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- AeroMerde, on 08/23/2008, -4/+138He wasn't found guilty in a court of law of anything. No one's claiming there's any evidence against him. This guy defended this country for years and this is the thanks he gets? Sickening. They had better fix this.
- mjf7419, on 08/23/2008, -12/+119This is what you get when our country is a police state.
- tankrunner1123, on 08/23/2008, -2/+52Funny this was posted an hour ago and the right who believes that they are the sole defenders of the military, have yet to speak out against this. I agree with AeroMerde, sickening how this solider was treated because he doesnt follow the quote "mainstream" religion. I remember some high ranked General condemed Pat Tilman because he wasnt a Christian during that whole fiasco. In addition is just another check on the list of screw ups this terror list has caused.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -4/+45Pat Tilman all over again
I wonder how long until he's shot from afar by enemy insurgents, oh wait, it was friendly fire, oh wait, it was from an M4A1, oh wait, it was in close proximity with perfect head shots - Sil369, on 08/25/2008, -1/+40"In a statement, the U.S. Justice Department said it will not confirm or deny that the couple's names are on a watch list for national security and privacy reasons."
Classic! - compgeek, on 08/25/2008, -5/+42wow this is just sad. this man spent 13 years in uniform defending your country and this is the thanks he gets from the government.
***** YOU BUSH ***** YOU! - ivand67, on 08/25/2008, -5/+35He should have converted to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster instead. Only THEN he'd be a hero! ;D
- RickHavoc, on 08/25/2008, -0/+27As much as people love to bash the ACLU it's scary to imagine where we'd be without them.
- SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/25/2008, -0/+26They won't..
- bitterscream, on 08/25/2008, -1/+25It doesn't mention how he got on the list. Does every convert's name get sent to some government agency? Did he check the Islam box on a census?
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -2/+24OK, yeah, this is going too far.
- drunkwally, on 08/25/2008, -0/+20His wife runs an islamic bookshop. I'm sure some fatherland security people went through the telephone directory and added all people associated with such bookshops to the list.
- dotsona, on 08/25/2008, -0/+19How is this legal?
- aresef, on 08/25/2008, -1/+20So they refuse to take them off the list they may or may not be on because they can't say if they are...and he can't fly because his name is on a list...or is it?
I just went cross-eyed. Help. - SeaFour, on 08/25/2008, -0/+18@mrtymcfly
That's because they're too busy blowing up Palestinians. - ad33lshahid, on 08/25/2008, -3/+21I remember that when I was growing up we were told by everyone in school that America is the only truly free nation in the world-- a place where if you have the determination and put in the effort, you could literally rise from rags to riches in a generation. We had heard stories of expats who emigrated to America to work and support their family back home and would write about all its splendor. I remember when my American aunt submitted a application to sponsor our move to America, and I remember having to wait 13 years before the papers were finally processed. Being invited for an interview at the embassy was seen as winning the lottery, and jubilant relatives would tell us not to ever forget about them when we go off to America to secure a better future for ourselves and our families.
It has been 10 years and I think the America I once envisioned has long vanished. I can not believe the average American would rather justify this man being on the terror watch list for being a Muslim rather than uphold the ideals of justice and equality for all. What ever happened to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? So as long as mainstream America is unaffected, this is acceptable? Although I identify with Americans, it’s becoming harder to maintain the same sense of belonging when you are alienated more and more with each passing day. I can not believe so many people actually feel that deep down inside every muslim is a terrorist or every Pakistani deserves to be on a watch-list. Have they in these 8 short years turned all of us against one another? Think about what it means for a first generation immigrant to give up his career as a doctor or engineer, leave his friends and homeland and to come here with his family to work harder than your average person, only to seek the carrot of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that Americans so keenly dangle infront of the rest of the world, and then be ridiculed for his faith, persecuted for his ethnicity and screened because of his last name. The current situation reminds me of a poem I heard in high school by Martin Niemoller:
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
Please speak out for your fellow brothers and sisters, if you do not help spread awareness to fix the broken system, we will all pay the price. - inactive, on 08/25/2008, -0/+17All I can say is, neo-mccarthyism.
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -1/+17RAmen.
- SilverBlade2k, on 08/25/2008, -0/+15The U.S Government will reach into their ass for any reason to put someone on the terror watch list. What reason will they come up with next? KNOWING a person of Islamic faith? LOOKING at anything to do with Islam? Typing 'Islam' anything into Google?
Sounds like the U.S is getting closer and closer to the way Britain is, in the movie 'V for Vendetta' - SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/25/2008, -0/+15No, not really..
- quanmadrid, on 08/25/2008, -0/+15So much for freedom of religion huh? Where's your precious constitution now?
- trafficlight, on 08/25/2008, -0/+15Those aren't even close the same things. The FBI's Most Wanted List is completely different from a terrorist watch list.
The most wanted list is for people who have ALREADY done something illegal and have a warrant issued for their arrest.
A terrorist watch list is a list of names of people who are having their freedoms taken away and their privacy invaded because of some invisible list of rules. Rules like that their name resembles an Arabic name. That they practice a religion that has Arabic roots. The books they read. The words they use. It's completely arbitrary and downright illegal. - inactive, on 08/25/2008, -0/+14"A state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the people, especially by means of a secret police force."
He and his wife have been put on a list which the government denies, which threatens his career, character and overall freedom. Sure sounds like the definition above. - pintomp3, on 08/25/2008, -1/+15"so now it's in period of Crusades, Inquisition, religious wars." seems that hasn't ended. bush said god told him to invade iraq. people like ann coulter think we should invade muslim countries and convert anyone who's left. the religious right in this country believes everyone else should have to live according to their interpretation of the bible. christianity may have come out of the dark ages, but some people are trying to push it right back.
- trafficlight, on 08/25/2008, -1/+14No that's the wrong attitude. This shouldn't have happened at all. There shouldn't even be a terrorist watch list.
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -0/+13My wife's mother's best friend started a Sikh temple. Our whole family is on the watch list.
- ad33lshahid, on 08/25/2008, -0/+13how does being a muslim relinquish your "americanism"?
- spyd3rweb, on 08/25/2008, -2/+15Do you just stop believing in one invisible super being and immediately begin believing in another or is there a transitional period where you believe both loads of ***** at the same time?
- ryrocker, on 08/25/2008, -1/+13"americanism"?
wtf does that mean? - b8man99, on 08/25/2008, -0/+12Since when have they cared?
- NuclearDruid, on 08/25/2008, -0/+12That's ***** ***** what they did to him.
- pintomp3, on 08/25/2008, -0/+12technically it's the same invisible super being, just version 3.0
- suboh, on 08/25/2008, -0/+11Being the second largest and the fastest growing religion in the world would logically imply that it is actually quite mainstream. If he was to become Jewish, it wouldn't be looked down upon and Judaism is one of the, if not the, smallest of the "mainstream" religions in the world. The powers that be, proven fascist, have spread word via an idiot from Texas that "you're with us or with them (the enemy, Islam).
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -0/+9They hate us for our freedom.
- VBDon, on 08/25/2008, -0/+9Whoever added his name to the watch list needs to lose his job!!!
- buckrogers1965, on 08/25/2008, -0/+9I hope that you are joking and are not really as stupid _and_ willfully ignorant as your post leads me to believe you are.
- petraska, on 08/25/2008, -1/+10Well, if they turn US into a Police state, then they will have -50% war weariness and +25% military production. They could invade at least twice as many countries!
- graphictruth, on 08/25/2008, -0/+9Precisely. But being on that list has real-world consequences, without any appeal or transparency. That makes it unconstitutional at the very least.
- Carl306, on 08/25/2008, -0/+8In case those of you here weren't aware... people who practice the Islamic faith are ALL terrorists, apparently.
:-( - jaymzdean, on 08/25/2008, -0/+8Why don't you go give that speech to someone like, say, McCain?
- b8man99, on 08/25/2008, -0/+7The majority of the bombings and deaths were caused by the allied forces. By the numbers, it's not the followers of Islam who are the violent ones.
- DforSpiD, on 08/25/2008, -1/+8By this point fixing this would actually be hypocritical if you think about it...
By saying an Islamic person is anything but a terrorist they're going against all of the xenophobia they have been trying so hard to spread.
Wouldn't this go against everything they believe in? - ad33lshahid, on 08/25/2008, -0/+7"one of the reasons this type of conversion puts you on a list" are you saying it is justified to be treated differently based on what you choose to believe in ? 8 years ago I would not have believed that anyone could fathom that being a rational justification for being treated differently than your fellow americans
- Coventrian, on 08/25/2008, -0/+7Bugger all religions, it seems that only the most developed of countries, the Scandinavian countries and quite a few other Euro zone countries where religion is dying out are the best places to live and I'm sure through their lack of religious fervor and zealotry the most advanced nations on the planet.
Now if the USA and the muslim world could do the rest of a favor and nuke themselves into non existence those of us with brains that don't give a fig about religion could carry on happily ever after.
The easiest way to end the majority of wars? end religion. - Samiyam, on 08/25/2008, -0/+6I thought they just had DHS people hang outside mosques and copy down license plates as people are leaving. No?
- trafficlight, on 08/25/2008, -0/+6I think that's a terrible idea. There were 20 hijackers responsible for 9/11. How many Arabic/Muslim people with visas have flown into the US in the last 20 years? Hundreds of thousands of people.
Should we punish hundreds of thousands of people for the actions of 20? - mrzeero, on 08/25/2008, -1/+7Hey once they believe in the supernatural. Whoever has the best "Heaven" wins.
- ad33lshahid, on 08/25/2008, -1/+6both you guys just ended up on the list
- oldgal, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5Explain to me what it is our troops are fighting for - to protect the nation and its ideals? Who then is going to protect us from ourselves.
- oldgal, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5they can't reveal why anyone is on the watch list because that would breach national security and PRIVACY??????? National Security is a stupid enough reason, but I haven't heard the privacy one before - whose privacy?
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