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- MHunt, on 11/03/2009, -13/+144I suppose you can say everything is about Obama. The Chicago Tribune certainly thinks so. V is a remake of a miniseries from the early 80s. They've been showing episodes of the original on SyFy. While it may sound like it is based on Obama, it is simply a remake of a story already told.
- avengingturnip, on 11/03/2009, -7/+94"So, does that sound like anyone you know? Oh, wait -- did I mention the leader is secretly a totalitarian space lizard who's come here to eat us?"
I knew it! I knew it! I knew it! - UnFriendlyFire, on 11/03/2009, -6/+88I didn't read the whole article, but the gist is Obama is a reptilian alien.
- ChuckDees, on 11/04/2009, -10/+62So a TV show based on a mini series from 1983 has what to do with today's politics?
People read way too much into stuff. Really this story was written over 26 years ago.
This is "article" is stupid.
The "media" is barely a step above a high school newspaper. It is crappy gossip and ***** opinion passed off as news. - Charlotte_Web, on 11/03/2009, -17/+64So, in the new V, the aliens are at war with Fox News for trying to expose them?
- Paranor01, on 11/04/2009, -3/+48What the article stated was exactly what the original series had.
Like Nostradamus, they're trying to make current events fit in somebody's writings and make it a reflection of what is happening.
It isn't, it's an old story on a reboot only. - SQLDigger, on 11/03/2009, -8/+49I haven't heard him deny that he is one.
- SQLDigger, on 11/03/2009, -6/+46It's pretty obvious that the writers tossed in some contemporary parallels just to be snarky. I seriously doubt this is a criticism of Obama, just a little tongue-in-cheek poke at the craze (and all the conspiracies as well). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they wrote in a reptilian-leader bobble-head doll, too. It's a show about reptilian lizards pretending to be people ffs. This sounds like it's just the usual American pastime of poking fun at ourselves.
- Suricou, on 11/04/2009, -5/+44I think most of the simularities have to be coincidential, simply because they were there in the original too - long before Obama.
- fxmulder, on 11/03/2009, -35/+62Amazing; there must be some people in C town that aren't BHO fans.
- gpageau, on 11/04/2009, -0/+25The original series was inspired by Sinclair Lewis' "It Can't Happen Here," and was an allegory about the rise of possibility of fascism in the United States. It was heavily patterned after Nazi visuals, including a Swastika-like logo, SS-like uniforms. a version of the "Hitler Youth," etc. The original series was very political, and it wouldn't be surprising to the see the current version follow a similar tact.
The original two-part series and subsequent mini-series were popular when it kept to those themes; after producer Kenneth Johnson left and they came out with the "V" series, it became more of a sci-fi series -- with alien/hybrid babies and so forth -- than a political commentary.
Whether or not the new series is about Obama worship -- which I personally doubt, since it's airing on ABC -- remains to be seen. - mrpither, on 11/03/2009, -13/+34Alien Leader: "Just don't show anything that would portray us in a negative light."
Reporter: "Uh... what?"
(paraphrasing) - mine4321, on 11/04/2009, -1/+20Dugg you up. This is exactly what I was thinking. The show started exactly like the original.
(Psst. The aliens are lizards and they're here to eat us!) - bjornski, on 11/04/2009, -3/+20So THAT'S why he's hiding the birth certificate!
CALL ORLY TAITZ! - ChuckDees, on 11/04/2009, -3/+19Wow your comment proves my point.
A lot of people are just basically immature.
Immature enough to read whatever odd perspective they wish into a 30 year old sci fi story. - mediabias, on 11/03/2009, -19/+34Aliens vs. Monsters had Obama in it too (Galaxar). And Biden (the blob). :)
- Thud, on 11/04/2009, -2/+17I think they also smeared Bush too... evidently the V's got here years ago and screwed up the world by "starting unnecessary wars" and tanking the economy, in order to set the stage for the V's to appear as heroes.
So, basically, all politicians are space lizards. - TheHayze, on 11/04/2009, -4/+18I think the Chicago Tribune is thinking a little too much into some work of fiction. We can compare just about anything to a charismatic President. Hell, I have met folks who compare Obama to JFK. But that doesn't make it so. At any rate, this is dumb; V was also a mini-series from 20 years ago.
- Charlotte_Web, on 11/03/2009, -28/+41I think some Obama fans are experiencing cognitive dissonance. After years of decrying the perceived Bush march toward totalitarianism, they have to admit that they are occasionally creeped out by the Obama Kool-Aid.
The timing of the series launch is interesting, though. It's late in the Fall season, and this series has had a lot of hype. Since the election is today, the series premiere tonight won't have any impact on it, lest anyone make the connection between Diana and Obama. - Paranor01, on 11/04/2009, -3/+16yes, V was a reflection of Hitler and how that happened.
however, the party of Hitler was socialistic in name only, not in action. - MOJIRA, on 11/04/2009, -2/+15The ***** is C town?
- Snuph, on 11/04/2009, -9/+22Actually its becuase we try to save prebees and the rest of the world doesnt.
- bjornski, on 11/04/2009, -8/+21ABC? Smear a Democratic President?
They've got no problem with that. Look what they did to Clinton. - DWatch, on 11/04/2009, -1/+12I don't think the Tribune writer knows how TV works. This new version of "V" was probably scripted years ago, when "universal health care" was just a small glimmer in the back of everyone's mind, and not the full-out shouting match it has become in the past 6 months or so. Even if there were last minute changes in the script, the show's scenes were most certainly filmed at least a year ago (thats about when I saw the first trailers and publicity shots), making the Tribune's comparisons kind of revisionist.
More than likely, the term "Universal Health Care" was just a term the V writers co-opted because it sounded kind of cool, and they needed a term to neatly cover what the new version of the show wanted to use as the Visitor's wedge into our society, free heath clinics in every city along with miracle cures for nearly every disease, and thus, the Visitors would become almost Jesus-like to the populace. The last line of the show wrapped it up nicely, the Visitors are using the most powerful weapon they can; devotion. In this case, the Visitors are setting themselves up to be man-kind's next messiah.
This show has so little to do with Obama and the REAL debate over "Universal Health Care" that I'm surprised a supposedly educated journalist assumed there was such a strong resemblance between the two. The original show was more about the political nature of America and how by using the government and the press, they could turn the country and the world into a fascist state. This new version of V has more to do with religion than policitcs. In this version, one of the main characters is a priest who is conflicted by the arrival of aliens, and soon joins the resistance. You can see where the tone of the show is going, even after only the first show. - charlietuna, on 11/04/2009, -1/+12Correction: reptilian Nigerian.
- moger777, on 11/04/2009, -2/+11David Icke comes to mind here.
- drinking12many, on 11/04/2009, -4/+13The article is simple to explain.... The chicago tribune has no readers. So they write an article that is total nonsense and post it. Everyone thinks its rediculous but they go read it anyway.... Profit$$$$
- JimintheOC, on 11/04/2009, -16/+25QUOTE: Do you know that we rank 30th globally in infant mortality?
No, we don't. The US counts ALL child births - even stillborns. Many countries do not count stillborns, or those who die after only a few hours. Other countries such as Japan only count those still alive after 24 hours.
And as already pointed out by Snuph we save far more premees than any other country. - AgeofMastery, on 11/04/2009, -0/+8The remake of V has more to do with the rating success of the Galactica update than anything political.
- acknotSW, on 11/04/2009, -1/+9Wait, you mean david icke was right?
- gpageau, on 11/04/2009, -0/+8It may not have much to do with today's politics, but the original series was definitely political.
The original series was inspired by Sinclair Lewis' "It Can't Happen Here," and was an allegory about the rise of possibility of fascism in the United States. It was heavily patterned after Nazi visuals, including a Swastika-like logo, SS-like uniforms. a version of the "Hitler Youth," etc.
Whether or not the new series is about Obama worship remains to be seen. - AgeofMastery, on 11/04/2009, -1/+8Wishing for the President to be killed? But the right isn't violent at all....
- Maddoktor2, on 11/04/2009, -0/+7Fat chance of that, ironhide.
- 5thdigg, on 11/04/2009, -10/+17I was creeped out from it from the very beginning, but I still voted for him. He was still the better option.
- RealmDown, on 11/04/2009, -8/+15That last quote is great. I love it.
- archiesteel, on 11/04/2009, -0/+7Obama is human. He's trying his best. You're free to disagree with some of his policies, but he's won the right to put them in place. Be fair-minded and stop blindly following right-wing ideology. The truth is in the middle.
Above all, don't do like the banninated poster and make veiled threats against the elected President of the United States. - bjornski, on 11/04/2009, -2/+9Oh wait, that's right. My bad.
It's Alex Jones. - GrodyChamp, on 11/04/2009, -0/+7The real story here is how crappy the network name change was. SciFi to "SyFy"? Weaksauce
- bigbluemachine, on 11/04/2009, -6/+12What kind of complex causes this? Seriously, I want to know.
Just what happens to a person to make their brain like this?
Were you hurt? Did someone do something bad to you as a child? Too much candy corn?
Am I the only one freaked out by the right's constant "the Messiah" calling of our American President?
It's beyond freaky that this group of people who throw all reason out the window for their blind hatred of someone only to turn around and refer to him as "the Messiah" a label that the majority of them* hold only for their respective "lord and savior". They do this as if they are mocking us/someone but if anything considering their respective faith as a whole it seems more like they are mocking their own God.
I've never heard,read, or seen anyone who actually supported Obama (or at the least weren't opposed to) EVER refer to him in a such a way, act like he was, imply he was, anything at all close to a "the Messiah".
*- Not stating that only the right/conservatives/ etc are the only ones of a Judeo /Christian based faith only the majority of they themselves are - rexxdart, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6to be honest, it was written 74 years ago...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Her ...
Inspired by the book, director–producer Kenneth Johnson wrote an adaptation titled Storm Warnings, in 1982. The script was presented to NBC, for production as a television mini-series, but the NBC executives rejected the initial version, claiming it was too "cerebral" for the average American viewer. To make the script more marketable, the American fascists were re-cast as man-eating extraterrestrials, taking the story into the realm of science fiction. The new, re-cast story was the mini-series V, which premiered on May 3, 1983. - AubreyMaturin, on 11/04/2009, -16/+22So let's just boil this down to what it really is: Wingnuts think Obama is an illegal alien...alien... ALIENS. V!
Idiots. - AgeofMastery, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6ReelHyperX, aka HyperionX, AnubisX and a host of others. Repeatedly banned for white supremacist/racist postings.
- sugarazor, on 11/04/2009, -2/+8Remember folks, these are Republicans we're talking about. They think "24" justifies the use of torture and that Batman is George W. Bush, so it's no surprise to me that they're going to use alien lizard people to bash Obama.
- ironhide, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6Many of the Visitors in the original series were killed, you might want to re-think your comparisons before shooting off your hyper-mouth.
- Charlotte_Web, on 11/03/2009, -13/+19That makes a lot of sense, actually...
- govsucks, on 11/04/2009, -9/+15
Wait, the people who want to be individually responsible, YOU think they act like the Borg. But the people who want public everything and "social contract" don't!?
You are a confused mother *****. - pushmouse, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6I haven't seen the new version of the show yet but that's exactly what the original V was about.
- jakobrowning, on 11/04/2009, -2/+8Now imagine a newspaper over analyzing a show that is holding onto the pervasive theme from the original version, hoping to exploit the peoples' love for their president in order to get more readers.
- ironhide, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6@Reel, grow up.
- inajeep, on 11/04/2009, -1/+6Hitler also used an organization like the boy scouts. Does that make them evil?
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