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Wash. Post and NY Times Double-Standards

mediamatters.org — A Media Matters for America review found that since February 27, the date that televangelist John Hagee endorsed Sen. John McCain for president, The New York Times and The Washington Post combined have published more than 12 times as many articles mentioning Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. and Sen. Barack Obama as they have mentioning Hagee and McCain.

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  • dig1x, on 05/01/2008, -30/+10John McCain's pastor:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee#Criticism
    • oldhick, on 05/01/2008, -14/+28He's not John McCain's pastor dip *****. He's just a pastor that has endorsed McCain. Hagee lives in San Antonio, Texas. McCain lives in Phoenix, Arizona. John McCain attends North Phoenix Baptist Church.
      • TheSwashbuckler, on 05/01/2008, -4/+8He's more than that. He's a pastor who's endorsement the McCain campaign specifically sought...
        • mrsteveman1, on 05/01/2008, -3/+7Not to mention pat robertson, mr "gays and lesbians cause terrorism" himself
      • thirdcoastborn, on 05/06/2008, -0/+0It's the same *****, *****
    • LastVisibleDog, on 05/01/2008, -15/+11He is not John McCain's pastor - MORON!
      Hagee endorsed McCain - McCain did not endorsed Hagee nor does McCain got to Hagee's church nor was McCain married by Hagee nor did McCain title one of his books for a speech given by Hagee.
      Brain-dead leftists keep trying to beat this dead horse (dead horse is a perfect apology for the modern Democrat party)
      • wendelgee2, on 05/01/2008, -4/+6He did seek his endorsement.
        • RepubOperative, on 05/02/2008, -5/+3No he did not the endorsement was nonetheless given.
          • TheSwashbuckler, on 05/02/2008, -1/+4Wow, you're calling McCain a liar?!


            STEPHANOPOULOS: A lot of Senator Obama’s allies and others say
            that you should condemn the comments of Reverend John Hagee, an
            evangelical pastor…

            MCCAIN: Oh, I do. And I did. I said, any comments that he made
            about the Catholic church I strongly condemn, of course.

            STEPHANOPOULOS: Yet you solicited and accepted his endorsement?

            MCCAIN: Yes, indeed. I did. And I condemned the comments that
            he made concerning the Catholic church.

            http://thepage.time.com/transcript-of-mccain-on-ab ...
          • Dewhead, on 05/02/2008, -2/+2Gee, the leader of Hamas endorsed Obama so I guess we should all equate that his 20 year relationship with Rev. Wright. Honestly, Obama disciples will grasp at anything to try and justify the sick relationship that Obama has had.
          • CryRightardCry, on 05/02/2008, -2/+1LOL
            Either way, he HAPPILY accepted it.
            I really you just want to debate the wording, because that's the ONLY way you don't come off like a colossal hypocrite, but the fact is.....
    • pintomp3, on 05/01/2008, -5/+7actually, mccain's spiritual adviser is rod parsley:
      http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/200 ...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tViqufbk7I8
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Parsley#Criticism ...
      • LastVisibleDog, on 05/01/2008, -13/+6MotherJones=Prue Left Wing Propaganda.

        Keep spinning lefties and start getting used to this term: President McCain
        • haydesigner, on 05/01/2008, -4/+3@LastVisibleDog: "start getting used to this term: President McCain"

          Ah hah ha ha hah ha hah hah ha ha ha ha!!
        • mrsteveman1, on 05/01/2008, -3/+7LastVisibleDog=***** insane
      • RepubOperative, on 05/02/2008, -2/+4The following information relates to John McCain's church. McCain lives in Phoenix, Arizona.

        John McCain attends North Phoenix Baptist Church.
        http://www.npbc.org/

        Pastors at McCain's church
        http://www.npbc.org/?link=6&sublink=10&_inc=whoiso ...
    • Sogui, on 05/01/2008, -5/+6It's funny when the Huffington Post called Hagee "McCain's pastor" too, but nobody minded when THAT story was on the front page.
    • Shawn4168, on 05/01/2008, -3/+4Dig1x:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot
    • sanman, on 05/01/2008, -8/+3Obamabots > RonPaul brigades
    • RepubOperative, on 05/02/2008, -2/+3Its not his pastor but funny one liberal ***** head.

      John McCain repudiated any views Friday of a prominent televangelist who endorsed him last month "if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics." McCain has come under fire since televangelist John Hagee endorsed him Feb. 27, but until Friday his response had been tepid. But he said Friday he had been hearing from Catholics who find Hagee's comments offensive. Hagee, leader of a San Antonio megachurch, has called the Roman Catholic Church a "false cult system." Hagee's endorsement had been intended to shore up McCain's support among evangelical Christians.

      http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/ny-txtca ...
      • TheSwashbuckler, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2He repudiates Hagee's views, but he sought Hagee's endorsement. Ya gotta love the irony in ttat.
  • chicofaraby, on 05/01/2008, -22/+37b-b-b-but... LIBERAL MEDIA!!!!!
    • Sogui, on 05/01/2008, -7/+11NYT published a story on McCain about an unproven unverified series of events between him and a lobbyist, insinuating an affair. If that story passed muster for the NYT, I can only imagine how devoid this story must be of merit for them not to follow it any further.
      • pintomp3, on 05/01/2008, -2/+4even worse was their push for the iraq war:
        Pulitzer Prize winner Judith Miller’s series of exclusives about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq—courtesy of the now-notorious Ahmad Chalabi—helped the New York Times keep up with the competition and the Bush administration bolster the case for war. How the very same talents that caused her to get the story also caused her to get it wrong.
        http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/9226/
        • p0s3r, on 05/01/2008, -5/+3I don't know why you keep living in the past. Like Michelle Obama and John Kerry said, it's time to move forward!
          • pintomp3, on 05/01/2008, -3/+3living in the past? because of the lies and deception, there are over 4000 US soldiers and hundreds of thousands of iraqis who aren't living at all.
          • RepubOperative, on 05/02/2008, -3/+3This is the real story:

            If Baracka Obama disagreed with what Rev. Jeremiah Wright was saying then why did Baracka Obama "a typical black person" give $27,500 to the church ($22,500 in 2006 and $5,000 in 2005) to Africanzied Trinty United Church run by a man of the past, the black supremacist, conspiracy theorist and racist who infects the younger generation with racial prejudice and animus and then say he came unto us to transcend racism? Sounds like Baracka Obama got caught in another big lie. Maybe you haven't heard everything that Wright said:

            YouTube - Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 1
            Government creates AIDS for blacks @40 seconds in; Govt of KKK @1:32; Govt plants weapons on blacks and will do so on Sadamm Hussein @2:05; God Damm America @2:09
            http://youtube.com/watch?v=617eK2XIaLk

            YouTube - Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 2
            Government gives them the drugs @0:01; God Damm America @0:14; Hillary aint never been called a nigger @0:55; we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and never batted an eye @2:19; we supported state terroriam against the Palestinians and black South Africans @2:20; Bill did us just like he did Monica Lewinsky @2:50
            http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaNBzU6iryo

            YouTube - Israel is responsible for 9/11
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnI431s1r6s

            YouTube - Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Clinton ain't never been called...
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM
          • skyfox2k, on 05/02/2008, -2/+4repub- kill yourself.
    • LukasSmith, on 05/01/2008, -5/+8Butt.... interesting news!! There is nothing less interesting to a white guy then some crackpot redneck preacher. Now show me a black preacher that blames me and whitey for all his problems or actually says in words Damn America. Theres news. Because I thought after reading the Obama fanatics crap and spam day and night that all black people were holy and pure. Wright proved you wrong.
    • Koushiro, on 05/01/2008, -3/+4I know! It's as if the whole Liberal Media bias was just some creation of a bunch of idiots! ;)
      • masterm1nd, on 05/01/2008, -3/+4Ok, the majority of American citizens (not voters) lean slightly to the left. The media knew this, so they took on a left bias because it increases ratings (ultimately increasing revenue ). Eventually the media all looked the same because they were all targeting that largest segment of viewers, slightly left people. That then created a situation where there was a huge market gap for right leaning news, so FOX jumped in and cleaned up.
        • justz00t, on 05/01/2008, -4/+4Wow that was a rationale,well thought and most likely to be reality.

          So your going to have a hard time making any friends around this site.
      • masterm1nd, on 05/01/2008, -5/+3So... since the average citizen is slightly left, but the average voter is not, the media is thus further left in comparison to the politics of our government.
    • BeefBaron, on 05/01/2008, -3/+2USA: Where one individual preaching about his invisible friend can be worse than the next!
      • masterm1nd, on 05/01/2008, -2/+5Lol, the controversy has nothing to with an invisible friend.
    • Pillage, on 05/01/2008, -2/+2The media told me that he has a black illegitimate child.
    • victordelprete, on 05/01/2008, -3/+2This is nothing compared to what they did burying Ron Paul. The news isn't news, it's propaganda, and the sooner everyone figures that out the better.
      • homercles337, on 05/01/2008, -2/+4"Burying Ron Paul" eh? Oh Jebus. Paul was a whack-job. He buried himself with all of his idiotic ideas.
        • thirdcoastborn, on 05/06/2008, -0/+0It's Ron Paul's followers that are idiotic
  • swrostmore, on 05/01/2008, -26/+18The difference is, McCain actively went after Hagee's endorsement, whereas Wright had nothing to do with Obama's campaign. So naturally it follows that the media would focus on personal relationships rather than political ones, since this is a Presidential campaign and everyone knows that has nothing to do with politics.
    • PolishLogic, on 05/01/2008, -8/+17If by "nothing to do with" you mean working directly for Obama's campaign on one of the campaign committees, then you are correct.

      http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/14/obama.minis ...
      • swrostmore, on 05/01/2008, -9/+9I mean "campaign" in the sense that Obama isn't holding him up as an example of what his campaign stands for, as McCain is doing with Hagee.
        • oldhick, on 05/01/2008, -7/+8You're a pretty bad liar today Swrosty... Not like you at all.
          "A McCain adviser acknowledged on Monday that the campaign had failed to look into Mr. Hagee’s background adequately and said that as a result the campaign’s procedures for vetting endorsers had improved."
          and
          “In no way did I intend for his endorsement to suggest that I in turn agree with all of Pastor Hagee’s views, which I obviously do not.”
          http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/us/politics/08ha ...
          • swrostmore, on 05/01/2008, -6/+8You're right, I'm off my game today. I'm sure I could find an identical "I do not agree with all of his views" quote from Obama, but whats the point? This atavistic behavior has gone on for too long already.
          • kilpack, on 05/01/2008, -5/+7@swrostmore

            The difference is that Obama sat and listened to this hate-monger Wright for 20 years then rewarded him with a place in his campaign. McCain repudiated the views of Hagee as soon as he was made aware of them.
          • haydesigner, on 05/01/2008, -4/+2@kilpack: "McCain repudiated the views of Hagee as soon as he was made aware of them."

            Oh please.
            He only repudiated them as soon as it became a hint of a national issue. You know damn well that McCain knew all about Hagee and his beliefs... why else would McCain reach out to Hagee and his hate-filled constituency?
          • oldhick, on 05/01/2008, -1/+3@swrotsmore - thats true and a valid point. I'm just still confused why people care so much about McCain and Hagee when McCain is weak across the board. The only reason Obama is getting nailed on it is because he's doing pretty well with everything else!
          • p0s3r, on 05/01/2008, -2/+5@swrostmore, find me a quote from Obama prior to 2006 where he says he doesn't agree with all his views. Obama started distancing himself as soon as he started running for President.
          • RepubOperative, on 05/02/2008, -1/+1John McCain repudiated any views Friday of a prominent televangelist who endorsed him last month "if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics." McCain has come under fire since televangelist John Hagee endorsed him Feb. 27, but until Friday his response had been tepid. But he said Friday he had been hearing from Catholics who find Hagee's comments offensive. Hagee, leader of a San Antonio megachurch, has called the Roman Catholic Church a "false cult system." Hagee's endorsement had been intended to shore up McCain's support among evangelical Christians.

            http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/ny-txtca ...
    • axpdocbrown, on 05/01/2008, -7/+9Yes, also Obama spent 20 years around these people like Wright, where as McCain wasn't actively involved swapping ideas on America and it's "flaws" Hagee
      • swrostmore, on 05/01/2008, -5/+5Its cute how you put "flaws" in quotes, lol.
        • masterm1nd, on 05/01/2008, -6/+5Well, since some of the "flaws" are purely fantasy, I think the quotation marks are appropriate.
    • Bamont, on 05/02/2008, -1/+3You know, I love Digg, and I respect all of those people currently using logic and denouncing these posts as nothing more than hoopla started by Obama's followers. Let me say this. Digg is hurting Obama, they aren't helping him.

      Consider the point that when all of this controversy first started, Digg was up in arms at foxnews and other media outlets for letting it get out. When Obama first defended Wright, we had story after story dugg up daily, with pastors and others coming here to defend and justify Wright's statements - saying that they were taken out of context. Then, when Wright did it a SECOND time, Obama came out and said, "Enough is enough. I deplore this man's actions" - the stories on Digg start saying, "Let's move on from this."

      NOW - we have the Obamatons pointing fingers at the Republicans and somehow trying to draw a parallel between McCain's very brief relationship with Hagee and Obama's 20 year relationship with Rev. Wright. That's what we call a red herring, and it's absolutely ridiculous that it's come down to this.

      I'm an Obama supporter - but those of you that don't use logic to dictate your actions need to chill out and pay attention to what I'm about to say: Your candidate is flawed. He's not perfect. He's a human being. Not all of his policies will be perfect. Not all of his statements will be 100% accurate. He's going to stutter, he's going to mess some things up. The important thing is that he's going to try to change this country for the better. Always trying to make excuses for a candidate that anyone with common sense knows is going to make mistakes is futile and ridiculous, and you hurt his reputation and his cause much more than you help it.
  • brjohnson789, on 05/01/2008, -16/+8I still think Obama would be bad overall for the US, but he'll be better than Clinton or McCain. THAT'S why the 'media' (corporate mouthpieces) is knocking Obama. And that's why Obama will not be the next president.
    • swrostmore, on 05/01/2008, -12/+8If he's better than Clinton or McCain that means he must be better than Bush, and if he's an improvement over Bush by definition he'll be "good" overall for the US. Q.E.D.
      • brjohnson789, on 05/01/2008, -7/+6Let's assign some values shall we? THe number represents how much 'good' per year is done. Bush is -10; Clinton -5; McCain -7; Obama -3. Yes, Obama is 'better' than Bush by 7. BUT HE'S STILL NEGATIVE!! You're an idiot, Q.E.D.
      • kipmartin, on 05/01/2008, -2/+5assigning numbers is silly. its like saying the Beatles are 40% better than the Rolling Stones. it does not compute unless n=quantifiable variable. what swrostmore is saying is this: Obama is better than the other two (a), who are better than bush (b). if thats the case, obama is better than clinton and mccain and they are better than bush, then a+b=c where c = STFU.

        QED.
  • oldhick, on 05/01/2008, -13/+60What would the media have to talk about? McCain hardly knows Hagee. I challenge you guys to list the amount of time the two have spent together... Come on, McCain "courted" Hagee for over a year right???
    The reality is that McCain has already distanced himself from Hagee and has publicly admitted that he hadn't researched Hagee enough. Source - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/us/politics/08ha ...
    Trying to compare Hagee/McCain with Wright/Obama is simply stupid. First, as swrostmore incorrectly pointed out, Wright WAS on Obama's campaign staff, specifically his African American Religious Leadership Committee. Wright left the campaign because he knew he would be controversial. Source - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/jeremiah- ...
    So you have a close personal friend, mentor, and spiritual adviser who served on your campaign and you're comparing that to McCain who simply wanted evangelicals to vote for him??? That's ***** retarded.

    Check this out people. There are a million OTHER reasons to not vote for McCain. Why are Obama fans so stupidly trying to draw this comparison? First, just except that Obama took a hit about Wright. It certainly hurt his campaign. But he WILL move on and move forward. Issues come up all the time and you deal with them and progress. Trying to play the "but, but, but McCain has a bad friend too" card is just childish.
    Hit McCain where it hurts. Point out that he has no real energy plan at all. Focus on his ridiculous summer gasoline tax break. Hit him with his fiscally irresponsible position of continuing tax cuts while dramatically increasing spending. Focus on his war mongering and support of torture and detainment of combatants without legal representation. Hit him on his failed immigration amnesty plan.
    Seriously people, there is no shortage of reasons to screw over McCain. If religion is your thing and you really want to hit McCain on religion, talk about how obviously contrived his new found faith is. In the 2000 election he didn't have the support of the religious right. He wasn't going to church and he publicly denounced Pat Roberston and Jerry Falwell. Guess what? Magically between 2000 and 2008 he's found god and he magically has the support of the religious right. If you can't see how hollow his faith is and how politically contrived his new religious views are then you're a moron.
    • oldhick, on 05/01/2008, -5/+7I think the first link might have been chopped off... http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/us/politics/08ha ...
      • rewinn, on 05/01/2008, -3/+4What would the media have to talk about?
        1. That McCain sought out Hagee's endorsement
        2. That McCain now says he didn't have the good judgment to look into Hagee's views before seeking his endorsement
        3. That Hagee says vile and dangerous things, which may fairly be attributed to McCain.
        There's a double standard all right; if you want to add Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell to the dogpile, go ahead; but don't pretend that McCain should not be stuck with Hagee the same that Obama's been stuck with Hagee.
        Let McCain give a speech on religious harmony, explaining why he might reject what Hagee says even while he enjoys his endorsement. If it is half as good as Obama's speech on racial harmony, surely the controversy would subside ... right?
    • Hetman, on 05/01/2008, -3/+4I agree with you accept for one thing. McCain is against torture. Because he was tortured in Vietnam. But you are definatly right on the rest of the issuies.
      • swrostmore, on 05/01/2008, -5/+6McCain is for torture because he votes against bills that outlaw torture. Well, more correctly, he was against torture before he was a candidate, now he's for it.
        • SoulGrub, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1You might wanna check again. He came down on Romney pretty hard at one of the debates when Romney said Waterboarding might not be a form of torture.
      • Swarms, on 05/01/2008, -2/+2Stupid side note, you and the original poster both used the wrong for of except/accept. I don't know why I do this.
    • thescimitar, on 05/01/2008, -5/+6I voted for McCain in 2000 but certainly would not do so now, specifically because of his "finding god." Not because I have a problem with someone discovering a faith or cause, but because this is so clearly pandering to the religious conservative vote. It blows my mind that when politicians in this country suddenly start shooting guns, praising Jesus, demanding tax cuts, universal healthcare, or whatever liberal or conservative phase of the day might be, PEOPLE BELIEVE THEM.

      • Pillage, on 05/01/2008, -4/+5And Obama going to Trinity was what? Legit? *****, Obama pandered to the church because it was influential in his voting district. That is the only reason he went to that church, for pure unadulterated political positioning.
        • thescimitar, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3I'm not interested in defending Obama here, but I believe he has attended Trinity for twenty years, and has been running for President for two years. That's significantly different from the McCain example. Moreover, Trinity Church is located in Illinois' 1st Congressional district. Barack Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate from the 13th. Granted, they are adjacent districts, but Trinity is quite a distance from the 13th.
    • rewinn, on 05/01/2008, -2/+8Technically, McCain SAYS he's against torture. And he should know by personal experience that torture doesn't yield good intel.
      But how does he VOTE?
      He had the chance to vote for a law forbidding the CIA to torture (arguably, it's already illegal but since Bush was ignoring that law, Congress tried to pass an additional law.) McCain voted not to outlaw torture.
      Actions speak louder than words.
    • swrostmore, on 05/01/2008, -4/+6Wright's ideology has nothing to do with the issues Obama is campaigning on. In fact they couldn't be more opposite. On the other hand, Hagee's ideology has everything to do with the issues McCain is campaigning on, as evidenced by McCain's courting of Hagee "so evangelicals would vote for him."
      No, its not an exact 1 to 1 comparison. Obviously Hagee isn't going to harm McCain at all - since McCain's relationship with him was based on gaining the votes of those who agree with Hagee. Obama supporters just need SOMETHING to hit back on, because their candidate just got solidly ***** by a non-issue amplified by the media (just like Gore, Kerry, and Dean).
      • thescimitar, on 05/01/2008, -2/+1The problem with the Democrats is twofold; firstly, the candidates that have had for the past three elections have been terrible. Vice President Gore has metamorphisized into something of a decent candidate, about a decade too late, but for voters in 2000, he was not a home run. John Kerry doesn't even require commenting upon, a blueblood Massachusetts liberal (n.b. I was raised in MA, and am decidedly liberal)? Come on! You couldn't get him into the oval office if he started handing out hundred dollar bills. The current selection is hardly better: an untried, untested senator from Illinois, or the most divisive human being since ... jeez, I don't even know. The second problem the Democrats have is that they refuse, flat out REFUSE to believe in themselves. They think that they have to believe in every political philosophy out there except for their own. Against the war? Check. Support the war? Check. Against government spending? Check. For government spending? Check. The Dems are a big tent party and should have a big tent philosophy, but their political creedo for the past decade has been, "Let's believe in nothing and hope nobody notices."

        The reason the GOP has done well does indeed have some to do with white fear and demographics... but it has MORE to do with a clear direction. People trend towards order, they want leaders regardless of how poor or ill-informed those leaders might be. If you want to run a country, you've got to show that you can RUN a country.
    • pintomp3, on 05/01/2008, -3/+5On February 29, McCain stated that Hagee "supports what I stand for and believe in." He added that he was "proud" of Hagee's spiritual leadership.
      http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3316

      though hagee isn't mccain's spiritual adviser, rod parsley is:
      http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/200 ...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tViqufbk7I8
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Parsley#Criticism ...
      • RepubOperative, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2John McCain repudiated any views Friday of a prominent televangelist who endorsed him last month "if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics." McCain has come under fire since televangelist John Hagee endorsed him Feb. 27, but until Friday his response had been tepid. But he said Friday he had been hearing from Catholics who find Hagee's comments offensive. Hagee, leader of a San Antonio megachurch, has called the Roman Catholic Church a "false cult system." Hagee's endorsement had been intended to shore up McCain's support among evangelical Christians.

        http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/ny-txtca ...
    • Sogui, on 05/01/2008, -3/+5Hitting McCain's faith or his position on torture would just be stupid. Anyone who actually follows news KNOWS that McCain is about as anti-torture as a candidate can get... and his vote against the "waterboarding" bill was because a previous bill that he authored already made it illegal, and forcing an ARMY handbook onto an INTELLIGENCE agency was just a crude, rushed attempt by democrats to amend a failing bill.

      As for his faith, just because he isn't forcing it down our throat like previous candidate doesn't mean it's contrived, the guy has been faithfully religious since Vietnam and nothing even begins to suggest otherwise, he always says he is private about his faith and if anything represents what DIGG should appreciate in a candidate's religious beliefs, he keeps it to himself.
    • kipmartin, on 05/01/2008, -3/+4because McCain courted Hagee is even more damning than if he'd simply enlisted the aid of a friend. McCain needs to vet these morons first. the fact that he didnt puts him in Nixon (Agnew, Haldermann, Meese, etc) and Bush (Rove, Rumsfeld, Cheney, et al) territory.

      except Nixon want half bad comparatively.
    • sodade, on 05/01/2008, -1/+2Well played sir.
    • Shuukyoku, on 05/01/2008, -2/+4Could we please just get one President who doesn't feel the need to talk back to the voices in their head? I mean, George Bush didn't get successful until he signed up with the Evangelicals, and now McCain is going down the same path of darkness. Look at that and tell me that Christians don't have this country by the political short hairs.
      • oldhick, on 05/01/2008, -1/+2They always have, from its inception... Check out the declaration of independence! Scary, but we'll survive. We're a good people that just need to be motivated.
    • jaxcs, on 05/02/2008, -1/+1if the Hagee charge is bs, then the Wight charge is also. Would Obama have gotten a pass if he knew Wright for only a year? You seem to make this about the length of time in which each candidate knew their respective religious leader but this isn't the issue at all. The greater charge is that Wright is Obama's personal pastor and informs on Obama's personality but if so, no one has yet produced evidence of this. If the claim is that Obama must have known about wright's opinions, it is equally unbelievable that McCain didn't know about Hagee's positions since he actively sought his endorsement. In the end, it boils down to two religious leaders with controversial positions that do not tell us anything meaningful about either candidate or, if you believe this is a most significant matter, then the kiss of death to both. As you say, there are plenty of ways to reject a McCain presidency but the charge of hypocrisy or deceit attached strongly to one candidate and none at all to the other - for doing basically the same thing - is remarkably unfair.
      • oldhick, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1Not knowing the positions of someone you've never met, and not knowing the positions of someone who you've known for 20 years are two different things. You can't wrap your head around that can you?
        Don't worry they're both non-issues as SoulGrub pointed out anyway.
        • jaxcs, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1"If the claim is that Obama must have known about wright's opinions, it is equally unbelievable that McCain didn't know about Hagee's positions since he actively sought his endorsement."
          Quoting myself, I dealt with the issue thusly. McCain isn't dealing with a non public figure's view, he's dealing with a the views of a well known public figure. If you really believe that McCain didn't have a clue as to Hagee's public comments, then his highly paid consultants and staff need to be replaced immediately. Clearly no one on the McCain payroll is doing their job. Didn't anyone on staff even bother to google him? Women these days, routinely do that much prior to agreeing to blind dates. This seems to be something that you can't get your head around.
          • oldhick, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1Gotcha and I see your point. I was coming from the position that McCains campaign folks were thinking "hey, there's a minister in Texas with tons of people who attend his church. If he endorses you you'll get a lot of votes!" and figuring they stopped there. If they did stop there, you are correct in noting they're not too bright. And since it appears thats the case, we can say with some certainty that they're not too bright. Thanks!
    • SoulGrub, on 05/02/2008, -1/+0This point isn't really to attack McCain, the point is to point out that both John Hagee and Reverend Wright are complete non-issues and it's time for the media to drop the subject and move on.
  • NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/01/2008, -18/+20both candidates are liberal, so I don't get the point
    • moolaismyfriend, on 05/01/2008, -14/+6It's ok, I can see you don't get much.
    • kipmartin, on 05/01/2008, -9/+4you wouldnt. nice try at being clever. your turn to STFU.
    • skulljar, on 05/01/2008, -8/+5If you want to see what a conservative looks like, check out Ron Paul. He's still in the race.
    • altgeeky1, on 05/01/2008, -6/+4yeah, McCain is a liberal... compared to Bush or Berlusconi.
      In your avatar, is that little red character actually making a Nazi salute??
      • NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/01/2008, -2/+5Nice low blow, but I'm used to it. McCain is a liberal..... especially when comapred to a conservative. He's like a 1960's Democrat
      • mxmj, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2Bush is a conservative? I seem to recall a very, very, large expansion of the federal government over the last 8 years.
    • homercles337, on 05/01/2008, -5/+3Both liberals eh? You are clearly so far to the right that you could pull your head out of your ass, take a left from Iowa, another left at Tejas, and one more left around FL and you would still be a crazy rightwing whack job. Congrats on that.
      • NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/01/2008, -2/+5How is McCain conservative.... he wants to stay in Iraq longer than the others? Because that's the only thing I can come up with.... although I can't remember what he thinks about abortion not that I care.
        • moolaismyfriend, on 05/01/2008, -7/+2No because you are trash, and gutter culture.
    • Kizilbash, on 05/01/2008, -3/+1Actually all 3 of them are right of center. McCain is ***** insane extreme right, Obama is center right and Hillary is somewhere in between.
      • NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2Definitely, that's why I want to vote moderate..... which is apparently Ralph Nader, Dennis Kusinsnatch, Barbara Boxer, etc....
  • THETEH, on 05/01/2008, -6/+24The media is making this Wright ***** out to be the most important issue of the 2008 election. I could have sworn that there were some issues that mattered a bit more than what Obama or McCain's pastors/friends/old busdrivers have said in the past. This is ridiculous.
    • wacki, on 05/01/2008, -1/+4Obama used this man, who claims the US invented what was originally called 'Gay-related immune deficiency' to kill black people, as a spiritual adviser for 20 years. I don't know about you, but most people don't use spiritual advisers as taxi cab drivers. Spiritual advisers are professionals that give you professional advice on life. Obama decided that Wright would be his *sole professional-spiritual* adviser for 20 years. Like it or not, in most situations, it says a lot about ones core beliefs.
  • fuhlavaflave, on 05/01/2008, -9/+9No one gives a ***** about McCain's campaign at this point. Why give equal time to an issue that doesn't interest the american public? The battle right now is between Obama and Hillary. Stop crying.
  • The_Red_Monkey, on 05/01/2008, -8/+35Hagee was not a member of McCain's campaign, he was not his spiritual adviser and McCain was not a member of his church for 20 years and Hagee did not marry McCain and his wife and did not baptize his kids and did not inspire the name for McCain's book.
    • WasabiBomb, on 05/01/2008, -7/+4... And McCain still hasn't rejected Hagee's support. I guess getting elected is more important to him.
      • Pillage, on 05/01/2008, -2/+4"I can no more disown him [wright] than I can my white grandmother"
        • WasabiBomb, on 05/01/2008, -1/+2"All I can tell you is that I am very proud to have Pastor John Hagee's support.''
        • RepubOperative, on 05/02/2008, -2/+3At a Houston Town Hall meeting immediately after the endorsement, McCain had this to say:

          1) "Yesterday, Pastor John Hagee endorsed my candidacy for president in San Antonio, Texas. However, in no way did I intend for his endorsement to suggest that I in turn agree with all of Pastor Hagee’s views, which I obviously do not."


          2) John McCain repudiated any views Friday of a prominent televangelist who endorsed him last month "if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics." McCain has come under fire since televangelist John Hagee endorsed him Feb. 27, but until Friday his response had been tepid. But he said Friday he had been hearing from Catholics who find Hagee's comments offensive. Hagee, leader of a San Antonio megachurch, has called the Roman Catholic Church a "false cult system." Hagee's endorsement had been intended to shore up McCain's support among evangelical Christians.

          3) Mr. McCain, who does not talk about religion publicly, has a rocky history with conservative Christians. Eight years ago, he called the Rev. Jerry Falwell and the Rev. Pat Robertson “agents of intolerance.”

          As recently as last week, James C. Dobson of Focus on the Family criticized Mr. McCain in an opinion article in The Wall Street Journal for his unwillingness to support a federal amendment against same-sex marriage and to oppose federal financing for stem cell research.

          Links
          http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/ny-txtca ...

          • WasabiBomb, on 05/02/2008, -2/+1That's fine. It's also very similar to what Obama said about Wright.
            However, not a single one of those links officially cut ties with Hagee. McCain is still enjoying political support from him He didn't reject that support- he just said the least possible in order to keep Hagee's followers. Obama was forced to cut ties with Wright completely.
            In my mind, what Hagee has said is far worse than what Wright said, anyway- Wright, at least, has a bit of an excuse to be distrustful of whites. Was Hagee enslaved by Catholics or homosexuals?
            This is just another example of McCain doing whatever it takes, saying whatever it takes, to get as many votes as possible.... even going so far as to denounce what Hagee's saying (but still doing his best to keep those who believe what Hagee says).
            I'd gain a lot more respect for McCain if he were to say, "Due to my disagreements with Pastor John Hagee, I feel that I am forced to part ways with him."
          • amightywind, on 05/02/2008, -1/+2Wright was never enslaved by whites, indeed, his physical appearance would suggest that his daddy was a honky. Why does he have a chip on his shoulder? He is free to peddle his craziness and hate and make a good living doing it. What a country! But Obama's long, close relationship with this lunatic does matter to me. Despite his denials he could not be ignorant of Wright's racial poison. Hagee is just another McCain supporter. They have no close relationship. Your liberal argument of equivalence fails. Why do you bother posting your silly ideas?
  • Hetman, on 05/01/2008, -10/+5There is a double standard. But maybe the reason why Hagee got away with it is because their is still a lot of hate in this country towards Gay people. Coupled with the fact that they are the smallest minority in the country. And hating on Gays is common place it does not bring in as many viewers as hating on white people.
    • skulljar, on 05/01/2008, -3/+1Maybe the news doesn't see the $$$ signs in running stories about McPain right now? Maybe that's because everyone is looking at the Democratic candidates and talking about them right now and don't pay much attention to McPain? Maybe because he's a joke?
      Yes.
      Good answer.
  • Jovensdesciple, on 05/01/2008, -9/+13Shut up Obama trail and fault deniers. For every weak/lame article I read on how stuff isn't fair for Obama I ignore a real article on how Obama might not be a bad guy. He's never accomplished anything, and his wife and pastor suck. Double sit on that.
    • kipmartin, on 05/01/2008, -5/+2you better read up on his senate record. it is pretty impressive. his list of accomplishments exceeds yours by a mile, im sure.
      • knumbknuts, on 05/01/2008, -1/+3On the upside, it's a hell of quick read.
      • Idiggapony, on 05/01/2008, -2/+1Oh yeah, kipmartin, well, you better read up on who you're messing with. It so happens that Jovensdesciple has a great number of extraordinary accomplishments to his name. For example, Jovensdesciple knows what his pastor has been saying and doing for the past twenty years while Jovensdesciple has been attending his weekly sermons, reading his weekly newsletters, and writing best-selling books about him.
  • jmpeagle, on 05/01/2008, -3/+13an endorsement from a crazy Christian is more harmful to a democrat than to a Republican. GOP candidates loves getting endorsement from people like Jerry Falwell, but that would be almost political suicide for a Democrat. Obama's pastor is news, McCain's isn't.
    • Hetman, on 05/01/2008, -1/+5I agree also. The republicans pander to the Evangelists. It is one of the biggest voting blocks in america. And they vote in number and always vote for who gets endorsed by their leading pastor at the time. Be it Hagees or farwell when he was a live.
      • RepubOperative, on 05/02/2008, -2/+1The following information relates to John McCain's church. McCain lives in Phoenix, Arizona.

        John McCain attends North Phoenix Baptist Church.
        http://www.npbc.org/

        Pastors at McCain's church
        http://www.npbc.org/?link=6&sublink=10&_inc=whoiso ...

        Mr. McCain, who does not talk about religion publicly, has a rocky history with conservative Christians. Eight years ago, he called the Rev. Jerry Falwell and the Rev. Pat Robertson “agents of intolerance.”
  • jiqiren, on 05/01/2008, -1/+10The New York Times and The Washington Post want to sell more papers and get generate more traffic on their websites. Talking trash about McCain isn't going to help them increase the number of "non-liberal readers"... and it isn't like all the "liberal readers" are going to move on to foxnews.com from all the bad Obama press...
    • sodade, on 05/01/2008, -0/+3I think you are on to something here. There are no conspiracies - just follow the money.
  • shyboy2008, on 05/01/2008, -5/+3Rev. Wright and Obama = black on black crime
  • ghat2008, on 05/01/2008, -3/+5Well, Washington Post and NY Times just take advantage of this issue and try to sell more papers.
  • Idiggapony, on 05/01/2008, -5/+26This is totally absurd. Digg's abundant Obama supporters have, apparently, gone completely off of the deep end.

    Hagee isn't McCain's pastor. He's a far-right evangelical pastor who endorsed McCain. I'm sure a lot of very bad people have endorsed both candidates. McCain reportedly sought Hagee's endorsement actively, and I think less of him because of that. But the comparison with Obama and Wright is absolutely, positively, 100% ridiculous, and the Obamatons only make themselves and their candidate look weaker by trying to invent some kind of similarity.

    A few comments above, oldhick posted some potential attacks on McCain that would make a lot more sense. Why not try some of those?
    • moolaismyfriend, on 05/01/2008, -3/+4Why did McCain say he welcomed his support?

      Because McCain hates gay people.

      Why does John McCain hate gay Americans?
      • Idiggapony, on 05/01/2008, -1/+5Why did McCain say he welcomed Hagee's support? Because McCain is a moderate politician who was not popular with the far-right Republican base, as a result of his centrist positions on a number of issues, including his support for gay rights. In order to try to make himself more popular with the Republican base, and therefore better positioned to win the Republican primary, McCain suddenly started pandering to the party's evangelical constituency.

        Seriously, "the far-right extremist" approach is just not a fruitful way to go attacking McCain. He's just not that candidate.
      • flip2trip, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1Hagee supported McCain for one reason--Israel.
    • cubicledrone, on 05/01/2008, -0/+5What's the current real unemployment rate? Why has the average inflation-adjusted wage decreased in the U.S. since 1972? Can we talk about the ***** this country has become and fix it, please, instead of inventing more names to call the "right" and "left?" Right vs. left is what is ***** this country up.
      • flip2trip, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1"Why has the average inflation-adjusted wage decreased in the U.S. since 1972?"
        I assume you are using the CPI to calculate this? You do know that the CPI is not an accurate indicator because it over states the amount of inflation we've experienced? You do know that the standard of living is so much higher than 30 years ago?
  • Sogui, on 05/01/2008, -6/+9Like someone said above, one was his spiritual mentor for 20 years, the other was a Televangelist that McCain barely knew, met with once to discuss the endorsement and McCain's position on Israel... and then has distanced himself with ever since after admitting he didn't do enough research.

    McCain just wanted more support from the right and picked out a bad apple of a pastor without doing his research, that's entirely different from what's happening with Obama and Wright. Not to say that that isn't overblown either.

    The reason it's not "all over the news" is because there's no story here, the news cycle behind this story has already taken its course... the NYT has already proven that if there's even a hint of scandal with McCain that they'll publish it... so there must literally be no merit left to this story for them not to have covered it any further.
  • DaDrake, on 05/01/2008, -3/+5Could someone show me how we know McCain actively seeked his Hagee's endorsement. All I can find is a quote from Hagee saying a McCain staffer called him (although, no report of McCain confirming this). Furthermore, I can't find McCain advertising his endorsement from Hagee (inorder to get moer votes). Finally, over six months ago I found a quote from McCain saying he does not share Hagee views (when a reporter asked why Hagee endorsed him). It hardly makes sense for McCain to activly seek Hagee endorsement and never bother using it to get votes or money. The more I read about this story.... the more I think Hagee just wanted to endorse McCain and McCain knew nothing about the guy.
  • petebot, on 05/01/2008, -3/+4Goddamit I am sooooo bored with this.
    • Laughsatyou, on 05/01/2008, -1/+2more fun to watch obama bots cry foul, then do the same thing to the opposition.
  • LastVisibleDog, on 05/01/2008, -3/+8This is one of the reasons it looks more and more like McCain will be our next president. Seems all the Democrat Party has to offer is male bovine fecal matter. Given Bush's record, this should not even be close - but leave it to the Democrat party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Clue to the clueless lefties: Obama has being going the Wrights church for 20 fricken years, Wright married Obama (and his wife), and Obama even titled the book about his life from a speech made by Wright. Hagee is one of tens of thousands that endorse McCain.

    Lefties - get a clue and try again
    (MediaMatters is a leftist propaganda organization funded by Hillary to smear all things non-left-wing)
    • swrostmore, on 05/01/2008, -0/+4I thought it was funded by the Antichrist, George Soros
      • LastVisibleDog, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2Him too. (Although I did not know Soros was the Antichrist)

        "putting together a network in the blogosphere and a lot of the new progressive infrastructure, institutions that I helped start and support like Media Matters and the Center for American Progress" - Hillary Clinton
    • rexreason, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1Goddamnit, for the last time, it's the "Democratic Party," not the "Democrat Party."
  • sodade, on 05/01/2008, -3/+2Can't we all just agree to bury both Wright and Hagee related crap? They are both douchebags, but we are gonna get one of these candidates and I want to see ***** details and hear promises. At this point, I don't ***** care what skeletons the MSM cares to digg up - I'm burying it. What the ***** are you going to do with this sinking ship once you get in office? That's all I care about. Isn't it time for some ***** pragmatism?

    (I'm gonna keep posting this until we can all just decide to shut the ***** up about it)
  • pintomp3, on 05/01/2008, -6/+3i had a lot of respect for mccain back in 2000. but his pandering to the religious right is just disgusting. so much for the straight-talk express.
  • chrissku, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2The media is biased? (Guess what..the public isn't stupid and we know the media is biased)


    That's why you have to be prepared to shovel through the ***** anytime you read a news article or watch a newscast.
    • bignerd, on 05/01/2008, -1/+1"Guess what..the public isn't stupid and we know the media is biased"
      /false
    • Kizilbash, on 05/01/2008, -1/+3The public is immensely stupid.
  • DrTreez, on 05/01/2008, -0/+4All these statistics show is that Obama vs. Hillary is more newsworthy than McCain at the moment. McCain will get is chance in the spotlight soon enough.
  • pintomp3, on 05/01/2008, -2/+1more interesting is how much influence hagee has on our foreign policy vs wright. hagee and rod parsley (mccain's spiritual adviser) are end-times dominionists who are urging to bring on the end of the world and the rapture. bill moyer did a piece on hagee and CUFI:
    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/profile ...
    hateful speech is one thing. when you mix that with political influence you have another beast altogether.
  • NelsonR, on 05/01/2008, -0/+3Just look at the PUNDITS on T.V. Pat Buchanan, James Carvile, Matilin Carvile, Hannity and Colmes (Can't count Colmes, pathetic) the media does not want Change or hope, they want the status to stay the same, they are part of the upper crust that act righteous and fair.
    All supposed preachers, priest, rabbi's, Imams etc. are human with human frailties but try and tell a religious person that? They are not saints, they are not pious yet they intrude into the political arena. Simple solution, start taxing the religious organizations who delve within politics and I mean in any fashion whatsoever. TAX THEM. Hell, some will say, "HOLD ON THERE", how am I going to go to heaven if I tax my church? My answer, instead of avowing piety be pious and your god will be next to you in the end. Sick of hearing about Wright, sick of our media's bias's, sick of all the sanctimonious crap intruded into our lives without the news really being fair and balanced. No pun intended, O"Reilly is a joke and phone sick.
  • Pillage, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2What ever happened to no coverage is bad coverage?
  • Troika37, on 05/01/2008, -2/+7So Johnny Mac spent 20 years going to this guy's church? He had his kids baptized by him? How about his wedding? This guy SURELY performed that, right?

    wait... it's just that double-standard again.
  • pintomp3, on 05/01/2008, -2/+5one guy said 9/11 was a result of our aggressive and interventionist for foreign policy. the other guy said it was because of the gays. who's the crazy one again?
    • Hetman, on 05/01/2008, -2/+1I do not think that is the quote people have a problem with. I think it is where he said whites created aids gave it to black people, and whites are sending drugs into the inner city to destroy urban youth. If there is anyone sending coke into the inner city it is the columbians not americans.
      • pintomp3, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2he didn't say white people created it, he said the government did. the context was that government's lie:
        “The government lied about the Tuskegee experiment. They purposely infected African American men with syphilis. Governments lie. The government lied about bombing Cambodia and Richard Nixon stood in front of the camera, ‘Let me make myself perfectly clear…’ Governments lie. The government lied about the drugs for arms Contra scheme orchestrated by Oliver North, and then the government pardoned all the perpetrators so they could get better jobs in the government. Governments lie. The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. Governments lie. The government lied about a connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein and a connection between 9.11.01 and Operation Iraqi Freedom. Governments lie.”[

        what exactly is the context for saying tolerance of gays caused 9/11?
    • JointVenture, on 05/01/2008, -3/+1He also said,

      Blacks, by contrast, cannot sit still in class or learn from quiet study, and they have difficulty learning from "objects" — books, for example — but instead learn from "subjects," such as rap lyrics on the radio.
      -Rev Wright at NAACP.

      So basically hes saying black kids are dumb and cant learn from all that "book learnin".

      I guess you're right, Rev Wright is the man, and I believe everything he says.
  • xen0blue, on 05/01/2008, -1/+4this coming from media matters. and anyone who doesn't think the washington post and NY times isn't liberal biased is fooling themselves
  • victordelprete, on 05/01/2008, -0/+4This is nothing compared to what they did burying Ron Paul. The news isn't news, it's propaganda, and the sooner everyone figures that out the better.
  • MikeFallopian, on 05/01/2008, -2/+31) McCain and Hagee have no relationship. His people talked to Hagee's people and asked the guy to endorse him; that's pretty minor stuff compared to Obama/Wright.
    2) The big political race right now is Obama-Clinton, so obviously the media will focus on them more than McCain.
    3) Obama, unlike McCain, has frequently cited the importance of church and faith to him personally. If he's going to make his church a campaign issue, then he has to deal with its negative aspects as well.

    I personally don't care about Obama/Wright all that much. But to suggest that the media should be giving equal time to Hagee is absurd. I see the "outrage" over Hagee as being very cynical and manufactured.
  • omnis, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1Probably because since the end of February, McCain has had the republican nomination pretty much locked up. The media talks more about Obama and Hillary because this is where the action is. Nobody is going to care too much about McCain until the democrats pick a candidate for the general election.
  • CannedMango, on 05/01/2008, -3/+2Forget those two newspapers, the entire media displays this same bias. It's a sad state of affairs.
  • JointVenture, on 05/01/2008, -1/+1I was talking to a guy from the 9th ward today and he told me that his "cuz" was in the unit of the army that blew up the levee.

    So why am I not surprised that the same demographic that jumped for joy when OJ simpson got off is going to ignore and dismiss Rev Wright as an issue.

    These are are the same people that truly do believe that black people think with a different part of the brain, and cant sit still in class.

    "Blacks, by contrast, cannot sit still in class or learn from quiet study, and they have difficulty learning from "objects" — books, for example — but instead learn from "subjects," such as rap lyrics on the radio."
    -REV WRIGHT at the NAACP last weekend.



    Why should I care wtf these people think if they are ignorant enough to believe that black people are born dumb, and unable to learn from books.
  • whatthefu, on 05/01/2008, -1/+1Why are they targeting just the Post and the Times? You do realize that if 24-hour cable news networks didn't exist, papers wouldn't feel obligated to report on "hot issues" that ***** morons on CNN, FOX News and MSNBC talk about for hours each day, right?
  • charmaniac, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2Mainstream Media: Lying themselves into irrelevancy.
  • HaloZero, on 05/01/2008, -1/+2Anti-White comments > anti-catholic comments
  • mabenson, on 05/01/2008, -1/+31. McCain had won a week after they started counting, while the democrats are still fighting. Makes more sense to talk about Obama.
    2. Theres a big difference between a terrible pastor endorsing McCain and a terrible pastor being one of Obama's most trusted friends.
  • ecarver530, on 05/01/2008, -1/+2this is so irritating. Hagee has not been McCain's pastor, close friend and almost family, mentor and adviser for 20 years. The idea you can compare the 2 is just absurd. Furthermore, McCain's record clearly proves he does not feel the same way as Hagee, but Obama's measly 2 years in the senate barely proves anything.
  • ColonelTribune, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1Interesting story. Although the Colonel would never take a shot at his media colleagues or anything...
  • oldgal, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1If this is how people are deciding who to vote for the country is in bigger trouble than I thought. Reminds me a lot of how Kerry got swift-boated as unpatriotic for serving his country in a war that he later protested; a war that today no one believes was a good idea. G.W. joined the National Guard which at the time was the official way to duck the draft if you had enough family pull to get in. Actually I think both of them are patriotic and of good character as are McCain and Obama. This garbage is a waste of time.
  • averagejoesgym, on 05/02/2008, -0/+0I'm not knocking any group or race on this so let's not get all sensitive about this. It is human nature to be on your guard about your own reputation and status more than the reputation and status of others. White heterosexuals dominate the mainstream media. Aside from Jeremiah Wright in particular, it is natural that at a personal level they should get uncomfortable with an aggressive minority who, directly or indirectly, questions their race and/or power structures. I admittedly have not researched this, but I'll bet BET has been alot more sympathetic to Jeremiah Wright than have the rest of the mainsteam media. So, I agree with all those here who think the mismatch of coverage is unprofessional and ridiculous. I just wanted to share my thoughts on what I believe to be a major factor influencing the coverage.
  • JurisAnonimus, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2WTF?? This story makes no sense. How does a mere endoresment from a televangilist equate to having a specific pastor for 20 years? I see how mediamatters.org is trying to mislead everyone. And it has worked. Lots of suckers in this thread.
    I endorse Obama, but we should win on the merits, not based upon dishonesty. Mediamatters.org is trash.
  • Kethlar, on 05/02/2008, -1/+0I don't see why people are still acting like this.. Really I have had no real problems with Vista at all and if I do I either just don't care and deal with it and just keep enjoying my new OS.
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