz, on 08/19/2008, -3/+17Because it's an issue best handled by local governments.
- Minarchian, on 08/19/2008, -0/+13Engineer....
Exactly....Politicians don't have a right to our vote, they must earn it.
And these two guys haven't earned my vote in the least.
Remember the old saying?
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten"
It's time now to change the way we do things or we'll just get the same thing we've been getting. - nixfu, on 08/19/2008, -1/+13We don't need "deficit reduction" we need GOVERNMENT reduction.
Don't cut the budget by 30% cut the GOVERNMENT by 30%, and then 30% more, and then 30% more. - muckemuck, on 08/19/2008, -3/+15"No Child Left Behind" springs to mind..
Public education should not be a Federal program. It should be up to the individual states, counties, and cities to decide how their schools are run, whether to allow vouchers for private schools or homeschooling, etc. - bduddy, on 08/19/2008, -7/+18Hate his policies, but respect what he's trying to do, and it is nice that the big papers are at least covering him.
- BurningSand, on 08/18/2008, -0/+10Yeah, at least they printed it.
- paradexes, on 08/19/2008, -0/+10IMO Libertarians are the new "republicans" They are what the republican party once claimed to stand for. Small Govt, fiscal frugality and just all around the stuff that made us great. Not the warmongering crap we are dealing with now.
- muckemuck, on 08/19/2008, -0/+10... and didn't McCain champion amnesty not too long ago?
- throop77, on 08/19/2008, -0/+9They don't deserve votes after Pelosi, at least, they aren't going to get mine.
- kemp34, on 08/18/2008, -0/+9Lonewhack claptrap...
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+9I think the party has traditionally favored 'managed' borders, with many pundits at various libertarian magazines calling for completely open borders. The party's current statement is that law needs to be reformed, and that illegal aliens can be/ought to be penalized -- but not deported -- because not doing so invites lawbreaking and is a slap in the face to those who would legally immigrate.
Barr, on the other hand, has stated that he would support some immigration restrictions and increased enforcement of existing laws until the mess can get sorted out. - psysop, on 08/19/2008, -3/+12Barr looks like a dude disguised as another dude.
- RobTyree, on 08/19/2008, -4/+13The Department of Education really does more harm that good when it comes to actually getting children a decent education. For example, take a look at 'No Child Left Behind', which has been a monumental failure my any measure. Teachers are now spending so much time showing children how to do well on the standardized tests that are now required to get funding, there is less and less room to actually educate them on fundamentals. It's also caused the rampant gutting of things like gifted and talented programs, art programs, and vocational classes from the curriculum of most schools. Basically, what ends up happening is the brightest students with the most potential get ignored and left out in favor of trying to bring the below average students up far enough to slide by the standards. I firmly believe this policy is stunting the intellectual growth of our youth as a whole.
Combine the policy issues with the massive amounts of money that are basically wasted due to the bureaucracy that is the Dept. of Education, and I think there is a pretty compelling case to scrap the entire thing. Plus, when was the last time you elected someone serving in the Department of Education? I always thought the purpose of having school boards was so that the local community had some say in the standards and curriculum of the schools they pay to operate. Appointed officials in the Dept. of Education are making decisions all the time that outweigh the decisions of democratically elected school boards - does this sound like the "American" way to do things to you?
You might not be able to read, write, or do math after graduating high school anymore, but boy, if you can find a job that requires only filling in bubbles with a number 2 lead pencil, you are set, since most of your time in school has been spend learning exactly that skill. - PopcornDave, on 08/19/2008, -0/+8But you're not throwing it away. I've been told that a lot this election cycle too, but if a third or fourth party is to ever gain any momentum against the duostocrasty that we have now, somebody's going to have to man (or woman) up and vote against the duostocrasty.
I was an Obama supporter early on when he looked like he wasn't just another Washington hack, but he's surrounded himself with *way* too many old Washington weasels that he lost my support. McCain on the other hand never had a ghost of a chance in hell of getting my vote - even with the threat of death.
At this point I can't stand either of these talking gas bags. I'm going with Barr, regardless if he has a chance or not. Somebody needs to tell the two parties to ***** off until one of them gets their ***** together. - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+8So True
- BotchaMcCoola, on 08/19/2008, -0/+8It always feels best to do the morally right thing. Don't let the Democrats and Republicans and their media parasites inveigle you with their usual argument.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -2/+10It's good he's getting coverage, but honestly he's just not a strong enough candidate (I'm not saying Obama or Mcain are either, cause they aren't). No matter who wins this election we are getting a bum deal.
- nixfu, on 08/19/2008, -2/+9>That's his answer for everything.
That is what the Constitution SAYS is supposed to be the answer... it WAS the answer until 70 years ago and the supreme court ***** us over by destroying the 10th amendment for the "New(raw) Deal".
Your welcome to amend the Constitution but it does not SAY that the federal government can do all the ***** it does today...its says in fact that it SHOULD NOT...but hey screw the Constitution, so long as you get a handout or two right? -
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