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- herbstblatt, on 04/21/2008, -3/+49Although nothing new, I dugg it for more people to see.
- Marijuana, on 04/21/2008, -1/+38The foundation to a functioning democracy is a reliable press. MSM simply doesn't cut it.
- craighoxton, on 04/21/2008, -0/+24Since when did Big Media ever give us a story that wasn't bought or paid for by somebody else. Which is probably the reason that many journalists cash in their "credibility" and end up as PR flacks - there's better pay to be had by lying for a living.
- spyd3rweb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
- Devilboy666, on 04/21/2008, -0/+17Don't worry guys it's only bad when China does it.
- GRANDPAMUNSTER, on 06/11/2009, -0/+17The govt. is owned by corporations, why do you think that there are more coporate lobbyists in DC than politicians. All the news you get comes from about four giant corporations, except the internet.
- kemp34, on 04/21/2008, -0/+16Unreal
- faskippy, on 04/21/2008, -1/+15"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." - David Rockefeller, Source: Trilateral Commission meeting, June, 1991
- Bushlied, on 04/21/2008, -3/+16And your an absolute fool for not knowing.
- SuperMoses, on 04/21/2008, -0/+13For more information on propaganda go to NYT columnist William Kristol's section.
- Bushlied, on 04/21/2008, -1/+9I'm gonna love the day when all news corps are burned to the ground. Not one of them are worthy of the truth.
- CarStan, on 04/21/2008, -0/+8You aren't allowed to talk bad about the government because of the terrorism.
- inactive, on 04/21/2008, -3/+11They started an endless war to make money for their buddies in the military industrial complex. Heard of Halliburton no-bid contracts? Or the Bush family making billions from the Carlyle Group?
- Waiting2awake, on 04/21/2008, -1/+9Who would have thought that a single man with the help of a handfull of others in the background could have completely decimated the USA? Osama? Nope. Khrushchev ? Nope. Hitler? Not a chance....
GW!! But whatever you guys do - don't think that they should be held accountable. Nope, that would be bad MMkay. - Waiting2awake, on 04/21/2008, -1/+8It did once, before we allowed them to allow them to amalgamate. Power being consolidated is never a good thing, and yet it was sold and bought as such. Interesting no?
- kurttrail, on 04/21/2008, -1/+8Judith Miller and her dissemination of false Iraqi WMD stories prior to the war. Do you remember that?
No? Because most of you idiots that have been fooled into thinking that all the media is liberal don't read the Times.
Anyone that actually does read the Times knows that the Times overall is to the right of Center.
Over the last 20 years, Conservatives haven't been just fighting the Liberals, but have fought to label centrists as Liberals too.
The biggest fallacy in Politics in my lifetime has been the supposed liberal bias of the media, as nothing could be further from the truth. The MSM is mostly centrist, with the exception of the like of Fox, the Moonie Times, and internet rags like World Nut Daily. - cmost, on 04/21/2008, -2/+8Umm, big fat NO DUH!!!! The media has always been in bed with the government, organized religion and pretty much any other propaganda machine from which they can milk funds for favors. Don't blame the media, or the propaganda machines...blame the sheeple for lapping it all up without question.
- discariot69, on 04/21/2008, -0/+6I'll second that "Duh!" So, if we don't have a free press, a congress that represents the actual people who vote for it and a president who has constitutional toilet paper in the Oval Office bathroom, ***** bitching about a bunch of generals who continue to lie about an illegal war in which we have engaged in torture and continue to use depleted uranium --which, in itself, is a bloody war crime? Sometimes I think I'm taking crazy pills and they're all going up my ass.
- craighoxton, on 04/21/2008, -0/+6The biggest chunks in the septic tank always float to the top
- inactive, on 04/21/2008, -1/+7Did anyone really think that simply because these people took off their military costumes they stopped being liars? OF COURSE they were lying. The very idea that Iraq was some sort of threat to the USA was always laughable. It was as absurd as the illegal attack on Grenada.
- chaosium, on 04/21/2008, -0/+5"Who would have thought that a single man with the help of a handfull of others in the background could have completely decimated the USA?"
It wasn't him, it was all the Americans who unquestioningly approve of him and his "ideas" in the name of fear, terrism, and maintaining "values". - Waiting2awake, on 04/21/2008, -1/+6What? The internet? Isn't that where the Islamo-Terrorist-pirates are? Isn't that why they are going after the Nets now? To protect America!!
- mrsammercer, on 04/21/2008, -0/+5I think you missed the point. This article isn't about politicians checking their resources. It's about the major news outlets not checking their resources and pushing the government line (almost) completely unchecked. And now, since they all did it, it isn't getting covered in the MSM.
- faskippy, on 04/21/2008, -0/+5No. I blame the perpetrators. If you have never been made aware of the crime, how can you blame the "victim"?
- inactive, on 04/21/2008, -2/+714 U.S. Soldiers and over 100 Iraqis died in Iraq last week
US news topics this week...
Aretha may lose her Detroit mansion
New juicy pics of Senator's whore
Hulk Hogan's wife files for divorce
Polar Bear cubs are doing well
Cat survives 3 weeks crossing ocean
Large men in spandex die due to steriod abuse
Runaway bride's former groom reportedly marries another woman
Buddhist dog prays for worldly desires
Camels line up for Gulf beauty contest
Soldier tosses puppy
Guy sleeping at Obama speech
Hillary's fake country accent
Pitbulls get second chance
Lindsay Lohan's drug problems
Redneck Skank still missing in Aruba
Martha Stewart, Back in Action
Duke Lacrosse lawsuit
Anna Nicole's corpse
ACLU courting Pedophiles
Missing blond, blue-eyed British baby
Shark and Alligator attacks on the rise in Florida
McDonald's courting designers for hipper uniforms - inactive, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4Duh!
- JebBlack, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4America loves propaganda.....We even think reality tv is "REALITY".lol
- itsthemechanic, on 04/21/2008, -1/+5That would be "Willkommen in Deutschland".
Btw, Germany is more free these days than you could ever hope to be. - sodade, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4We'll need to flush the toilet to clear the air around here...
- inactive, on 04/21/2008, -1/+5 The irony here is the NYT itself has been one of the greatest instruments of the CIA for putting forth their agenda.
- inajeep, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3I see some very narrow minded posts. Don't think of the media outlets at state run propaganda agencies but big complicated marketing companies who have been infiltrated and can be manipulated to put out information from 'undisclosed sources' or worse yet AP news wire items without an author and no way to verify the authenticity of the news or source. If the news orgs were used all the time they would have a lack of credibility with the 'majority' of the population so it's done with attempted subtly.
- maxpower17@digg, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4Willkommen nach Deutschland -----------------translation------------------- Welcome to Germany
- Aensland, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3Oh FFS. uuiU. You'd have to have been living under a rock not to remember that one. *****, there's even a user registered with that name.
- neozeed, on 04/21/2008, -2/+5Oh no they have been exposed yet again. Now for the best part, watch as all the "infowarriors" come to places like digg, and try to suppress the fact that the pentagon engages in information wars on AMERICA. But not to worry joe sixpack doesn't care that food inflation is thru the roof, nor does he care about the fact that all the rioting over food is controlled.
Joe out there thinks CO2 is a deadly gas (of which he breathes out) and that in two minutes it'll be time for some sporting event.
Nothing to worry about nobody is pissed, and yet the military still feels the need for disinformation. But why bother, after 2+ TRILLION dollars we still cannot vacation in either Iraq nor Afganistan. It's completely unsafe, but don't let that bother Cheney's Haliburton stock, nor his escape route to Dubai.... So he can join former American companies like Haliburton, Exxon et al. - VitriolAndAngst, on 04/21/2008, -2/+5I don't blame the "sheeple" the same people I've been arguing with for years who have called me a conspiracy theorist. People have been trained to "get along" and you never make friends at the water cooler or get promoted with comments like; "9/11 was an inside job." This is just human nature, and I am one of the few outside the "bell curve" -- the outlier. The high IQ guy that everyone resents without really knowing why.
But that has been human nature since we've been building pyramids. It has always been the same scam -- the people like us who "get it" either get recruited, marginalized or destroyed. The rest of the populace works at meaningless tasks like building pyramids to get them into heaven and to help the rulers keep them under control. Today we have accountants, trying to keep things recorded, clerks to fight health care insurance companies for the money they owe with a system that is geared to profit the totally useless health insurance companies. Today we have a war on drugs, while we have laws to prevent prescription medications being imported to compete with local, inflated prices, and meanwhile the CIA ships in drugs to pay for weapons to Iran -- or whatever black hat project they are working on now.
We have a war with Iraq and Afghanistan which has nothing to do with Bin Laden -- who allegedly did something to us on 9/11 -- almost as bad as what Bush has been doing to us since.
But the French fought the English and then the English fought the Spanish. For what? For a damn bloated king who used propaganda to tell them that that the English king would be worse than the French one.
We are still building pyramids today, because only 10% of the population or less is required to produce everything we could want. The rest is make work to keep us busy. And the wars and threats from alleged rivals who we sell technology to and let buy our infrastructure, is made to suck up more than half of our money.
Did the Pentagon, with its multi-trillion dollar budget, protect America -- or did they just use up trillions of dollars? There is no enemy, there is only a war. There is no lack of money or resources if we apply things for the greater good -- there is only a distraction of pyramid building to keep us busy. - Waiting2awake, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3That must be a westcoast thing because I haven't found that to be the case at all here in Toronto. There have been many instances where something is not reported in the big three, but it is there in the locals.
I wouldn't trade Canadian media for teh American style - not for anything. Although I admit it is becoming more corporate, it is still distinctly Canadian. - chaosium, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3"I started reading Daily Kos and Raw Story and saw how unreliable they are too."
Not perfect by any means, but they're certainly useful. - stealthc, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4We may as well assume that there is a conspiracy to institute a global totalitarian government. The powers that be are certainly behaving as if they were in on one, so whether the thing exists or not is moot. Tyranny is growing--FIGHT IT.
- Herostratus, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4BREAKING NEWS FROM MINITRU
Sisters, Brothers! Attention! Your attention, please! A newsflash has this moment arrived from the Malabar front. Our forces in South India have won a glorious victory. I am authorized to say that the action we are now reporting may well bring the war within measurable distance of its end.
In other news, homelessness is on the decrease yet again, and grain supplies are at the highest ever. Our sons and daughters returning from the battlefront are treated as heros and returned to active society. Chocolate rations have been increased from 10g to 15g a month, and the baking crisis is over!
Now for the minute of hate! - stealthc, on 04/21/2008, -3/+6Can't be less reliable than war propaganda.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4A couple days ago, I just watched a bit of an hour long program about "debt in America." It had a crawl with the title on top; "Stay Rich Forever" or something to that effect. I was really impressed that they actually talked about the real issue, which is; since the Reagan era, we've traded cheap credit and high debt in exchange for actual wage increases. You know, something that keeps up with the real inflation rate rather than the mythical one.
But then, after watching the program for a while, I noticed that some Debt Relief companies URL was scrawled all over the background, and they kept having experts from the company explain services that can help people move bad debt to "good debt." It was a ***** infommercial. An hour-long, full frontal bull ***** infommercial -- not a PR paid for "research piece" that hawks the benefits of orange juice, paid for by Orange juice companies -- but a honest-to-god infommerical with their own TV talent, interviewing industry professionals and weaving direct ads for the company into the content.
We are so ***** until people wake up to the propaganda and realize that our government and corporations are now feeding on us and going to leave us with the bill. The banks will all discover that they have no money in the vault, after we bail them out. We have a free press that is driven by drug companies, food companies, and the military. So, when those companies pay for the ads, the content reflects and promotes the sponsor.
The Financial News, also promotes the brokerage companies and "hot stock" shills that pay for the shows. Have you figured this out yet? If you are not mad or "bitter" you aren't paying attention. Maybe next year, people will notice when we start having "debtor's prisons." - Waiting2awake, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2well, well, well said. To anyone able to look at the big picture it does become slightly obvious how screwed things are.
- roflganker, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Nick Burns, your companies computer guy.
- WoollyMittens, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3It's sad that the most greedy incompetent scum has the audacity to lead. In my line of work, every incompetent programmer wants to be an "architect", so the ***** they come up with will be someone else's problem.
- chaosium, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Regardless of conspiracy theories, they're absolutely correct in that the only people doing great in this economy are military contractors.
- inactive, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2The sad part is that anyone ever thought the media in this country was any less a mouthpiece for propaganda than in any other country. Supposedly this manner of activity is illegal by federal law.... of course, we've a good long history of the fed breaking its own laws, so this is no surprise. Yet another reason I gave up television, newspapers, and radio eight years ago. Haven't looked back and doubt I ever will.
- Cryptocracy, on 08/17/2008, -1/+3like the bury brigade?
- StreetPreacher, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2And in other news, scientists today concluded that water is wet and the sky is blue...
- Bodhinature, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Don't forget Ben Stein and Bill Krystol write for the Times as well. Those two left wing wackos.
- Waiting2awake, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2The price of democracy is eternal vigilence. - That is true.
It is also true that as each successive generation we have lost more and more of our vigilence to get to point today where most people are unable to hold any political idea/philosophy for any length of time and thus just throw up their hands and turn their back on it - leaving their children in ignorance. -
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