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- dgaspard, on 12/21/2007, -24/+128I was there. I didn't want to protest, just wanted to see the thing for myself. That whole protest was *****. Only a handlfull of people were actually from New Orleans. Everyone else is from California, Iowa, or somewhere else on some holy crusade for the poor.
If you ever been to projects since Katrina you would know the only people that live there are squatters. Most of it is without electricity and everything is boarded up. People get raped and its filled with Meth labs. It's not a suitable place to live. To keep them up and have people move in would be cruel and unusual.
I really wish these ***** hippies would leave my state and let us rebuild a nicer city in peace. - inactive, on 12/21/2007, -23/+79Wake up and realize that fighting cops will probably hurt you more than it will hurt them?
The protestors were not entitled to simply barge in a public building and fight cops. They chose to escalate the violence, they got hurt.
It's not like cops prevented them from protesting. It's not like cops attacked for no reason. All they had to do was remain peaceful and nobody would've gotten arrested or hurt. - jlvdaum, on 12/21/2007, -9/+64New Orleans was my home before it was a national media political issue. Remember that when your home is devastated by nature, or man, this is the help you will get.
- Glofern, on 12/21/2007, -23/+76Here we have it, Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine, The Rise of Disaster Captitalism," the plan to privitize everything and to use the shock of a disaster to take over and rebuild for the rich. I am over simplyfying this, but everyone should check out The Shock Doctrine and be prepared to feel the shock but we must know the truth in order to restore America.
- shakingfist, on 12/21/2007, -55/+103Wake up America
- hankidic, on 12/21/2007, -11/+59New Orleans resident here...
If you don't want to get tazed and maced, don't try to smash down the gates of a goverment building. No sympathy for stupidity. - QuantumBios, on 12/21/2007, -20/+67Same week that a $600,000,000,000 bill goes to Iraq.
- RevToTheRedline, on 12/21/2007, -12/+49Buried for inaccuracy on title, should be "protestors attack police officers and engage in riot, situation handled properly"
- Phatlip012, on 12/21/2007, -7/+39I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but I don't see the sort of force used here as being unreasonable. Theres a difference between protesting and rioting and rioting is where this video was headed.
And this is coming from a card carrying member of the ACLU... - greenm1981, on 12/21/2007, -1/+26No. All US citizens, regardless of their economic condition, have the RIGHT to protest ANYTHING. Please educate yourself on US Constitutional rights before you opine upon them.
- dshPls, on 12/21/2007, -20/+40Shhh the anti-authority sentiment here on Digg won't be so happy to see you questioning their generic hatred.
- mwalker05, on 12/21/2007, -7/+26How can you sympathize with the protesters?They were able to tear through a CHAINED AND HANDCUFFED gate. The cops felt threatened so they responded. This is New Orleans people. It is very probable that some of those protesters were armed. The cops showed an appropriate level of force and restraint to keep the mob outside the gate. Had the cops shot some body, this would be entirely different.
- chriscooley, on 12/21/2007, -12/+31straight from the Louisiana State Penal code, that was a riot. The police action was justified
§329.1. Riot
A. A riot is a public disturbance involving an assemblage of three or more persons acting together or in concert which by tumultuous and violent conduct, or the imminent threat of tumultuous and violent conduct, results in injury or damage to persons or property or creates a clear and present danger of injury or damage to persons or property.
Acts 1969, No. 176, §2. - AdmiralJimbob, on 12/21/2007, -6/+24Only the bit where he forgot to say it was at full capacity.
- inactive, on 12/21/2007, -8/+26No, because it's correct. Maybe you meant what is wrong with that picture or something.
You don't have a free access to public buildings. Never did, never will. And in any case, they were trying to prevent the accomplishment of democratic progress, they were trying to prevent elected officials from voting on a public matter by using violence. So don't try and sell that freedom crap to me. - inactive, on 12/21/2007, -8/+25Another right wing loony who doesn't understand the US Constitution. At least they get on public forums and display their stupidity for all to see.
- inactive, on 12/21/2007, -1/+18Yes, it was so secret and illegal, that people from other states were warned weeks in advance and the public was invited.
- inactive, on 12/21/2007, -16/+33All of the seats and room for the meeting was full. They should not have tried to force their way into the meeting. They deserved what they got.
- inactive, on 12/21/2007, -5/+22Container X contains 50 people.
There are 500 people.
450 people can't enter container X.
If you need a drawing I can make you one. - greenm1981, on 12/21/2007, -2/+18The building was full. Letting anymore people inside would have been a public safety issue. Granted, I can't blame the desperation of those being displaced first by the hurricane, then by government collusion with corporatist interests.
- inactive, on 12/21/2007, -3/+19Forget "wake up America"...more like "grow up America"...
While I agree with EIA's opinion, you people have to realize that New Orleans have been under a lot of stress following Katrina. So put two and two together and this is what you get. - NewGTGuy, on 12/21/2007, -4/+20I agree with pretty much all of Naomi Klein's points. The only issue I have with her is she is a Hillary Clinton supporter. Hillary Clinton is a front women for the CFR, Trilateral, and Builderberg groups. All she will do is further the fascist agenda outlined in Naomi's book.
- ChristPissed, on 12/21/2007, -6/+22I see you point. You're salivating over the increases in CORPORATE WELFARE and STATE WELFARE (massive handouts to israel, Turkey, israel, Turkey, Pakistan).
- thcobbs, on 12/21/2007, -10/+26You do realize, that the police closed the gates AFTER the City Hall was at capacity, and allowed the people to protest peacefully.
Only after the protesters became violent did the police use measures to control the crowd. - SiNN4R, on 12/21/2007, -7/+22My generic hatred knows no bounds.
- inactive, on 12/21/2007, -5/+19Did you miss the part where most of these people weren't even New Orleans residents?
- brutalentropy, on 12/21/2007, -8/+22Did you miss the part where meetings there generally go over capacity, and they allow people to stand in the aisles and in the back of the room?
- supernovasky, on 12/21/2007, -1/+15People should have a choice where they want to live and where they dont want to live. If you're going to tear down the only place these people know as home, then help subsidize new projects and new housing areas. New Orleans has not done that yet. I'm a displaced Katrina victim, home insurance screwed me over, the road home failed utterly, and now I'm stuck treating the place I've lived my entire life as a ***** vacation destination for mardi gras.
I will say this though, the police were probably not out of line. Don't get me started on new orleans police though. - Firehed, on 12/21/2007, -2/+16As much as I hate this kind of behavior and generally agree with you, I've seen footage of what was going on in New Orleans and the level of force the police used was justified. This was riot control, not trying to silence people that had differing political views.
The "Wake up America" comment is certainly well-applied to the guy who was tased for not signing a speeding ticket or arresting people with terrorist charges because they had a camera around their neck. Not this. - mattyG, on 12/21/2007, -3/+16Wow, after reading this comment and your last, I went to profile to see if you were around 14 years old, but according to your profile you're 45. Your posts are stupid and don't make any sense to either of the posts you are replying to.
- Taomcdohl, on 12/21/2007, -0/+12People tried to forcibly enter by breaking through a locked gate, then turn violent. And yet, they're shocked because they were met with resistance? The "tragedy" of this story is that people somehow believe they have the right to turn violent with no recourse. This wasn't a peaceful display or a dead weight protest. This was a group of people entrenched in a mob mentality of violence.
- eatspaste, on 12/21/2007, -2/+14For starters the council chambers were full to capacity, and that's why they weren't being let in not some conspiracy to keep them from being heard. Both sides of the issue were equally represented in the chambers by individuals selected by leaders on both sides of the debate. Secondly a sizable portion of the protesters were college kids from out of state who have no business protesting something they know little to nothing about and were just there to make noise. The project housing in New Orleans has been in dire need of change for a very long time, the storm afforded a rare opportunity to do just that.
A few years ago a cluster of these housing projects were razed and mixed income housing was put in it place, with previous residents being given housing vouchers to live in much nicer, more private homes. In this particular neighborhood the crime has decreased dramatically and the residents are taking much more pride in keeping the area a nice place for everyone to live.
No one is being left homeless in this plan, all of the housing is currently empty and largely uninhabitable. all of the residents are having their rent paid as they were while living in the projects , but now they find themselves in nicer places with better schools, less crime, and more opportunities.
The only people who benefit from the projects re opening are the people receiving underhanded deals to "renovate" these blighted structures and the criminal element that thrives in that environment - nawlins, on 12/21/2007, -33/+45I see this as being an absolutely necessary move for New Orleans. One of its greatest problems from before Katrina was the public housing slums. New Orleans needs big change and this is an integral step. All the people bitching have been sucking on the tax payer's tit for two long. Temporary housing used to be looked down upon and was only temporary, now there are generations of people living in projects.
- greenm1981, on 12/21/2007, -2/+14I'm reading it now. Very good work. This is first book I've read that offers a comprehensive set of motives that explain why we really went into Iraq and offers a good explanation for ideological blowback, which we now call "terrorism."
- manifestdata, on 12/21/2007, -12/+24Good to know the children here at digg still do not get facts behind a story and prefer the scare tactics and sensationalism they claim to hate about our current administration.
- chriscooley, on 12/21/2007, -1/+13A policeman's job is not to interpret the law, his primary job is to enforce the law
- aoru, on 12/21/2007, -7/+18I think the response was pretty justified. I have seen multiple videos of the incident inside and out. On the inside the a fight broke out between a couple guys and some cops. Then the gospel mob went crazy. I must say that it was mostly black cops handling black people, so no race card here. Just a bunch of animals going crazy. At one point a black women shouted "Shut up white boy!" like 8 times to this guys face like an immature 10 year old with a "what bitch? what cha gonna do pussy" thug attitude when he was clearly trying to avoid confrontation.
On the outside it looked like a bunch of hippies breaking open the gate shouting "Let us in!". Then when the gate bust open they just stand there looking at each other. No one goes in. However a very loud annoying black lady is screaming "We gonna fight!" "We gonna fight!". So as much as I dislike cops. They were damaging public property and threatening violence. Appropriate force used. If you were around that situation and didn't leave that is your fault. It took them a minute or two to bust open the gate and then another minute before they used pepper spray and tazers. Common sense would say that this situation was going bad quick and it is best to get out of the area quick. - thcobbs, on 12/21/2007, -1/+12They are out of line when they turn into a mob and try to storm into a room where there are ALREADY too many people for safety in order to force a vote to go the way they want it.
- psych0fish, on 12/21/2007, -5/+15Title is inaccurate. I'm from New Orleans, and not only are these people not even from new orleans, they were not within their rights to peacefully protest. This was a riot, and the police handled it properly.
- DavidYeah, on 12/21/2007, -1/+11On his deathbed, Milton Friedman saw the Katrina disaster as an excellent way to finally clean up New Orleans. All of that excellent land is finally being ripped away from the rabble and their government housing and put up for sale to whomever is most priviledged in America.
- Tenlow, on 12/21/2007, -2/+11No, he's a right wing loony because of his political views. A left wing nutjob would never say ***** like that.
- greenm1981, on 12/21/2007, -3/+12Show me some statistics that indicate that most people on government subsidies are on them because they are too lazy to work. If can't provide that, then it is just your baseless opinion.
- inactive, on 12/21/2007, -3/+12*REPOST FOR ACCURACY*
I think the response was pretty justified. I have seen multiple videos of the incident inside and out. On the inside the a fight broke out between a couple guys and some cops. Then the gospel mob went crazy. I must say that it was mostly black cops handling black people, so no race card here. Just a bunch of animals going crazy. At one point a black women shouted "Shut up white boy!" like 8 times to this guys face like an immature 10 year old with a "what bitch? what cha gonna do pussy" thug attitude when he was clearly trying to avoid confrontation.
On the outside it looked like a bunch of hippies breaking open the gate shouting "Let us in!". Then when the gate bust open they just stand there looking at each other. No one goes in. However a very loud annoying black lady is screaming "We gonna fight!" "We gonna fight!". So as much as I dislike cops. They were damaging public property and threatening violence. Appropriate force used. If you were around that situation and didn't leave that is your fault. It took them a minute or two to bust open the gate and then another minute before they used pepper spray and tazers. Common sense would say that this situation was going bad quick and it is best to get out of the area quick. - rblancarte, on 12/21/2007, -3/+11I would have to say, this is HIGHLY inaccurate. This wasn't a case where people were peacefully demonstrating, these people were on the verge of a riot and were trying to get into a place where there was no room for them. When they got out of hand, THEN the police did what they had to do. And it was right for them to do it.
This is nothing more than shock journalism for the sake of it. - diggernaught, on 12/21/2007, -3/+11Did you see the crowd? Tazers and Pepper Spray is better then rubber bullets. Sometimes force is justified. I like how the sissy Mayor missed these meetings lettting any blame fall on the council. Good to see someone is doing thier job.
- inactive, on 12/21/2007, -5/+13Yeah, weird isn't it, they didn't let a violent mob stand in the back of a public hall vote.
- weaksnyc, on 08/14/2009, -0/+8You might have a point if said bombers were (a) actually from Iraq, and (b) blowing up mosques in America. You know, like the anti-abortion people do to clinics.
- niardica, on 12/21/2007, -0/+8"However, opponents of the plan charge that it represents a deliberate attempt to rid the city of its poorest and blackest residents,"
WTF.. "blackest"!?! - Phrag, on 12/21/2007, -0/+8It doesn't say anything about handouts, which means you can't exclude constitutionally protected rights from people who are on government assistance as the original poster suggested.
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