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Wanna help planet? 'Let's all just die!'

worldnetdaily.com — Group pushes to improve Earth's ecosystem by ensuring human species does not survive

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  • brothaslide, on 05/12/2008, -5/+25Such an evil and insane proposition. My fear is that this concept might actually get traction with over zealous environmentalists.
    • powerclam, on 05/12/2008, -3/+11My objection is that the meme might poison youth who are gullible but not yet crazy.
      San Fran Hippies and their ilk are welcome to take themselves out of The Equation, but stop recruiting.
    • mcrunch2, on 05/12/2008, -2/+12The only problem is when they try to make it mandatory for everyone else.
    • jmayson, on 05/12/2008, -7/+9Why is it evil and where in the article did it say anything about mandatory? Remember folks it's VOLUNTARY human extinction!!
      • chickenbig, on 05/12/2008, -2/+6Good enough...step right up, you first!
        • Terr01, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4Did you RTFA? It's not suicide, it's just not having children. (Of course, this worked so well for the Shakers...)
        • alkajazz, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3You mean the quakers?
          • LadyAmerica, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3No, the Shakers. They died out 'cause they didn't reproduce.
          • Taquoshi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3No, there are still one or two around. I thought they were completely gone, too, but was recently told that there are still a few around. Maybe these group could join the Shakers and revive the community. They made fabulous wooden boxes and had a dye system that scientist still can't figure out.
    • ROaks, on 05/12/2008, -3/+6This could be funny. However, look how many have taken up the cause of Gore. So anything is possible. In reality though, this is one story that should have never seen the light of day, since it has no chance of ever really coming to fruition. It is hard to believe such stupidty exists.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5It has already come to fruition in Germany. They are paying people to have children because there isn't anywhere near enough people in the rising generation to support the country.
      • Taquoshi, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Maybe that is why the German government is taking the custody of the children away from parents who homeschool.
  • LoneRanger85, on 05/12/2008, -6/+25Hey, I'm all for this plan. Imagine the paradise this world will become once the nut-job gene is removed from the human gene pool.
    • janknepper, on 05/12/2008, -1/+9Exactly my thought!
      It is almost like that joke about the Shaker-religion who died out as they did not believe in sex.
      Brilliant! Total stupidity towards they end.
      • ThoughtfulWi, on 05/13/2008, -5/+2"Once the nutjob gene is removed from the human gene pool." So, there will be no one left whose ancestors voted for George Bush? Well yeah, W has certainly done his part for human extinction.
        • LadyAmerica, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3You people just can't get beyond the Bush-hatred, can you?
  • rkeyo, on 05/12/2008, -5/+24This goes beyond politics into pure insanity. I am grateful these wack-jobs are are not reproducing.
    • inboxnews, on 05/12/2008, -6/+8Thank Planned Parenthood for that.
      • anstice85, on 05/12/2008, -4/+7What do Planned Parenthood have to do with this?
        • ROaks, on 05/12/2008, -4/+2Re-read the article and then T - H - I - N - K.
    • Harvester1, on 05/12/2008, -6/+8Too bad they are voting, though.
  • misterkurtz, on 05/12/2008, -6/+13Only in America!
    • DavidS9, on 05/12/2008, -1/+7No, not just America I've read many stories about these morons in Europe. So it's not just us.
    • wilgeno, on 05/12/2008, -0/+9No, this level of insanity is Global and we have to put it down at least once per generation.
      • DavidS9, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1I bet you they are trying to recruit terrorists to help them out alittle
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3In Germany the government is paying people to have children. The idea of reducing the human population by failure to breed caught on there a long time ago. They don't have enough children to support the economy in the future. The country will soon be over-run by immigrants because there aren't enough Germans. It is in Europe much more than in America.
      • DavidS9, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2They should try to import some from China I think they have a kid or 2 to spare
  • mattalice, on 05/12/2008, -8/+16It's just taking the leftist agenda 1 step further. Minimize yourself so you don't do any damage to the environment, or increase global warming, or use oil......

    I mean seriously. Do they think that we make that much of a different to the environment? The dinosaurs probably thought the same thing. We suck we should all just die. Or maybe, just maybe the earth can correct itself because it's the earth. Not something we control.
    • seala, on 05/12/2008, -6/+9If it is an leftist /athiest thing to minimize yourself so you dont damage the environment, is it a Rightist/Christian thing to maximize yourself so you do damage the Environment?
      • JanHus, on 05/12/2008, -2/+4No one ever said anything about an atheist or Christian thing! There are a lot of atheists on the right and Christians on the left too, you know!
        • seala, on 05/12/2008, -2/+5Actually Mattalice said It's just taking the leftist agenda 1 step further and Kaffir said "This is just an outgrowth, or one more step down the path of Atheism" Of course you are right. I am Christian Left or a Christian Eco-Socialist.
      • sbernie, on 05/12/2008, -2/+6It is neither left nor right, it is an elitist attitude.
        • simplewisdom, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4Les Knight, who came up wth the name and slogan, is a University professor. In Oregon. Of course it's leftist. Which is synonomous with elitist. What I say we need is this:
          More sanity and less Knight!
  • dionysiuspetros, on 05/12/2008, -3/+15These people need to have a bumper sticker:
    It meat is murder then plants are people too; so let's starve ourselves to death and become fertilizer for our friends!
  • Bailenforcer, on 05/12/2008, -6/+16This idiot needs to lead by example.

    be the first one to die..
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5He's not suggesting that anyone die. He's suggesting failure to breed, voluntary failure. Why are people so hateful?
      • LadyAmerica, on 05/13/2008, -3/+2If humans don't breed, then humans DIE out!
        • kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3True. But how many of us are actually going to jump on this band wagon and fail to breed?
  • fwelch, on 05/12/2008, -4/+19The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, or VHEMT!

    I agree with them!!!!

    I think all of "VHEMT" should die out!

    That would make room for more good humans..
  • Kaffir, on 05/12/2008, -8/+23Yep, there still are dumb people out there! This is just an outgrowth, or one more step down the path of Atheism, Darwinian so-called "science", and all of the other attempts by wicked men to take God down from His throne, are only attempts to put Man in His sted. It's sad, because it's just a cult of Death!
    Why go down to the grave, when there's eternal life offered to all who will simply believe in God's love, His Son? God made us, He gave us this earth, (we messed up by disobeying, and sinning), and He even has provided for our salvation! What greater love can there be than this?
    . . . and look how we repay this love. The Bible tells of how Jesus reacted to death one day, when his friend, Lazarus had died: "Jesus wept." (John 11:35). He still weeps for those who refuse to come to Him for eternal life.
    Life without God is meaningless, pointless . . . and their proposal only confirms this truth.
    Jesus said: "I Am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father, except by ME." Truth.
    • anstice85, on 05/12/2008, -8/+7This is an incredibly paranoid post.
    • Coven, on 05/12/2008, -9/+6Are you that guy that stands on the street in Times Square with the giant sign and the bullhorn that gets laughed at by all the tourists? You sound like him.
      • Kaffir, on 05/13/2008, -3/+2No, never been there. But, you sound like a Liberal who would make fun of someone like that.
    • shanson13, on 05/12/2008, -3/+6Amen!
    • LadyAmerica, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Kaffir, amen!
  • keltin, on 05/12/2008, -4/+17I am actuly quite uplifted to hear that this group advocates dieing out. Yes, please, guys, start now, why wait and put your body through the incredible abuse of having to breathe air that is suffused with volcano dust, water that is polluted by sitting in mineral-laden groundwater tables for millenia.
    Please give Dr. Kevorkian a call and maybe you can start making a dent on the population by doing it all at once.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3They are not supporting killing anybody, why are you?
  • JimmyMack523, on 05/12/2008, -4/+15This is the most proof anyone will ever need that environmentalism as a movement will never survive. One can only hope that they can convert as many of their like minded colleagues as possible.
    • anstice85, on 05/12/2008, -3/+6Wrong, this is a fringe group of people and in no way reflects the "environmentalism" movement as a whole.
    • mak747, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1Boo-Ya! You took the words right out of my mouth!
  • JanHus, on 05/12/2008, -2/+21Let them do with themselves as they see fit. After all, it is not murder or forced suicide they are advocating. The only danger is that they may eventually resort to using legislation to force those who don't believe as they do to participate in mandatory sterilization.
    • Coven, on 05/12/2008, -7/+5What part of "Voluntary" do you not understand?
      • scubajack, on 05/12/2008, -4/+6the part where it becomes mandatory. like china's one child policy
        • ihateusernames3, on 05/12/2008, -1/+6china's policy would never happen anywhere else. First, it is only a rule in cities where everything is vastly overpopulated, and second, china is an authoritarian regime which can do that
          • LadyAmerica, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1Wanna bet your children's lives on that?
    • JanHus, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Hello? I have no problem with them, as long as they STAY "voluntary." But the philosophy behind their movement is that there are too many people in the world. If they want to make themselves extinct, that's fine. However, someone who subscribes to the idea that there are too many people MAY (not WILL) try to pass mandatory sterilization laws if they feel that their voluntary program does not have enough adherents.
  • PEMDAS, on 05/12/2008, -2/+14Kill yourself, and then I will too. I promise.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Why are so many people promoting suicide. This group doesn't want to kill anyone. They are asking people to voluntarily not have children. All you have to do if you don't want to support this group is procreate.
  • PEMDAS, on 05/12/2008, -6/+4I've heard they're having finding new members.
  • PEMDAS, on 05/12/2008, -2/+13I've heard they're having trouble finding new members.
  • DWposts, on 05/12/2008, -4/+15Cooool! Liberals, you go first! I'll stick around to verify the reduction in global warming.

    Wasn't this theme in a Tom Clancy novel?
    • Temlakos, on 05/12/2008, -1/+7It was, and it was titled "Rainbow Six." But in it, the movement for human extinction was not voluntary at all; this group wanted to kill everyone on the planet except themselves. When Team Rainbow rounded them up, they punished them by stripping them naked, destroying all their foodstuffs and fuel dumps, and leaving them to fend for themselves in the au naturel--and in the Amazon jungle, too.
      • GodzGurl59, on 05/12/2008, -2/+5See, I never read that,but I have thought for a long time that we sould round up all the envirosheeple, popcontrolnuts, animalrightswackos and buy a huge chunk of land here in the US. A big state....move all the normal folks somewhere else. Build a HUGE wall round the whole thing and put in all the warm fuzzy critters that never did humans any harm ever; grizzbears, mountlions, wolves, etc. Toss them in with nothing to protect themselves except what they can find, as they mostly are against guns. See how long they survive...............this solves 2 problems in on hit!
        • seala, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Why do you call yourself GodzGurl then shame Him by such Unchristian postings? Non Christians should see God reflected in our lives and Speech -and you think talking the way you do is Christlike?
  • sbernie, on 05/12/2008, -4/+14I think that the proposition that VHMET has espoused is already taken very seriously by the political and financial elites. Jacques Cousteau said in the 1980's that 350,000 humans need to be eliminated every day to bring the population down to a sustainable level. He said it was horrible to say it, but just as horrible not to say it. Fortunately, he has already assumed room temperature and has become plant and worm food. Mr. Knight, if he is really concerned about the planet, should go a commit suicide and then there would be one less maggot going hungry.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2But Mr. Knight didn't suggest killing anyone. Why would you be so much less charitable and suggest he kill himself.
  • jellytoast, on 05/12/2008, -8/+11Yes, I agree! May all the libs, communists, Fascists and other morons die out as soon as possible. Thank you!
    • anstice85, on 05/12/2008, -5/+10That is such a Christian way of thinking.
      • DavidS9, on 05/12/2008, -5/+5And how do you know their Christian?
      • chickenbig, on 05/12/2008, -1/+2He didn't say it, he was just agreeing to it with sarcasm. And you are right, mandatory extermination isn't very Christian.
  • mrpetey, on 05/12/2008, -5/+10This has to be by far the MOST perfect example of govt school thinking and the left-wing ideology and rationalization I have ever seen.

    Where I work (a cesspool of left-wing wackos) I hear this more and more - there are just too many people; we can sustain everyone; the population is going to kill us. There is just one problem, they all keep on having more and more kids - and their kids have kids. So once again, do as I say not as I do for the leftist whack jobs.

    But heck I am not about to stop them, the fewere libs raised the better for the rest of us.
  • regoodwin, on 05/12/2008, -2/+12I hope and pray that Al Gore is a member.
    • DavidS9, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4Sadly he can't be but I hope his kids are.
  • Ruler4you, on 05/12/2008, -10/+4Ex-Colorado governor, Richard Lamb, used to say "we all have a duty to die." Extending the life expectancy of humans frightened him.
    The problem in my humble but lovable opinion is our charitable nature. A thousand years ago we wouldn't have carried so many people who won't even carry themselves. They either would have been sent away from 'society' or killed out right. You would carry your own weight and have a socially redeemable quality like be a warrior or a hunter or recognize edible plants.
    Today, even the weakest among us must be carried until they die naturally. The argument is strong that we have approached the upper burden limit of available resources, but human intelligence and ego can not conclude such an idea.
    And so, it is our fate to die while helping others to survive that may not otherwise have had a chance. There are worse fates.
    • simplewisdom, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3What the hell are you talking about?
  • dlbfromLA, on 05/12/2008, -2/+8Let them have their way, sounds like a good choice for NATURAL SELECTION!!!!!!!!! I have to agree with the comment above, hope Al is a member!
  • mcrunch2, on 05/12/2008, -3/+7Why wait? Go for it now and save us all the trouble! After all, the world will be a blazin ball of fire in less than 10 years. Best to get rid of yourselves now to start the recovery as early as possible. At least the noise pollution will be lower :)
    Too bad the headline is sensationalist and incorrect.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2You're advocating what, mass suicide? They don't want to kill anyone. They don't support abortion. They are asking people to voluntarily choose not to have children. While I don't agree with them I don't see how what they are doing is hurting anyone except themselves.
  • proveritas, on 05/12/2008, -3/+9"Live life more simply" would be a better slogan. For the zealots to brazenly admit that mankind should go by the way of the dinosaurs to save the earth for the select few shows they believe that nothing is possible with God. Expect to see the elderly, the infirmed denied health care so they can die more quickly. Expect to see those with addictions to alcohol, cigarettes, drugs be denied treatment or the benefit of organ transplants because of their chosen lifestyle. Expect those who have AIDS or diseases that are life threatening to be denied access to prolonging their lives- expect babies born prematurely to be denied lifesaving treatment when it would be easier to let them die a natural death. With socialized medicine knocking at our door, many will die left waiting for a MRI, a surgery...Yes; this will eliminate a great number. And if you look back through time, even 70 years ago, none of the technology that exists today was present then. People died without the benefits offered today. Using extraordinary means to keep people alive will also be denied. For all of the above reasons, this is what society experienced before advancement in technology and medicines.
    Those who choose not to pro-create -fine. But, I believe they just don't think that with God everything is possible. If we choose to live more simply, taking care of our bodies without abusing them with drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, overeating, etc., the quality of life will be 100% better. For those in 3rd world countries...well, their life expectancy is greatly lowered which must make the Volunteer Human Extinction Group ecstatic. It wouldn't surprise me if they never contribute to the natural disasters that threaten lives because they want these people dead.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3They are not promoting killing anybody. They are anti-abortion. They want to prevent conception not kill anyone, and they want it done voluntarily. I think they're philosophy is totally nutty but I simply won't join them or donate money to them. And I really don't care if they donate money to help victims of natural disasters. It's their money. I choose to help those in need. But it's really nobodies business because it's my money.
    • seala, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2"With socialized medicine knocking at our door, many will die left waiting for a MRI, a surgery...Yes; this will eliminate a great number. "?? I would argue the opposite. The US is 29th in the world in Life Expectancy Rate Most of the countries with longer life expectancy have socialized medicine. In the US you have a 12.8% chance of NOT reaching 60 compared to 9.9% in Britain ( about the same as most Commonwealth countries) and 8% in Sweden. Socialized medicine = Longer life with less chance of dying young!
  • Libertarian, on 05/12/2008, -1/+7Like I always say; there ain't no shortage of screwballs on the planet.
  • tradcath4ever, on 05/12/2008, -4/+10Wow... stupid is as stupid does. Let's just hope that all the anti-life people join and die off so that there will be more room for those that love life and enjoy living. These people who join must really lead sad lives. This would be funny if it was not so sad. I think Al Gore should be president of this miss guided group.
    • eir574, on 05/12/2008, -1/+6" Let's just hope that all the anti-life people join and die off"

      Do you frequently find that you hope for the deaths of other people?
      • tradcath4ever, on 05/12/2008, -2/+4Isn't that the point of joining this group. To vow not to reproduce and recruit others to do the same. I was just pointing out that the anti-life people want the same thing as this group. If we do not reproduce, we WILL DIE OFF. This group also degrades humans as a "species" like a plant or an animal. Man was created in the image and likeness of God with an immortal soul.
        • eir574, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4"Isn't that the point of joining this group."

          I don't think this group's idea is particularly good, but I don't hope that they'll all die so that we don't have to deal with them.
        • jimbeam31, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3I don't want to speak for tradcath4ever but I understand what he means. We are all made in the likeness of God. Life is a gift that He has given us. Those who advocate their voluntary resistance to giving birth to successive generations and life are free to do as they will. However, advocating this lifestyle to others is proselytizing a cult of death and runs counter to God. These people are agents of evil (whether they consciously know it or not) and are ever trying to thwart God's will.

          I will tell you eir574, I am tired of dealing with people who think that they know more than God, or say that we don't need Him. We will never be rid of them until the Final Judgment. No one actually hopes for the death of anyone, but when you have someone who advocates evil they don't make it easy for anyone to "turn the other cheek." Christians always are asked to sit quiet and "take it." I cannot sit quiet while other nihilist and environmental wackos ruin the gifts that God gave us.

          Stay the course tradcath4ever, God will sustain you in your endeavors. I too am a traditional Catholic. I have required His strength and His wisdom more than I can think.

          God Bless us all.
  • LifeguardMom, on 05/12/2008, -4/+8I wonder if any members of VHEMT have children. Did mothers feel horrible when their newborn babies were placed in their arms? What do they do if a member of their family gets horribly sick? Do they go to the doctor? How many abortions have they had to keep from populating the planet? Should be expect another mass suicide since they are so anti-life and value the earth more than human beings?

    These people are mentally unbalanced.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3They specifically state that they don't support abortion. While i disagree with their principles I don't think they are monsters. They don't advocate killing anyone, including the unborn. I think people who support abortion are a much bigger risk to humanity than these guys.
  • raybojabo, on 05/12/2008, -3/+4Great idea! Maybe we could speed it up a little by deciding who to eliminate first, then build gas chambers and ovens to dispach them by the millions........ uh, wait a minute, bad idea
  • DavidS9, on 05/12/2008, -2/+4The only depressing thing about these guys is that they may brain wash some kid that they might adopt
  • wilgeno, on 05/12/2008, -1/+8Good for the Environment Bad Humans

    I have said it time and time again that Environmentalism is about human extinction. Environmentalists view humans as parasites not as a valued part of the environment. That is why all their Good for the Environment Environmental Policies are bad for humans. Look at the human death toll caused by environmentalism. They banned DDT falsely claiming it was bad for the environment. Tens of Millions have died from malaria since this ban took effect, and millions more are dying every year from malaria. The claim that the R12 refrigerant was causing ozone holes was also bogus, however we now have a new refrigerant that is deadly to humans. Small cars are supposedly good for the environment, however single car fatalities have increased greatly since these tiny coffins on wheels were mandated via CAFE standards. Mandated usage of corn based ethanol is leading to skyrocketing food prices globally resulting in Environmentalist made famine. Hundreds of thousands will die from food shortages. This is just the short list of Good for the Environment but Deadly for Humans environmental policies. We need to end the killing of humans in the name of environmentalism.

    Vote Conservative
    http://www.wilgeno.com
  • rameses92, on 05/12/2008, -1/+8if their goal is all humans to die- what is to stop them or someone like them to make conscious decisions to eliminate certain people or certain groups of people - just a thought
  • ihateusernames3, on 05/12/2008, -4/+10I'm kind of surprised how outraged a lot of people seem to be. Sure, its completely rediculous, but it isnt harming anybody. All theyre saying is dont have kids, and theyre not forcing it on anybody; it isnt even an organized group. But it is very true that the Earth is well past its carrying capacity, and the population will only get much higher due to exponential growth. That doesnt mean that you shouldnt have kids, but if some people dont, or only have one or two, it is only going to help you and your offspring
    • simplewisdom, on 05/12/2008, -5/+5Hey, Einstein!
      Take off your thinking cap, it isn't working! This idea, originated by a white-ish American of Euro-decent, will fly globally like a lead balloon. White Americans are already reproducing at a rate smaller than their death rate. We're extincting ourselves already. Aim this philosophy at the Third World and tell me what you think the reaction would be. Elitist, arrogant Americans, warmongering nation destroyers, capitalist pigs, Jew-loving Arab-haters, trying to impose our views on the rest of the world. This isn't a game of checkers. You need to think a couple of moves ahead before you open your mouth. Whether intended or not, this is another attempt to destroy the greatness of America.
      • ihateusernames3, on 05/12/2008, -2/+7So you disagree with not having kids because it would only lower white populations? WHO CARES?? It would seem that racism is at the base of your basic argument, which is pretty disgusting
        • seala, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1If you are rich, you are blessed with a large family. If you are poor, you breed like rabbits. Mad Magazine Article "The difference between Rich and Poor One could noe use the same sentiment between Whites and Other Racial Groups These people have such big families... always said by a white person
      • Phyraxus, on 05/12/2008, -2/+3 LOL, OMG THAT IS SO RACIST!
  • GodzGurl59, on 05/12/2008, -7/+9Not a thing. Many on here said that it was voluntary, but make no mistake; if people like this got the chance they would make it mandatory and kill whom THEY chose. They want to make the earth pure for THEIR PLEASURE. They want less people so they can enjoy it more.
    And someone here asked what Planned Parenthood has to do with this. People like this use abortion for birth control. This is the arena of PP who's business is eliminating life.
    Never think for a moment this people wouldn't steralize and kill our kids if they thought they could get away with it.
    • ihateusernames3, on 05/12/2008, -3/+5"if people like this got the chance they would make it mandatory and kill whom THEY chose." No they wouldnt. Nobody is being killed, that is the core idea. "They want less people so they can enjoy it more." They'll be dead by the time there are less people! And they wont have any offspring that would enjoy it more, so your argument is pretty much useless.

      "Never think for a moment this people wouldn't steralize and kill our kids if they thought they could get away with it." NOBODY is getting killed!! Theyre not sterilizing anybody! They just think that people should voluntarily not have kids
    • eir574, on 05/12/2008, -1/+7"Never think for a moment this people wouldn't steralize and kill our kids if they thought they could get away with it."

      How in the world do people see conspiracy theories everywhere they turn? Do you really, seriously think that these people are out to kill you and sterilize your children, or is it just a wee bit possible that you're overreacting? Someone has a bizarre idea that you find unappealing, so suddenly they're evil people out to kill you?
      • jimbeam31, on 05/12/2008, -6/+4Ideas like this start harmless..."it's just for volunteers. " Then a movement builds, gets bigger and gathers momentum. Eventually it becomes too big to stop. An example is Nazi-ism. It began with one man and eventually became the law of the land in Germany. Think again eir and ihateusernames3 (interesting handle...). People like you act as a Fifth Column to weaken others resolve. History has been repeated by too many who have NEVER learned from it failings.
        • ihateusernames3, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4are you really so stupid to compare Nazis to people who dont personally want to procreate? Hitler always wanted to take over, he never made any bones about it.

          Although I think its moderately stupid, this group has a good point - the earth is overpopulated. Do you know what exponential growth means? It means that if everyone has three kids, the population goes up by 50%. (2.5 is average in the US, but it is higher in some places). If there are 6 billion people, then it would be 9 billion in about 30 years. Then, 60 years from now, it would be 13.5 billion. I am not saying that there should be a cap on the number of kids you can have, but it is a problem
        • eir574, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6The difference between this group and Nazi Germany is that this group is choosing these things for themselves. They are not advocating that anyone be forced to choose it against their will. They are not saying that anyone who doesn't join their group is less than human. It's a strange, but completely peaceful movement. There are enough problems in this world that we shouldn't try to make new ones. Do you really need another cause to fight, and if you do, should this be it?

          Kirallin23 (below my comment and a couple of levels of indentation to the left) makes a good point as well. Whether or not anyone chooses to have children is none of your business. Whether or not they think *you* should have children is not really an issue either, so long as they don't try to force that choice on you.
        • StaticThunder, on 05/12/2008, -1/+5The beauty of this movement is, that it disappears in one generation or less. It CAN'T catch on. Slippery slope reasoning aside, ideas are not dangerous in and of themselves. And proselytes that preach unappealing ideas are harmless so long as they remain proselytes.

          I'd agree with them, if it weren't for the fact that "making the earth a better place" is arguable; I happen to think having some small number of people around is a good thing.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6This group doesn't even advocate abortion. They don't want to kill anyone, not even unborn children. They are simply asking, in a peaceful way, people not to reproduce. While I disagree with them on principle it's really none of my business what they choose to believe and whether or not they choose to have offspring.
  • JWNimrod, on 05/12/2008, -1/+9And tell me, if these retards actually saw (figuratively) their "vision" come to fruition and all humans died out, just what the hell good would the earth be, anyway? It would be, as we say, worthless as ***** on a boar. One big zoo that served absolutely no purpose. What a bunch of freakin' morons!
    • ihateusernames3, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4Most of these people dont actually want the human species to go extinct (some may, but not most). They just want the Earth to have a human population under its carrying capacity. Voluntary Human Extinction is not an official name. It was coined by someone who knew that the word "extinction" would catch people attention. A more accurate name would be Voluntary Human Many Less People, but that isnt quite as catchy
  • 10QGZus, on 05/12/2008, -3/+7And who are these people to tell me how many kids I can or cannot have? I have 4 children. I have also lost 2. I will have as many kids as I darn well please.

    What's next? Forced sterilization? Signing a pledge to only have 2 kids per family? What other type of Gestapo tactics do they want to implement on our society? Isn't this exactly what the "greatest generation" fought and died for in Nazi Germany? It's hard to believe people want to implement the same atrocities we fought and died for 60+ years ago.
    • ihateusernames3, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4nobody is telling you how many kids to have. How is voluntarily not having kids a Gestapo tactic?
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4This doesn't have anything to do with what happened in Nazi Germany. They're asking people to voluntarily refrain from having children. While I disagree with them I find nothing wrong with them believing as they choose. They are not trying to force anyone to do anything.
  • Brumbar, on 05/12/2008, -1/+2HEY! All of you VHEMT's outta' the Gene Pool, right now! Ahhhh, see the air is fresher all ready.
  • cnsrvatv, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1Earth seems to do a great job of removing humans from existence, as evidenced by the latest disasters from around the world. But go ahead VHEMT... who am I to stop you.
  • kingsaliva, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2only 39 diggs and this many comments already.
    • Coven, on 05/12/2008, -2/+9This happens on a lot of WND articles. The actual WND readers and religious fanatics come out in defense of the article while the less religious sects of Digg emerge from the woodwork. They line up on either side of the screen and come together for epic battle after epic battle. No intellect is left unbroken and we all leave just a little bit of our humanity behind after it is all said and done with.

      Its fun though :)
      • LadyAmerica, on 05/13/2008, -3/+5Pray tell, why do you dislike WND. Facts, please, not Daily Kos, MoveOn, etc., propeganda.
        • eir574, on 05/13/2008, -1/+7Because much of the time when I read an article on WND and then do research elsewhere, I find that they have left out pertinent facts. For instance, there was the article a few weeks ago about two lesbian women who had a child together (via artificial insemination) while involved in a civil union in Vermont. When one woman dissolved the civil union, she asked Vermont to settle the issue of custody. It did, but the woman was not satisfied and so took the child to Virginia and filed for custody there. Virginia granted her full custody and denied visitation to the other woman, but an appeals court overturned the case, which then went to Virginia's supreme court. The article does a great job of getting people all outraged over the decision of the appeals court, but it fails to mention that the appeals court ruled on the basis of a federal law that requires each state to recognize the custody orders of another state even if the case would have been decided differently according to state law. This is a critical part of the case. The article also alleges that the non-custodial woman says as part of her legal argument that the custodial parent's Christianity makes her an unfit parent, but provides no source to back this up. I read as many court filings as I could find, and there was no indication that this has anything at all to do with the case. Instead, it's about that federal law I mentioned and whether Virginia's laws should supersede it.

          I'm not trying to rehash a discussion of that case. I'm just bringing it up as an example (since you asked).
        • lydecker, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7I dislike all propaganda from WND, Daily Kos, and MoveOn (actually never been there) because they often leave out information, word things deceptively and occasionally wrong, and provide their own interpretation of things. I typically might find stories on these sites, but search for the original source to read what really happened, because it will have more journalistic integrity.
        • kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -0/+8If often find items of interest on WND, I like the site. However, I have found that some of their stuff is ridiculously biased in reporting. Ane often headlines are misleading to catch your attention and enrage you. I don't appreciate that.
          • eir574, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5When I see sites that display obvious bias, my bigger concern is how many cases of more subtle bias there might be. Even keeping in mind the fact that a certain site is biased doesn't mean that I'll know every time they present me with something that's unbalanced. The seemingly daily freak outs on digg over various WND articles make me wonder if that bias is fooling people into becoming reactionary over time and into believing that the bias either isn't there or isn't all that bad. I'd probably say the same thing over the more left leaning propaganda websites if I spent any real time in those threads on digg.

  • TheBigOs, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3What's really scary is if one of these idiots were to actually grow a brain and create or get possession of a deadly virus or nuke. They would see it as a blessing in taking out the entire world. The jihadist only want certain religions removed from earth not all of humanity.
    • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3These people only advocate voluntary extinction. You're taking it a step further. I don't think it's these idiots we have to worry about, it's the militaristic environmental idiots that present that kind of threat.
  • kirralin23, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6I had a college professor who pushed this philosophy quite hard. The philosophy doesn't bother me since they don't advocate abortion as the means to prevent human births. They are just telling people not to breed. This is aimed at adults. Nobody wants children to breed anyway so even if they suck in gullible kids they have a chance to grow up and change their minds. If they don't change their minds they are simply adults who have chosen not to have children. Europe has grasped this philosophy quite tightly. In Germany the government pays you to have children as they are entering a crisis caused by a lack in numbers of the younger generation. Their economy is at risk of totally tanking. The non-German immigrants are taking over that country because there's no-one else to do the job. There are definitely consequences to this type of action. If you don't have children it is much harder to pass on your beliefs to the younger generations. But I don't want people who believe we should be extinct to pass on their beliefs anyway.
    • nippinawassee, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3"The non-German immigrants are taking over that country because there's no-one else to do the job." This is all I've heard for years about the illegals from Mexico - they are doing the jobs no one else will do... which is total BS. Oklahoma passed some very strict laws regarding hiring illegals, housing illegals, etc., and so the illegals left the state in droves... and guess what? their unemployment problem with native Oklahomans suddenly dropped. When you don't have people sucking up the jobs at 1/2 or less of what a job would normally pay, there ARE people to do the work. The situation involving picking crops: what's wrong with all of the ones who are on lifetime (cradle to grave) welfare picking crops? Takes little to no training - perhaps if they experienced the labor of picking crops, they'd maybe WANT to work to get a better J O B.. Know it's cruel to expect people who are chronic producers of children and chronic leeches on the government system to W O R K but if WE do why can't THEY? The only reason the non-American illegals, as with France, Germany, etc., the muslim illegals are 'doing the jobs no one else will do' is because they work for less... and what business doesn't want to increase their profits while paying less for labor?
  • nippinawassee, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1NWTT!
  • DahktaD, on 05/12/2008, -3/+2Well...I'm for them killing themselves and we will evaluate if their demise had any effect on the planet. And if they are in a hurry, Bagdad might be a good start to hasten their departure.
    • kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Aren't you the violent one. They aren't advocating killing anyone. They don't even support abortion, the killing of unborn babies. They say live long and die out. They don't suggest cutting anyones life short. They only ask you not to breed. The best way to fight them is to have children.
  • Phyraxus, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6Well, it isn't promoting mass suicide, it is promoting no procreation. What's wrong with that?
    • danielttt, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4For this group....absolutely nothing wrong with forgoing procreation. Give them all darwin awards and we can errect a nice big monument once the last one has departed....
  • notbysight, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6This idea is 25 years old.
    How anyone can say "we have used up most all of our resources".?
    If Every human on the planet can each fit on 1 acre in Txs, there is plenty of planet and resources left. Its the generalizations that these libs operate on...no true facts, just feelings, products of Public School
    Anything for some doo-gooder attention.
    God loves life, we are created in His image and likeness, He bestowed us this grand globe and their is plenty for everyone....xcept the selfish dont want others incl;uding new children to enjoy it
    • danielttt, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4This "movement" has nothing to do with reality. It's the Godless looking desperately for a substitute for God. In my estimation, there is no meaning to their lives and no hope. This conjured nonsense is a vain attempt to make them feel they have some enlightenment the rest of us do not enjoy. What a waste.
  • WiseWeasel, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3The good news is that its proponents will only be around for one generation, so we won't have to hear about this for too long... The funny part is that some people might actually be under the impression that they are going to have an impact on population growth by not having children. The problem is that those who will go along with this are NOT the same people that have five kids and keep plopping them out, not to mention they won't have any kids to relay their message to the next generation.

    I'm going to put on my evil super-villain cap for a sec, and propose that a more effective method of limiting population growth would be to offer welfare recipients more money to not have kids than what they would get for having additional dependents, since they might be the most vulnerable group to this type of influence. That would be a voluntary system that extends beyond the insignificant demographic for this current agenda.
    • WiseWeasel, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2Another good solution might be to get rid of the brain-dead abstinence-only sex education being promoted by the current administration, and go back to a more realistic approach with birth control...
  • djmdjm, on 05/13/2008, -3/+3People like this want it both ways. First they advocate zero population and zero economic growth but they also advocate government social programs that require perpetual population and economic growth to work. Dufuses, they are good candidates for the Darwin awards.
  • Teribssn, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2WHAT A BUNCH OF HUEY!!
  • alkajazz, on 05/13/2008, -1/+8We live on a planet with finite space and resources. We will have to control our own population. If we start looking at the idea of slowing down our own procreation then maybe we can help out future generations. Natural resources will dwindle eventually, our time here is finite. While I don't think anyone has the right to impose this kind of ban on procreation, I do believe it needs to be suggested. Let people decide whether they want to do it or not.
    • gordonj, on 05/13/2008, -2/+6I agree on this point. There are too many people on the planet. What we need to do now as a species is either rationally deal with our situation by trying to limit further procreation and usage of resources in a controlled and intelligent manner, or continue on as we are and face eventual extinction which will no doubt be preceeded by wars, famine and pestilence.
      • LadyAmerica, on 05/13/2008, -4/+3And who, pray tell, is going to decide who gets to procreate and who doesn't. Population control is People control!
        • gordonj, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4That's why I said we as a species need to do something. We all have the capacity for thought beyond that of other species. If we really put some effort into thinking about the situation we are creating for ourselves in the future then we may be able to avoid it. It's not just going to go away if we ignore it.
        • alkajazz, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3"And who, pray tell, is going to decide who gets to procreate and who doesn't. Population control is People control!" Did you no comprehend what I said? At this point we have the CHOICE to do it without being forced. It has to be a human effort, not just one group of people. Eventually it will become necessary; though probably not in our lifetimes.
    • kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -1/+1If people keep procreating we will be forced to invest more money in space programs and expand into the stars, or at least find ways to live on Mars.
  • ThoughtfulWi, on 05/13/2008, -3/+8So another group of crackpots comes along, and WND spins it into another "sky is falling" scenario. Does anyone besides the WND staff take these people seriously?
    • LadyAmerica, on 05/13/2008, -3/+1There was no "sky is falling" spinning by WND, read the article (again?)
  • notbysight, on 05/14/2008, -0/+0These peeps ever look out a window of an airliner, that is flying thru and being supported by AIR?.....Nothing but air, trees, fields and rivers and lakes..occasionally a city!!! what the hell "resources" are they speaking of that is in short supply ?....hash heesh?
    Each member make one baby, put it up for adoption, then off themselves, it would be equitable carbon tradeoff.
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