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- carpespasm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21as if it wasn't self evident by 4 year olds being barred from planes.
- netdawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12what the hell is a "prospective terrorist"? someone who might become a terrorist? someone who's thinking about terrorism?
- nblsavage, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10no terrorists use terror - it's far more effective to just say "BOO" and watch our country implode than actually risk their lives. Our government is the terrorists most effective tool.
- bshock, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11A lot of people have drunk the Kool-Aid in regards to the delusion that another major terrorist incident in the U.S. will help the Republicans politically.
*****. Let's make it clear: Republicans own terrorism. They've built their entire platform on it, they worship it, and they pray for it. Everything they want to do is supposed to be about stopping terrorism. If that fails, if another group of monsters manage to kill Americans on American soil, then the Republicans are as responsible as if they detonated the bomb (or whatever) themselves.
Republicans = terror. - Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Only if at least one of the 500 is an actual prospective terrorist, and just not random arabs which happen to be named the arab counterpart to John Smith.
- Skooma714, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9The only active terrorist organisation in United States seems to be the united states government.
Who kills the most people in the United States? Who funds itself by extortion? Who hold back the electric car? Who makes Steve Gutenberg, A STAR!? - dynamitehacker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8"Rick Kopel, the TSC's deputy director, called it 'one of the best things the government has been able to accomplish since 9/11.'"
Translation: It sucks, but not quite as much as everything else the government has done. - simpleid, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9lol, whoa, someone called dupe on themselves, that -is- a first. :-)
- simpleid, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8if you're going to make the comment, at least say why
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Yeah, terrorists will *use* 4-year-olds.
But this is about a list of names of which is supposed to contain only *suspected and known* terrorists. - vertinox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Not when those 500 people aren't terrorists.
- Corrosionx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I hope you are a false positive and get fist-ass raped by the TSA.
- nblsavage, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5My anti-terrorist rock must be working.
- mjl5629, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Arabic is written as such: لأدب العرب
So if you have a suspected terrorist named "muhommad" how do you log this into your database? When converted from Arabic to English it can be written as mohammed, muhammad, mohommed, or however else you fell like writing it because there is no correct spelling.
Here lies a fundamental problem with tracking anybody from an Arabic speaking country, they all essentially lack western world style identity. - nblsavage, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I really wouldn't be throwing stones if I were you.
- tomboy501, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7ack...I duped on this.
Please bury and digg this one: http://digg.com/politics/Terror_Suspect_List_Yields_Few_Arrests - vamos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Submitting a story like this is just asking to be put onto the terror list. You should just be quiet and do as you're told.
- anarchytv, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Maintaining such a database that is not open to public scrutiny and inspection is against the law. Particularly if it is used to discriminate against people. The existance of this database is in itself a violation of the constituition; the fact that it already exists, everyone has the right to inspect all the database entries, in particular, their own, and then it should be destroyed, or ceased to be maintained at public expense.
- LordSlashstab55, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I know who the real terrorists are...
Bush & Cheney - Spamiclese, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I can't use fast check-in/e-tickets when I'm going on an airplane. Someone with my name is flagged as a terrorist, and every time I go to the airport I have to go up to the front desk so they can call in my drivers license to make sure I'm not a terrorist. When I was traveling outside of the USA and I came back, I was held in customs for over 2 hours before they cleared me. I had to run nearly a mile of airport terminal in bare feet just to make my plane. ***** the terror database!
- Snarfy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Bruce Schneier calls it out here:
http://www.schneier.com/essay-163.html
In statistics it's called "base rate fallacy". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy - Corrosionx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I knew all along that the terrorists would've manipulated the U.S. government into removing our liberties instead of coming here to blow themselves up.
- locojones, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I particularly liked this quote from the article:
"A lot of times it's not to our advantage to make an arrest," FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said. "We don't want the subject to know what we know. It doesn't mean we're not paying attention. On the contrary, it shows that we're being very proactive in trying to identify threats.""
To me, this doesn't make any logical sense. Earlier in the article, we're told the following:
"To be included in the database, a person must be "a known or suspected terrorist such as those who finance terrorist activities, are known members of a terrorist organizations, terrorist operatives, or someone that provides material support to a terrorist or terrorist organization," said Michelle Petrovich, a spokesman for the Terrorist Screening Center. "
So people on the list allegedly have KNOWN connections to terrorism, yet the authorities are just going to let them pass the point of entry so they don't tip them off? When will they arrest them, after they've committed some act? lol
The whole thing stinks of monkeys and dartboards. - StarlessKnight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Guilty until proven innocent, eh? Better we imprison 9 innocent people than let 1 guilt person go free? The exact opposite of how the American judicial system was designed, but there's no problem with that is there?
- SimonGray, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3:O
- Acewrap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3*****, I DO read all the news. I also have something called "critical thinking skills," meaning I don't eat up whatever propaganda the administration vomits up.
Unlike you. - CaptainLando, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3First I think the title should be "Terrorist" database rather than "Terror", calling it terror database led me to infer that it had to do with acts of terrorism rather than people.
I believe the theory is good, to have a database of people. However the gov't should probably go back to the theory and rebuild if it is this ineffective. - zerohex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It just goes to show that the government just doesn't have a clue. And now they're trying to get landlords to enforce their agenda. Case in point: http://www.landlord-success.com/city-government/landlords-as-government-enforcers
- schroeder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Actually, his comment translates:
You don't care if hundreds of people are arrested and violated for no reason? I hope next time you are in the group of those held and violated because that's the only way you're going to understand how horrible this is. - Joab, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The header you choose is better
- Acewrap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2How many buses have blown up in the US, ever? Your point is dead.
- dupswapdrop, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Who let the bridges fall, who let the planes crash into buildings? Remember Nixon remember Bush and remember this never vote for Republicans!
- Incognito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"U.S. Terror Database 'Excessive, Inaccurate, and Ineffective''
as a note you could replace the above with
"U.S. Government 'Excessive, Inaccurate, and Ineffective''
Same thing - zerohex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2EXACTLY!! Much agreed!
- Leomarth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2But we must let our fear of terrorists behind every bush drive us damnit! We need these programs because we fear, and we should fear! If you don't have a proper sense of fear, listen to the words of our very valued and honorable President George W. Bush. Watch the tapes of 9/11 about six million times, and if you aren't brainwas... err, convinced of the fear you should have, YOU'RE UNAMERICAN! GET OUT!
- bemenaker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2DUH!!!!!!!
sorry biggest caps i have - schroeder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"...turned back or handed over to authorities 550 people... FBI officials indicated that the number of arrests was small."
So you think it's just fine to grab a huge group of people who could possibly know or be related to something remotely terrorist? What if it were you who called someone you didn't know was being watched by the FBI then were grabbed and kept for days without trial or accusation, just interrogation. Imagine if this happened on your way to see a dying loved one or on a vacation you saved up all your time and money to go on? The point is that there is no reason that the FBI and other agencies can't be more thorough and specific when perusing a lead instead of saying, "who knows, he may be a terrorist.. lock them all up until we're sure". I have an idea, how about the FBI and CIA do their ***** job like they have since their inception? - diggtomanjeri, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Eventually there will be enough false positives they'll be able to rule 99.999% of the people in America out and THEN the database will be spectacularly accurate!
- StarlessKnight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Couldn't they just blame it on the "Liberals" for keeping them from doing "all that was necessary" and/or "emboldening the terrorists?"
- carpespasm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2ohh come on, how many guys named Muhammad can there be?
- SimonGray, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That is a very good point. Same issues exist with users of any different character system (pretty much anyone whose language wasn't stigmatised by colonialism or replaced with a European one).
- palehorse864, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1When you guys read this headline for the first time, did any of you hear Jackie Chiles' voice like I did?
- Mejogid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You seem to be forgetting the RIAA...
- patsfan456, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1'Excessive, Inaccurate, and Ineffective'
Holy crap, you guys have no sense of sarcasm. - Frnnkdlxx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What Would Alex Jones Do?
- schroeder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Actually, those who always vote for the left or the right are the "sheep". Those in the middle are free thinking individuals who vote for those they feel best represent them. They don't readily buy in to whatever their politician sells them. Each side has trouble getting those in the middle because they are the ones they need to convince, party members just follow.
I don't see how Iraq was ever good for the country. Now there is a hot bed for terrorism that Saddam had in check. There hare thousands dead who would be alive. There is a destroyed country that has to be rebuilt. There is the highest debt ever to face the American People that is owed to China. And now there is rumor of war on Iran. There is no money or soldiers for 2 wars. All the while Osama/Afganistan is ignored and those in power and their contractor ties (haliburton) are ripping off Americans increasing the debt even greater and making them richer. - HaywoodGiablomi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0
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I feel the war in Iraq is best for the country, and the world actually
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Fine. Enlist and get busy fighting it. - Rahodeb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Or, he's saying that the government "accomplished" 9/11? It sounds like, "This terror database is great, but not as great as 9/11".
/kidding - Zarchon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0And I wouldn't be telling people not to throw stones if I were you.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1How can you have security with open borders?
United States Government are terrorists, war criminals, and horrific liars.
9-11 was an inside job! What happened to building 7?
Depleted uranium is a weapon of mass destruction! -
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