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War on Terror Is Now War on Human Rights, Says Group

cnsnews.com — The head of an international human rights group Friday charged that the war against terror had transformed itself into a war against human rights.

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  • joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -6/+46@mrfoos2

    What about those of us that don't avoid drugs and contribute to society at least as much as those who do avoid them?

    The fact of the matter is the government is attempting to control people far beyond the level required for everyone to live contently together.

    The 'War on drugs' is even more a war on human rights, because the targets of it aren't out to hurt anybody. And if you want to give me some crap about drug dealers with guns, you have to realize that 90% of those locked up in the war on drugs are kids with a few grams of weed, out to hurt nobody just having a good time. Additionally, if drugs are legal, then we won't have drug dealers like that in the first place.

    During prohibition bootleggers and the mob created a huge economy of violence around alcohol, and now that it's legal again? No booze related crime. Same thing would happen if we dropped this 'War on drugs'.
  • hipnerd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22@mrfoos: "Since when did the defense of illegals, criminals, druggies, insane and the slothful become the standard for "human rights"? "

    "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all." —H. L. Mencken
  • jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20"How about us that obey the law, go to work, avoid drugs, pay our taxes, and contribute to society in a positive way?"

    Go to work at an unlivable wage?
    Avoid mood alterering drugs not made by Pfizer, Merck, Bayer?
    Pay those reaonable taxes on every little aspect of our lives that get kicked back to major corporations instead of invested in our infrastructure?
    Contribute to society by fighting anyone who mentions improving social conditions?
  • populist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14well, this IS the "political news" section. war is big politics, race ....well, eh. politicians like to USE race to aggrandize themselves. it's all politics. you might want to read some other section on digg if you don't like politics.
  • RedHerringHack, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19The enemy is using our own morality against us. We as AMERICANS are held to a higher standard
    than any other country in the world. To our enemy, a single act of torture is equivalent to their decades
    of murder.

    We could have walked into Iraq and killed everything that moved. We didn't. Compare and Contrast.
  • eggo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15I remember back when America was cool. It was a young, hip rebel who thumbed its nose at the stodgy European ***** across the sea. It was all like "Get off my back, England! You aren't my real dad! I wish the Roman Republic was my father!" Then it started going out with France, but then she went crazy and America was all "***** that silly bitch." After that it was just America, hanging out, being cool. Sure there was Canada, and he was a swell guy, but he just wasn't cool enough to ride with the USA. And Mexico? Everything was cool until it started stirring up some ***** and America had to ride down there on its souped up Harley and beat the ***** out of it with an empty bottle of Jager. Okay, America went through a crazy phase not long after that and tried to kill itself, but it emerged from that struggle a stronger, and more adult nation.

    But then it started hanging out with Europe again, and it's been downhill ever since.
  • lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16"Islamist should be able to behead anyone who does not agree with them."

    Did you ever consider that the human rights that are being warred against are your own rights? Because of the patriot act, the government can raid your house on a whim now. I suppose it doesn't matter to you that our government has been caught red handed, illegally spying on americans. If they don't want to be held back by US laws of treating human beings with respect, they just send them over to Guantanamo bay. After all, if people aren't on american soil, they don't have to be treated like human beings!
  • WarpFox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14@joes

    The gun toting dealers are moot, if drugs were legal they would dissapear overnight. all drug related turf wars, cartels and their leaders like pablo escavar, drug related drive-by's and innocent people dying as a result- would all vanish.

    But no, people die and go to jail... over flowers that grow in the dirt. good job.
  • chrisjj, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22Absolutely.
    I've never heard of CNS News - it's a shame it's not on CNN. Of course this will never go mainstream because it is just too difficult to admit that we're actually pursuing a policy that violates human rights according to international standards.
  • thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@byrom

    I don't think you really understand what the US Military truly COULD have done.

    We have the ability to obliterate cities with a handful bombs
    We have the ability to perform missions at night and hunt down people based on their own heat.
    We have planes that can deliver mountains of standard munitions and cover an entire city
    We have the ability to completely cutoff cities from any outside support and watch people starve
    We HAVE many frieghtening abilites and we CHOOSE not to use them

    What did we do?
    Took great pains (and several casualties) NOT to shoot civilians
    Ensure that the government of Iraq has enough protection to function
    Handed control over to the Iraqi government as soon as possible
    Have been trying to convince people to work for their common good...

    I don't think ANYONE wants to the the US Military unleash it's full capabilites without ANY regard for who's in the way.

    Do you believe the Jihadists would give us the same treatment?

    Before you get on your high horse of indignation... let me remind you of a quote:

    "If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest."
    -- Thomas Jefferson

    "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen."
    -- Sir Winston Churchill

    Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
    -- General George Patton Jr
  • aceg1357, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19Good headline but the article has it backwards. If anything the jihadists are the big human rights abusers. But who wants to talk about the thousands of human rights abuses in Darfur etc when you can Bash the U.S. and Bush?
  • Plotinus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"

  • jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9""Have you threatened to kill his family?" -- President Wayne Palmer"

    Ok, check it...

    TV
    Is
    Not
    Reality
  • miketrin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I am sure there's a way to also blame clinton and carter.
  • ChumpChief, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15I think you mean

    "It's not a war on terror, it's a war on personal freedom, keep that in mind at all times."
  • GRTWHT, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16FTA:
    "What makes the U.S. attack on the idea of human rights so serious is not that we are worse than other countries, but that we have always aspired to be so much better and we have proclaimed continually to the world that we are better.

    "When the world's superpower and its greatest democracy openly defends its own gross violations of human rights it sends the most powerful message to dictators and killers around the world," Cox said.
  • jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19"yup, Islamist should be able to behead anyone who does not agree with the"

    Ahh good ole neocon auto response bot.
  • thundacracka, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Last time I checked, Fallujah, and Mosul have no oil. If we wanted oil, we would setup a perimeter around the oil fields, convoy routes, and ports and take their freakin' oil.

    If this is a war for oil, where is the oil?
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/11/eveningnews/main525342.shtml

    Without trials how can we really know who is innocent and who isn't? We can torture them all though... how nice.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Haha, how do I get modded down for that?

    We've been in Iraq for 4 years now. Saddam's army is long gone. Do people even think about who we're actually fighting?
  • AmonAmarth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Uh, no. *We* caused that human rights problem.

    You want a real human rights problem? Look at Sudan.
  • joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I'm not sure where we get this 'we have a higher standard' crap from. Does anyone realize that were one of the only remaining first world countries that uses the death penalty? And our restrictions on human rights in the form of religious ideals being forced on unwilling people, while a 'war on drugs' is conducted that wastes taxpayers money and locks up harmless otherwise innocent people?

    I WISH we had a higher standard. The reality is that we've all got our heads so far up our 'we're the greatest nation in the world' asses that we dont' stop to actually compare ourselves to much more progressive European nations.
  • InfidelAl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Someone please explain why this is dugg down?
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11What's the old saying? "Terrorists are what the big army calls the little army"
  • minitrue1984, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6So...how have the following contributed to the promotion of "Human Rights"?

    Al Qaeda
    Al Ansr
    Hamas
    Hezbollah
    Islamic Jihad
    Iran
    PLO
    Saddam Hussein
    Taliban
    Etc....

    Seriously...just got to understand how a "War on Terror" is actually a "War on Human Rights"!
  • SirGunslinger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6People like pointing out the US's flaws because it is easy to. You CAN protest US Policy in the US freely. If you were to go into the middle of Iraq and protest the actions of the insurgency, terrorists, jihadists, or whatever "name of the week". Then you would most likely get killed for your actions.

    The worst human rights abuses in Iraq are not being caused by the US, but by their own people. The Shia, Sunni, and the Kurds are in a 3 way AK circle jerk, and we are stuck in the middle mopping up. The same problem would have happened eventually if Saddam were to die without US intervention.

    Granted, the US has done some bad ***** in history, but before you air out all of the US's dirty laundry... perhaps you should air out other countries or institution's dirty laundry before passing absolute judgement.

    I think what causes the vast amount of the world's problems is a lack of accountability. The current executive administration in the US was unaccountable for 6 years (the're starting to have to answer for alot of their mistakes), and see what happens. The UN is unaccountable for over 50 years, and see what THAT administration looks like (It's really bad when UN oversight commitees can be brushed aside, and their reports stricken from records). =).

    I will probally get flamed or dugg down since blindly blaming America without cause for everything from famine to herpes is trendy.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14So we're gonna go after China then?
  • marspidey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@Lucidone

    "The war on terror is a HOAX people." ... "It's all a SCAM! Come on you can figure it out!"

    So I should just ignore all those people that get killed by suicide bombers? What about the beheadings of innocent civilians? Who else is going to be the world police and show some backbone against these extremists? France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Russia?
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6a least you still buy bullets at wal-mart.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@lucidone
    And the Dems have done such a damn fine job.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5How and where endofdayz? Are you saying we should just stand here and take each hit? Turn the other cheek? Even Jesus cut loose a couple of times.
  • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Because it is uncomfortable and true.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Oh I can see infringes on personal liberties at work alright. 1st amendment primarily. Mainly because of whiny thin skinned whiny people. Look what's happened Imus. I'm not a fan of his, but whiny Al and Jesse, who need to keep up a victim mentality, are stomping all over him. So yeah, but not because of the government. You sound like you're suffering from white man's guilt, and that's a shame because you're being taken advantaged of my friend. And if things haven't gotten worse, what would it take for it to get better? More freedoms? Like what?
  • marspidey, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@Lucidone

    If you don't like America go to Sudan and see how it is there.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yep. I'm a blasphemer and an infidel. I actually have the UNMITIGATED GALL to actually call you on the ridiculous accusations you make. Neo = New Conservative. Actually, I'd prefer a return to traditional values. But I know stuff like that makes people like you itch. Call me what you will, the only thing I've done is actually refute your ranting. If you hate it here so much, why not move to a more socially enlightened country? Maybe France would be more to your liking. I mean, the European economy is absolutely booming and they have such liberal political beliefs. And while you're there, you could try living as a Muslim since that's where they're heading. How about that?
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7You're pretty ***** stupid. Just hope you realize that :)
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What's wrong with a little perspective? As disgusting and cruel as Gitmo is, we haven't sawed off any heads recently. Further, when bad stuff does come to light, like Abu Gharib, we punish the offenders and send them to jail. This is opposed to the terrorists we are fighting against who slaughter without mercy, then praise themselves as holy men for the innocent lives they took.
  • marspidey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I agree with you. There needs to be some accountablilty but it should hinder the obvious good (removing murdering dictators and stopping suicide bombers).
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Not necessarily a bible addict, but I am studying it. Proof is subjective in this day and age. It doesn't matter anymore because no matter what proof you present, someone will always accuse you of lying. The unfortunate thing about this war on terror is we are not dealing with a nation state. We are fighting against an ideology and ideologies are almost impossible to fight against. We are also dealing with people who have absolutely no problems hiding out amongst civilians so as to bring our wrath down upon them also. They are masters at the PR war (I cite Hamas vs. Israel), start the fight, lose the battle, get your butt whipped, and still come out on top both strategically and morally. Anyway, I digress. Saddam invaded Kuwait, they plead their case before the UN and still nobody did anything until we led the charge. Remember Osirak? Saddam's attempt at acquiring nuclear weapons? Israel plead it's case before the UN? Satellite recon, aerial recon, ground recon and nobody did anything. Israel turned the reactor into a smoking crater. This is a high stakes game. Israel won't wait for Iran to gain even a gram of fissionable material before they go in because the first proof might be a kiloton detonation over Tel Aviv. The do unto others quote is true. They did unto us:

    1. The first WTC bombing.
    2. German nightclub bombings
    3. The USS Cole
    4. The Nigerian Embassy bombings
    5. 9/11

    I think we swallowed enough.
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7These 'Human Rights Groups' never say anything about terrorists because speaking out against terrorists gets your head cut off.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@lucidone
    Doing research from comic books doesn't count. Also, I never tried to "bully" you or anyone else. I insult you because logic and reason is alien to you. I am not driven by "blind ideology" If anyone is a blind ideologue, it is you. If anyone here is full of hate, it is you. Not me, I love my country, I loved those people that died when the towers came down. I Loved those people on the plane that hit the pentagon and I love the heroes that took the plane down in Pennsylvania. You on the other hand, would use their deaths, to push forward your warped agenda. You politicize the deaths of 3000+ people, just to see your radical ideals pushed forward. You trivialize the deaths of 3000 people, just so you can feel relevant to society.
    I know, you are going to argue that it is because of your sadness over the people who died on 911 that you want to see the "truth" come out. But the truth is this; You hate George Bush, Dick Cheney and everyone else in the current administration. you hate them so much, that you are willing to use the greatest tragedy in American history, to embarrass them, to bring them down. You don't really care about any truth, other than the one you've concocted in that sick mind of yours.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Ladycomet, no offense, but either you're incredibly naive (idealist) or just a nit (leftist). How many terrorist attacks on American soil would you allow before you decided to strike back? Or would you just sit there and let it happen because in your mind, "we deserve it"?
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow pandira, I think I'm actually speechless. I think you would have even rendered the Founding Fathers at a loss for words. Although, dare I say, you and I might actually agree on more than you might think. Call it agreeing from opposite sides of the argument. Don't get me wrong, I still think your somewhat nuts, but I admire your tenacity. We both believe in the Constitution, we both believe in the United States of America, we both believe that this country is in serious trouble. However, thats where our common path begins to diverge. I do believe that this country is rotting from within, just like the Roman Empire. A democracy never lasts because it's citizens begin to take what has been given to them for granted. They become lazy, complacent, and condescending. We're currently in the latter two. However, unlike you, I think we can alter course if enough people would start paying attention to the world. That is no easy task when someone such as yourself begins spewing nonsense. Suddenly someone who was paying attention reads or listens to someone like you and they just shake their head and turn the page. You can quote the Constitution, great! I can quote Star Wars, whoopee. You need to put it all in context. You say prove 9/11 wasn't an inside job. I say prove that it was. You won't convince me anymore than I could convince you, but the difference is my sources have a great deal more credibility than yours. And that's what it all comes down to. Like in any courtroom, credibility. Truth may be based in facts, but in the end it's all subjective.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dude, you know what? You will never be happy. The Constitution is what it is, and for now, it is what the law interprets it as. Am I happy with it? Some of it yes, some of no. But that's what we have, and it's better than any where in the world. There's no place I'd rather live because God blessed me by putting me here. Good luck with your revolution. Vaya con dios!
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You should volunteer for anal cavity searches then.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Well said! Diggs for you!
  • bledbetter, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@dayz,

    You'd be hard-pressed to find examples of "Western" abuses as bad as the ones I rounded up in my little article. (Hint: Gitmo ain't even _close_.)

    Regards,
    B.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Now I know why you are a lonelymiddle1. Allow me to salute you with my lonelymiddle1 finger...the only reason liberals love to bash America is because they're free to do so here. If someone tries to stop them or calls them on it they simply respond by:

    1. Calling you racist.
    2. Calling you intolerant.
    3. Calling you a Facist.
    4. Use profanity about you, your family, and your lineage.

    Liberals are all about talking, no action, just talking. One problem, you can't talk with someone who's only goal is to kill you, your family, and your friends. You can't talk with someone who's only wish is to see everything you represent drown in a sea of blood. You are dealing with a cult that believes in rewarding murder with 72 virgins, sexual ecstasy, and unlimited dates. Liberals are about hugs and Kumbaya.

  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pandira, you might want to check out:

    www.weatherwars.info

  • LucidOne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Gunslinger, I agree with you to a point. I for one do NOT enjoy pointing out America's flaws though. And they are NOT America's flaws anyway, they are the flaws of individuals or administrations. There's a big difference! We must constantly question what is being done by our elected officials. It doesn't mean we hate America, just means we are keeping our "employees" in line! Someone once said "Constant vigilance is the cost of freedom!" It applies now more than ever!
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